# That's It! PETA Has Finally Gone Bonkers! **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [November 17, 2004, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-peta-has-finally-gone-bonkers/275352 "2004-11-17T22:01:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2004, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-peta-has-finally-gone-bonkers/275352/21 "2004-11-17T23:23:08Z")
> [@harmless](#): > > But…but… : lip trembles : Kurt Cobain said it was ok! Nonono…he was saying it was ok to eat _lead_. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2004, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-peta-has-finally-gone-bonkers/275352/22 "2004-11-17T23:29:56Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > I’m looking at your link and seeing they have animals up for adoption and are advocating people adopt from animal shelters. What am I missing? Their president has been quoted as saying, “It is time we demand an end to the misguided and abusive concept of animal ownership. The first step on this long, but just, road would be ending the concept of pet ownership.” ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2004, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-peta-has-finally-gone-bonkers/275352/23 "2004-11-17T23:32:35Z")
I can’t believe there are still people out there who didn’t know PETA is nuts. Or maybe **ralph124c** was the last one and now everybody knows. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2004, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-peta-has-finally-gone-bonkers/275352/24 "2004-11-17T23:36:04Z")
> [@](#): > > [http://felinerescue.net/OwnervsGuardian.htm](http://felinerescue.net/OwnervsGuardian.htm) (bolding mine) > Veterinarian Elliot Katz, president of In Defense of Animals declared, “Now is the time to get rid of the concept of pet ownership.” > > Katz said changing the language is an important part of a “revolution” that will change the way people see their cats, dogs, and other pets. Katz considers pet “ownership” to be an offensive term and **likens his cause to black slavery and the suffrage movement** that gave American women the right to vote and own property. Riiight. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2004, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-peta-has-finally-gone-bonkers/275352/25 "2004-11-17T23:41:00Z")
> [@Lute Skywatcher](#): > > Their president has been quoted as saying, “It is time we demand an end to the misguided and abusive concept of animal ownership. The first step on this long, but just, road would be ending the concept of pet ownership.” Katz doesn’t appear to want to get rid of animals as companions. He appears to want to get rid of the idea that people “own” animals. That may be radical, but it isn’t as radical as the way I initially read your comment (which was that IDA wanted to do away with the concept of animals as companions). ---
**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2004, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-peta-has-finally-gone-bonkers/275352/26 "2004-11-17T23:42:21Z")
Had my own Fallujah in my garage last weekend: Me: 9 Mice: 0 Tell the Cultists to come get 'em. ---
**Author:** ![Necro\_Romancer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/50afbb/32.png) [@Necro\_Romancer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Necro_Romancer)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2004, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-peta-has-finally-gone-bonkers/275352/27 "2004-11-17T23:50:08Z")
All these summers…a holocaust in my net. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2004, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-peta-has-finally-gone-bonkers/275352/28 "2004-11-17T23:52:44Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > Katz doesn’t appear to want to get rid of animals as companions. He appears to want to get rid of the idea that people “own” animals. I’ve been researching Dr. Katz and found that this “guardian” thing is his first step in elevating pets’ legal status to that of children. [cite](http://www.hsus2.org/sheltering/magazine/currentissue/nov_dec00/frontlines_boulder.html) ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2004, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-peta-has-finally-gone-bonkers/275352/29 "2004-11-18T01:21:50Z")
I don’t know. Around here, the cats are the overlords and I am merely their subject and the bringer of food. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2004, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-peta-has-finally-gone-bonkers/275352/30 "2004-11-18T03:03:23Z")
I for one welcome our new cat overlords. ---
**Author:** ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2004, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-peta-has-finally-gone-bonkers/275352/31 "2004-11-18T03:03:40Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > I don’t know. Around here, the cats are the overlords and I am merely their subject and the bringer of food. 🙂 God save us if they develope opposable thumbs :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Unregistered\_Bull](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3da27b/32.png) [@Unregistered\_Bull](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unregistered_Bull)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2004, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-peta-has-finally-gone-bonkers/275352/32 "2004-11-18T04:42:58Z")
PETA can only get more “bonkers.” They’ve always been “bonkers.” ---
