# That's it. Won't watch Glee anymore. **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [September 29, 2013, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-wont-watch-glee-anymore/669962 "2013-09-29T23:20:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Tequila\_Party](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a6a055/32.png) [@Tequila\_Party](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tequila_Party)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2013, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-wont-watch-glee-anymore/669962/181 "2013-10-02T04:10:50Z")
Ask your one gay friend. Maybe he can help you clear up your confusion. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2013, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-wont-watch-glee-anymore/669962/182 "2013-10-02T04:37:19Z")
> [@the\_diego](#): > > But they’re scared to death of expressing their feelings towards minorities within their constituency. No, they’re usually not scared to death of expressing their feelings. They’re usually exploring the nuances of social interactions or building weird hypotheticals that could justify behavior that might ordinarily be called prejudiced. It’s a weird hobby, but I think you’ve misunderstood it. You’ve also misunderstood the word constituency. > [@](#): > > Confused. Yes, your perspective on this issue is very confused. ---
**Author:** ![the\_diego](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7bcc69/32.png) [@the\_diego](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/the_diego)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2013, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-wont-watch-glee-anymore/669962/183 "2013-10-02T04:51:50Z")
My OP and the spirit behind it is as clear as tequila. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2013, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-wont-watch-glee-anymore/669962/184 "2013-10-02T04:57:17Z")
After it’s come back as vomit. ---
**Author:** ![the\_diego](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7bcc69/32.png) [@the\_diego](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/the_diego)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2013, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-wont-watch-glee-anymore/669962/185 "2013-10-02T04:59:53Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > No, they’re usually not scared to death of expressing their feelings. They’re usually exploring the nuances of social interactions or building weird hypotheticals that could justify behavior that might ordinarily be called prejudiced. It’s a weird hobby, but I think you’ve misunderstood it. And all this is saying is they’re more guarded among themselves, and how their own kind will feel and respond. Mistakes with others take a back seat but will be rectified in time. After all, no one’s perfect. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2013, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-wont-watch-glee-anymore/669962/186 "2013-10-02T05:03:01Z")
I don’t know what you’re trying to say. Less tequila, maybe? ---
**Author:** ![the\_diego](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7bcc69/32.png) [@the\_diego](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/the_diego)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2013, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-wont-watch-glee-anymore/669962/187 "2013-10-02T05:05:55Z")
I’m in a different part of the world. Bedtime over there? ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2013, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-wont-watch-glee-anymore/669962/188 "2013-10-02T05:07:55Z")
Or you could just explain what you’re talking about. ---
**Author:** ![Sudden\_Kestrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@Sudden\_Kestrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sudden_Kestrel)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2013, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-wont-watch-glee-anymore/669962/189 "2013-10-02T05:49:30Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > Or you could just explain what you’re talking about. I’m not sure he _knows_ what he’s talking about. I’m wondering if he isn’t trying to deflect the reaction to his OP by throwing a little word salad at it. ---
**Author:** ![the\_diego](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7bcc69/32.png) [@the\_diego](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/the_diego)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2013, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-wont-watch-glee-anymore/669962/190 "2013-10-02T05:58:38Z")
> [@Sudden\_Kestrel](#): > > I’m not sure he _knows_ what he’s talking about. I’m wondering if he isn’t trying to deflect the reaction to his OP by throwing a little word salad at it. Try asking. Yes some word salad, but for another reason. The Goober seems able to articulate basic points better than me, so I don’t really need to offer more explanations. I just can’t get why you guys are upset at being hated. I thought that’s one way to get noticed. ---
**Author:** ![Sudden\_Kestrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@Sudden\_Kestrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sudden_Kestrel)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2013, 7:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-wont-watch-glee-anymore/669962/191 "2013-10-02T07:53:18Z")
> [@the\_diego](#): > > Try asking. Yes some word salad, but for another reason. The Goober seems able to articulate basic points better than me, so I don’t really need to offer more explanations. I just can’t get why you guys are upset at being hated. I thought that’s one way to get noticed. Try asking what? What the hell you’re talking about? Multiple people have asked that and gotten the same stream-of-unconsciousness gibberish from you. You don’t seem to be able to defend your position in any coherent way, so you’re playing the fool instead. Funnier people than you have resorted to that tactic and failed. And BTW, who the hell are you calling a guy? :mad: ---
