# That's it. Won't watch Glee anymore. **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [September 29, 2013, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-wont-watch-glee-anymore/669962 "2013-09-29T23:20:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Uber\_the\_Goober](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/58956e/32.png) [@Uber\_the\_Goober](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uber_the_Goober)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2013, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-wont-watch-glee-anymore/669962/121 "2013-10-01T14:30:25Z")
> [@Dr.Drake](#): > > If “gay” is in the same area in your head as “scab-eaters”, then you are probably irredeemable. > > You’ve tried replacing the word “gay” with other groups you find repulsive. Try replacing the word “gay” with “athlete” or “blond” and see how it sounds to you. > > I’m sorry, but “you’re disgusting, and I’ll tolerate you as long as I don’t have to think about you” is not good enough. > > And morbidly obese people in bathing suits? Fat people are allowed to go to the beach. Ugly people are allowed to have relationships. Forget gays for a second: do you _ **really** _ think that attractive people should have more privileges than ugly people? Have you thought that attitude through? > > The whole point of being a thinking, reasoning mammal is that sometimes you need to be ruled by your head, not your gut reaction. > > TL,DR: Get over it. Are you being intentionally obtuse? It’s got NOTHING to do with rights, or privileges. I simply will not accept being labelled as “disrespectful” or “bigoted” because I don’t like something. I’ve said, in this thread and elsewhere in the real world, that “live and let live” is how I roll, but some of the things going on in this world repulse me, and I choose to not watch them, participate in them, even distance myself from them. And that’s perfectly fine. In both the world I live in, and yours. That’s what \*you \*need to “get over”. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2013, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-wont-watch-glee-anymore/669962/122 "2013-10-01T14:33:32Z")
> [@Uber\_the\_Goober](#): > > I simply will not accept being labelled as “disrespectful” or “bigoted” because I don’t like something. Too bad. Your choices were to keep quiet about it and be left alone or make a stink and have your views rejected. Don’t blame us because we don’t give you the leeway you require to be offensive. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2013, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-wont-watch-glee-anymore/669962/123 "2013-10-01T14:33:46Z")
> [@Uber\_the\_Goober](#): > > It’s got NOTHING to do with rights, or privileges. If you are saying that attractive people may wear bathing suits in public but fat people shouldn’t, that’s saying one group has privileges the other doesn’t. If you are saying attractive couples can kiss in public, but ugly people shouldn’t, that’s about privileges. If you’re saying one set should be able to do something, and another group shouldn’t, that’s about privileges. ---
**Author:** ![Uber\_the\_Goober](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/58956e/32.png) [@Uber\_the\_Goober](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uber_the_Goober)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2013, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-wont-watch-glee-anymore/669962/124 "2013-10-01T14:44:23Z")
> [@Dr.Drake](#): > > If you are saying that attractive people may wear bathing suits in public but fat people shouldn’t, that’s saying one group has privileges the other doesn’t. > > If you are saying attractive couples can kiss in public, but ugly people shouldn’t, that’s about privileges. > > If you’re saying one set should be able to do something, and another group shouldn’t, that’s about privileges. Again, I’m not saying they should or shouldn’t do anything. I’m just saying I don’t like to see it. What I like, at least the last time I checked, does not affect public policy. Do your opinions affect public policies? ---
**Author:** ![Uber\_the\_Goober](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/58956e/32.png) [@Uber\_the\_Goober](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uber_the_Goober)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2013, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-wont-watch-glee-anymore/669962/125 "2013-10-01T14:53:33Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > Too bad. Your choices were to keep quiet about it and be left alone or make a stink and have your views rejected. Don’t blame us because we don’t give you the leeway you require to be offensive. If you think I’m being offensive because I express the opinion that two grown men kissing is objectionable, then where’s the respect for my position? I’m not the one who is calling the people disgusting, or saying their rights should be less. I simply do not enjoy (to the point of being repulsed) watching them make out, or screw, or run around naked, or eat their scabs, or put on a bikini despite weighing 500lbs. And ain’t nobody gonna tell me that I’m the one who’s wrong for that. ---
**Author:** ![Tequila\_Party](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a6a055/32.png) [@Tequila\_Party](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tequila_Party)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2013, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-wont-watch-glee-anymore/669962/126 "2013-10-01T15:00:17Z")
> [@Uber\_the\_Goober](#): > > Try this on for size - I, as an individual, am not responsible for the subconscious physiological reactions that are AUTOMATIC when I am exposed to gay people kissing/fucking. Actually, you are. I’m not in agreement with the sentiment you’re railing against, however, I do think you are responsible for your reactions to things. For example, I used to feel just as you do. Repulsed by the mere sight of gay affection. But because I was mature enough to realize the shortcoming was my own, I actively worked to change that. It’s kind of like how little kids are taught not to blanch and stare at the sight of someone different than them. Like a person with Down Syndrome or justifiable histrionics at a funeral. You just learn that there’s things you should get over and quit pandering to your baser self. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2013, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-wont-watch-glee-anymore/669962/127 "2013-10-01T15:05:29Z")
> [@Uber\_the\_Goober](#): > > If you think I’m being offensive because I express the opinion that two grown men kissing is objectionable, then where’s the respect for my position? I’m not required to have respect for it. If you think two men kissing is repulsive, keep it to your own self. If you must bring it up, don’t complain when people make a face and move away from you. People are allowed to have stupid opinions. They’re not guaranteed respect for them. ---