**Author:** ![PetW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@PetW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PetW)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2004, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-peta-has-finally-gone-bonkers/275352/33 "2004-11-18T04:51:55Z")
> [@aruvqan](#): > > God save us if they develope opposable thumbs :eek: Then they can lift the toilet seats, Focker. ---
**Author:** ![danceswithcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9e8a1a/32.png) [@danceswithcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/danceswithcats)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2004, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-peta-has-finally-gone-bonkers/275352/34 "2004-11-18T04:54:16Z")
Why does no one care about the poor diatoms? :smack: ---
**Author:** ![wheelie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b4bc9f/32.png) [@wheelie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wheelie)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2004, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-peta-has-finally-gone-bonkers/275352/35 "2004-11-18T05:07:06Z")
Grrr… bring me a bowl of raw meat, no, screw that,\* bring me a live cow; I’ll carve off what I want, and ride the rest home…\* ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2004, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-peta-has-finally-gone-bonkers/275352/36 "2004-11-18T05:15:07Z")
My favorite is the fact that one of the leaders of PETA is a diabetic who requires regular insulin shots (which requires sheep die). When she was questioned about this, she explained that while she was against animal sacrifice in general as a matter of principle, it was ethically okay for her personally because she was dedicating her life to saving other animals. ---
**Author:** ![Amazon\_Floozy\_Goddess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/779978/32.png) [@Amazon\_Floozy\_Goddess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amazon_Floozy_Goddess)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2004, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-peta-has-finally-gone-bonkers/275352/37 "2004-11-18T06:25:43Z")
I wonder if it’s so much nuttiness as it is assholery. They oppose guide dogs for the blind and deaf, claiming these animals are nothing more than slaves, and they want to put a stop to Inuit hunting whales and seals, crying cruelty on them. They don’t seem to care that Inuit have been doing this for thousands of years to survive, and many still hunt today to support their families. The way PETA is coming down on them you’d think arctic peoples were taking animals just for fur and making little Gucci handbags to show off on the runway. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2004, 10:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-peta-has-finally-gone-bonkers/275352/38 "2004-11-18T10:40:25Z")
An old Goodies {anyone remember them?} joke: Tim Brooke-Taylor, protesting for animal rights, holds up a placard saying “Kindness Costs Nothing”. Graeme Garden {the mad scientist} ripostes with a placard saying “Cruelty Is More Fun”. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2004, 11:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-peta-has-finally-gone-bonkers/275352/39 "2004-11-18T11:03:13Z")
> [@Little Nemo](#): > > My favorite is the fact that one of the leaders of PETA is a diabetic who requires regular insulin shots (which requires sheep die). Not anymore - insulin today is produced by genetic engineering. Rather than being refined sheep or pig insulin it’s actually _human_ insulin (it’s even called 'humalin") In many ways a superior product, much less likely to cause allergic reactions or spread disease through inadvertant contamination. Of course, for the better part of a century it DID require a sheep a day (on average) to keep a diabetic alive, and of course it’s a product of animal experimentation and exploitation. Not to mention the “poor” little bugs with twisted genes churning out protein “alien” to them all merely to serve mankind. My God, won’t someone think of the bacteria? It makes the baby Jesus cry… ---
**Author:** ![Futile\_Gesture](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f05b48/32.png) [@Futile\_Gesture](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Futile_Gesture)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2004, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-peta-has-finally-gone-bonkers/275352/40 "2004-11-18T11:06:31Z")
> [@Lute Skywatcher](#): > > I think **ralph** ’s point is that PETA is pointing out the obvious. Well it doesn’t seem so obvious to people who call themselves vegetarian because they “only eat fish”. Perhaps a lot of people do need reminded that fish are animals too. Frankly, I can’t see anything bonkers in an animal rights organisation having a problem with fishing. And why isn’t this in the Pit? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-peta-has-finally-gone-bonkers/275352.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-peta-has-finally-gone-bonkers/275352.md?page=3)