**Author:** ![the\_diego](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7bcc69/32.png) [@the\_diego](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/the_diego)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2013, 8:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-wont-watch-glee-anymore/669962/192 "2013-10-02T08:54:26Z")
Putang-ina, you said you’re “not sure” and at the same time “wondering.” Was my answer that far off? Mind your own gibberish. ---
**Author:** ![Sudden\_Kestrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@Sudden\_Kestrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sudden_Kestrel)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2013, 10:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-wont-watch-glee-anymore/669962/193 "2013-10-02T10:24:33Z")
Why expect boots when the milk goes bad, Haskell? You’ve only bought yourself a goalkeeper, if you keep your vole in your pocket. Hell, even he might be a kisser, you might say. Know what I mean, fingers? ---
**Author:** ![the\_diego](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7bcc69/32.png) [@the\_diego](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/the_diego)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2013, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-wont-watch-glee-anymore/669962/194 "2013-10-02T10:28:24Z")
Too many posts can be read as unmanly. Logging off for now. ---
**Author:** ![Uber\_the\_Goober](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/58956e/32.png) [@Uber\_the\_Goober](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uber_the_Goober)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2013, 11:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-wont-watch-glee-anymore/669962/195 "2013-10-02T11:37:35Z")
> [@Sudden\_Kestrel](#): > > Why expect boots when the milk goes bad, Haskell? You’ve only bought yourself a goalkeeper, if you keep your vole in your pocket. Hell, even he might be a kisser, you might say. Know what I mean, fingers? Is this the insanity plea? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Sudden\_Kestrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@Sudden\_Kestrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sudden_Kestrel)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2013, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-wont-watch-glee-anymore/669962/196 "2013-10-02T12:30:59Z")
> [@Uber\_the\_Goober](#): > > Is this the insanity plea? > > 😃 Just trying to speak the guy’s language, y’know–or at least figure out what it is. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2013, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-wont-watch-glee-anymore/669962/197 "2013-10-02T12:46:12Z")
> [@Sudden\_Kestrel](#): > > Why expect boots when the milk goes bad, Haskell? Obviously, because the bottles were the problem. The milkman’s gotta put the good milk somewhere, and you know he’s always got a bunch of boots lying around. And quite calling me “Haskell”! > [@](#): > > You’ve only bought yourself a goalkeeper, if you keep your vole in your pocket. If I wanted him to be more than a goalkeeper, I’d give him the damn vole. I know his owl is hungry. But all I want is a goalkeeper. Capisce? ---
**Author:** ![Tequila\_Party](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a6a055/32.png) [@Tequila\_Party](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tequila_Party)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2013, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-wont-watch-glee-anymore/669962/198 "2013-10-02T13:42:12Z")
> [@the\_diego](#): > > Too many posts can be read as unmanly. Logging off for now. Aw. I’m sure your one gay friend TM probably finds you very manly. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2013, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-wont-watch-glee-anymore/669962/199 "2013-10-02T14:14:08Z")
> [@Uber\_the\_Goober](#): > > Yeah, but this all started because I said I don’t like some of the things people DO. The people themselves aren’t worthy of ire simply for their actions, but I don’t have to like their actions. > > Not liking someone because they are Korean is wrong. Same with not liking them because they’re gay. When their actions are the result of who they are, it’s exactly the same thing. That’s like saying you respect rapists but are against rape. Being a gay man means you are going to kiss another man. And, the thing is, you had to go just across the line. If you’d just stuck with not particularly liking to watch it, I’d be okay with it. Everyone has things that they are irrationally grossed out by. But you went the step further and say that you don’t like the fact that gay men kiss. And, I’m sorry, that’s pretty much saying you don’t like the fact that gay men exist. There’s no “hate the sin, love the sinner” analog here. Gay men are going to kiss each other; if you don’t like one, you don’t like the other. And not liking someone because of their sexual orientation is a form of bigotry, and is wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Uber\_the\_Goober](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/58956e/32.png) [@Uber\_the\_Goober](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uber_the_Goober)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2013, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-wont-watch-glee-anymore/669962/200 "2013-10-02T15:23:47Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > When their actions are the result of who they are, it’s exactly the same thing. **That’s like saying you respect rapists but are against rape.** Being a gay man means you are going to kiss another man. > > And, the thing is, you had to go just across the line. If you’d just stuck with not particularly liking to watch it, I’d be okay with it. Everyone has things that they are irrationally grossed out by. But you went the step further and say that you don’t like the fact that gay men kiss. > > And, I’m sorry, that’s pretty much saying you don’t like the fact that gay men exist. There’s no “hate the sin, love the sinner” analog here. Gay men are going to kiss each other; if you don’t like one, you don’t like the other. > > And not liking someone because of their sexual orientation is a form of bigotry, and is wrong. Bolding mine. No it isn’t. Would you like me to provide you with a fresh bundle of straw for your next argument? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-wont-watch-glee-anymore/669962.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-wont-watch-glee-anymore/669962.md?page=11)