# That's it I am done with movies

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [July 28, 2010, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-i-am-done-with-movies/548273 "2010-07-28T05:26:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2010, 9:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-i-am-done-with-movies/548273/21 "2010-07-28T09:48:35Z")

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The OP makes no sense. How can anything be more crappy than a Hanna-Barbera cartoon? Those things were an affront to animation.

I’ve been watching a lot of cartoons lately with my 5-year-old, and it seems pretty clear to me. American cartoons made before 1957 (WB, MGM and Disney): terrific. American cartoons made after 1990 or so: some are pretty good. American cartoons made bewteen 1957 and 1980 (mostly Hanna-Barbera): utter garbage.\* Watching the deterioration of Tom & Jerry in particular is depressing; it’s like seeing a beloved family member disappear into Alzheimer’s.

- No American cartoons were made between 1980 and 1990, only half-hour toy commercials.

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2010, 10:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-i-am-done-with-movies/548273/22 "2010-07-28T10:17:10Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> - No American cartoons were made between 1980 and 1990, only half-hour toy commercials.

Though this is primarily true, I personally think _the Gummi Bears_ was noteworthy.

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**Author:** ![pancakes3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ba9def/32.png) [@pancakes3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pancakes3)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2010, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-i-am-done-with-movies/548273/23 "2010-07-28T12:05:31Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> - No American cartoons were made between 1980 and 1990, only half-hour toy commercials.

i’d take 30 min of pro-army, toyhawking, brainwashing over grape ape, huckleberry hound, etc.

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2010, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-i-am-done-with-movies/548273/24 "2010-07-28T12:12:37Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> The OP makes no sense. How can anything be more crappy than a Hanna-Barbera cartoon? Those things were an affront to animation.

This. Also, how could a movie make _Garfield_ any more of an empty, commercialized sell-out than it always was?

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**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2010, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-i-am-done-with-movies/548273/25 "2010-07-28T12:26:41Z")

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> [@Superhal](#):
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> If they try to re-release every film made since 1938 or so in 3-D, I’m going to slit my wrists.

It’ll be a fad that people end up hating, just like colourisation. I’m pretty sure, in this case, ignoring it will make it go away.

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**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2010, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-i-am-done-with-movies/548273/26 "2010-07-28T13:03:14Z")

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Why the hell are they hiding their crotches? It isn’t as if they’ve **got** anything…

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**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2010, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-i-am-done-with-movies/548273/27 "2010-07-28T13:33:36Z")

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> [@GuanoLad](#):
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> > [@Superhal](#):
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> > If they try to re-release every film made since 1938 or so in 3-D, I’m going to slit my wrists.
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> Don’t be too quick to say such things. They may come back to haunt you.
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> I think that poster looks all wrong - the shadows look funny, and the characters are too cartoony in appearance to be in what is otherwise a live action film.
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> Ugh. Not impressed.

The light source is all over the place. Look at the shadow casted off Yogi’s nose. Now look at the shadow coming off the bottom right pic-i-nic basket. It’s at a completely different angle. Meanwhile Yogi’s body looks like it’s being lit from above whereas his knee is being lit from the righthand side. Meanwhile Boo-Boo’s body seems to be lit from the left.

So, yeah. Apparently they’re on the planet of Asimov’s Nightfall.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2010, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-i-am-done-with-movies/548273/28 "2010-07-28T13:42:48Z")

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> [@PSXer](#):
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> RIP movies (1888-2010)

Hang on, PSXer. This movie is coming out in 2010. For you, that’s 30 years away. You have plenty of time to lament the death of the talkies.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2010, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-i-am-done-with-movies/548273/29 "2010-07-28T14:14:02Z")

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Dude, it’s Yogi Bear **in 3D!** This is the kind of movie that’s a perfect opportunity for humongous tab of acid!

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**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2010, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-i-am-done-with-movies/548273/30 "2010-07-28T14:43:19Z")

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Eh, it sounds like it’s made for kids, and kids will probably enjoy it.  
What’s the big deal? It’s not like nobody’s ever made an unoriginal, uninspired movie before this.

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**Author:** ![pbbth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f9ae1b/32.png) [@pbbth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pbbth)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2010, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-i-am-done-with-movies/548273/31 "2010-07-28T15:19:52Z")

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Yogi Bear was popular when I was a kid. People my age are having kids now and adding a bit of nostalgia makes it more likely that we will take our kids to see that movie over something we’ve never heard of before. If Yogi bothers you I have to warn you to avoid movie previews until after the 3D Smurfs movie comes out in a couple of months. We freaking loved the Smurfs as little kids so of course they are making a movie with them.

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**Author:** ![Bytegeist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9dc877/32.png) [@Bytegeist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bytegeist)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2010, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-i-am-done-with-movies/548273/32 "2010-07-28T15:24:49Z")

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> [@Enderw24](#):
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> The light source is all over the place. … Apparently they’re on the planet of Asimov’s Nightfall.

Now **that’s** a movie I’d watch: the inhabitants of Jellystone Park degenerating into madness, rampaging, setting everything on fire — anything to fend off the awful, awful darkness in the only night they have ever known.

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**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2010, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-i-am-done-with-movies/548273/33 "2010-07-28T15:29:37Z")

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“They’ve ruined my childhoooooooood!” It’s a cartoon, dude. Grow up.

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**Author:** ![obfusciatrist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4af34b/32.png) [@obfusciatrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obfusciatrist)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2010, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-i-am-done-with-movies/548273/34 "2010-07-28T15:36:57Z")

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> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#):
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> How did more than ZERO of those get made?

Because someone rightly said “hey, we can make this for maybe $50 million and then make $125 million at the box office before we even get to DVD”? So the first one got made.

Then someone rightly said “hey, we can do it again and make anorther $140 million.” So the second one got made.

> [@PSXer](#):
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> I don’t want to live in a world in which kids only know Garfield from those movies and they think Johnny Depp is Willy Wonka

Yes, better that they only know Garfield from a lame ass comic strip and motivational classroom posters.  
The key to remember is that most of the kids pop culture stuff we consumed was crap as well and we were idiots for liking it. And not wanting to admit we were idiots we now wrap it up in a shroud of nostalgia and lament how all the kids stuff today is crap and kids are idiots for liking it.

I suspect a Yogi Bear movie will be awful, but it might not be. I doubt the people behind it are intentionally setting out to create a bad movie and while the odds are against them, more power to them if they succeed in making something good.

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**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2010, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-i-am-done-with-movies/548273/35 "2010-07-28T15:42:18Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> The OP makes no sense. How can anything be more crappy than a Hanna-Barbera cartoon? Those things were an affront to animation.
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> I’ve been watching a lot of cartoons lately with my 5-year-old, and it seems pretty clear to me. American cartoons made before 1957 (WB, MGM and Disney): terrific. American cartoons made after 1990 or so: some are pretty good. American cartoons made bewteen 1957 and 1980 (mostly Hanna-Barbera): utter garbage.\* Watching the deterioration of Tom & Jerry in particular is depressing; it’s like seeing a beloved family member disappear into Alzheimer’s.

The really sad part is that Hanna and Barbera were actually responsible for most of [the really great Tom and Jerry cartoons before the 1950s](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5EPfpuN8W0). Declining budgets and TV forced them to simplify the drawings and backgrounds, use limited walk cycles and Xerox the living shit out of stuff.

I feel so sorry for them. They weren’t hacks by nature, they were genuine artists forced to become hacks, like how the over-praised Chuck Jones turned out some equally awful animation in the 1960s.

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**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2010, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-i-am-done-with-movies/548273/36 "2010-07-28T16:12:57Z")

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Thing is, what’s the market for this movie? Kids today don’t know who the fuck Yogi Bear is, and they’re lucky not to.

The real market is parents who watched Yogi Bear when they were kids, buying the DVD for their kids. Except, of course, Yogi Bear sucked at the time, and this movie will suck extra hard. But it’s got an premarketed character. A craptastic movie about some random newly invented animated muskrat would have to fight hard to even get on the radar screen. A craptastic movie featuring some half-forgotten crappy cartoon character from the 60s/70s at least has some name recognition, plus you can piggyback sales of the craptastic back catalog onto the marketing for the new movie.

It’s not like there was going to be a decent animated muskrat movie, but instead we got this pile of crap. The animated muskrat movie would have been crap too.

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2010, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-i-am-done-with-movies/548273/37 "2010-07-28T16:13:30Z")

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First it was the Flintstones, then Garfield, then Alvin and the Chipmunks, then Speedracer and now there is Smurfs and Yogi Bear so that means it can’t be too much longer before we get a Snorks movie and that makes me happy.

I love all these movies.

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**Author:** ![obfusciatrist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4af34b/32.png) [@obfusciatrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obfusciatrist)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2010, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-i-am-done-with-movies/548273/38 "2010-07-28T16:24:14Z")

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> [@Tahssa](#):
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> First it was the Flintstones, then Garfield, then Alvin and the Chipmunks…

Don’t forget He-Man (Masters of the Universe), Transformers (Transformers: The Movie), and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles leading the way for crappy cartoon-to-movie adaptations. And each of them I loved since I was still an idiot kid when they came out.

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**Author:** ![filling\_pages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b9bd4f/32.png) [@filling\_pages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filling_pages)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2010, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-i-am-done-with-movies/548273/39 "2010-07-28T16:25:08Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> - No American cartoons were made between 1980 and 1990, only half-hour toy commercials.

Although I largely agree with you, the Ghostbusters cartoon was actually pretty awesome, as I recall, and had some pretty scary bits.

That being said, Yogi sucked then and probably sucks now. But why should I care?

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**Author:** ![PSXer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/48db29/32.png) [@PSXer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PSXer)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2010, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-i-am-done-with-movies/548273/40 "2010-07-28T16:28:34Z")

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At least the Flintstones was live action and 2-d. Why do we have to have every cartoon movie these days CGI with live action. Why can’t we have an entire animated Yogi Bear movie. Or live action with real bears.

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