**Author:** ![Uber\_the\_Goober](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/58956e/32.png) [@Uber\_the\_Goober](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uber_the_Goober)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2013, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-wont-watch-glee-anymore/669962/128 "2013-10-01T15:14:14Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > I’m not required to have respect for _homosexual intercourse_. If you think \*my opinion of \*two men kissing is repulsive, keep it to your own self. If you must _engage in homosexual behavior_, don’t complain when people make a face and move away from you. People are allowed to have _homosexual intercourse_. They’re not guaranteed respect for _it_. Post modified, italics mine Ahem, see how that works both ways? ---
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2013, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-wont-watch-glee-anymore/669962/129 "2013-10-01T15:15:00Z")
> [@Uber\_the\_Goober](#): > > Try this on for size - I, as an individual, am not responsible for the subconscious physiological reactions that are AUTOMATIC when I am exposed to gay people kissing/fucking. You run into gay people fucking a lot, huh? Just a tip, you should probably consider switching to straight porn. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2013, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-wont-watch-glee-anymore/669962/130 "2013-10-01T15:19:03Z")
> [@Uber\_the\_Goober](#): > > Post modified, italics mine > > Ahem, see how that works both ways? It doesn’t work both ways. That’s why you had to rewrite his post. ---
**Author:** ![Uber\_the\_Goober](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/58956e/32.png) [@Uber\_the\_Goober](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uber_the_Goober)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2013, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-wont-watch-glee-anymore/669962/131 "2013-10-01T15:29:53Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > It doesn’t work both ways. That’s why you had to rewrite his post. Out here in the real world, where I walk, talk, live, breath, etc. that is exactly how it works. This internet armchair cause-championing that people love to take up doesn’t mean a whole lot when compared against that which actually happens. Two gay guys, one my friend, the other not, start making out in front of me. I roll my eyes and say “aw come on dude” and walk away. A morbidly obese chick puts on a bikini and walks down the boardwalk. I comment to my friends “aw come on dude” and walk the other way. A pair of porno/performance actors decide to shit in a cup and feed it to each other. I comment to my friends “aw come ON dude!” and walk away. In none of those instances were rights trampled upon. The gays can get married and fuck all they want. The fat chick can continue to run about scantily clad. The two girls and their cup can become a viral internet hit. I won’t be campaigning against any of it. Nor will I be leading an angry mob with pitchforks. It doesn’t mean that I’m somehow debasing them to an inferior position, or elevating myself above them. I’m simply expressing my opinion of their actions, and moving away from it. And no matter how you try to dice it, that truly is the perfectly acceptable way that the REAL WORLD works. ---
**Author:** ![Uber\_the\_Goober](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/58956e/32.png) [@Uber\_the\_Goober](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uber_the_Goober)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2013, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-wont-watch-glee-anymore/669962/132 "2013-10-01T15:32:26Z")
> [@MsWhatsit](#): > > You run into gay people fucking a lot, huh? Just a tip, you should probably consider switching to straight porn. Man, some of those sites are sneaky. Do a search on “blowjob” and see what returns. 😉 Ya gotta be specific nowadays in order to not have your mood ruined. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2013, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-wont-watch-glee-anymore/669962/133 "2013-10-01T15:33:22Z")
> [@Uber\_the\_Goober](#): > > And no matter how you try to dice it, that truly is the perfectly acceptable way that the REAL WORLD works. Acceptable to whom? To the government? Sure. To the law? Okay. To me? Nope. Just because it’s legal to say or do something doesn’t mean that it’s acceptable, okay, or appropriate. You have a right to say what you want, and I have a right to think you’re an asshole. That’s how it works. “You have to have respect for my position! You’re closed-minded!” is the constant and tiresome refrain from bigots and homophobes who don’t like being called what they are. But no, in fact, we don’t have to have respect for bigotry, the same as we don’t have to have respect for people who kick puppies or go to Coldplay concerts. Not all opinions are worthy of respect. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2013, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-wont-watch-glee-anymore/669962/134 "2013-10-01T15:34:09Z")
Serious _Glee_ question: The wife and I have watched the first three seasons. Really enjoyed the first two, thought the third was so-so. Is season four really that bad? ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2013, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-wont-watch-glee-anymore/669962/135 "2013-10-01T15:45:13Z")
> [@Uber\_the\_Goober](#): > > Out here in the real world, where I walk, talk, live, breath, etc. that is exactly how it works. This is the real world. You really chose to broadcast that real gay guys and fat chicks gross you out, and that’s now a part of what some real people reading who read your post will really think of you. I bet you can see what they think of you based on what you said. Congratulations! The question isn’t really what you think about someone else kissing or holding hands or whatever. The question is why people feel the need to broadcast, _loudly_, what they feel about seeing it. If you don’t announce it, nobody knows. So if you decide to tell a bunch of people and then say “that’s what I think and I don’t give a fuck, man!” nobody’s going to believe it because it’s clearly not true. ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2013, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-wont-watch-glee-anymore/669962/136 "2013-10-01T15:45:43Z")
> [@Uber\_the\_Goober](#): > > Post modified, italics mine > > Ahem, see how that works both ways? This is [against the rules](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7697048&postcount=11) of the SDMB (changing a poster’s quote to add things not said). Don’t do it again. ---
**Author:** ![Uber\_the\_Goober](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/58956e/32.png) [@Uber\_the\_Goober](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uber_the_Goober)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2013, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-wont-watch-glee-anymore/669962/137 "2013-10-01T15:55:38Z")
> [@MsWhatsit](#): > > \ or go to Coldplay concerts. Not all opinions are worthy of respect. This made me chuckle. Good one. 😃 And I like Coldplay. ---
**Author:** ![cormac262](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f14d63/32.png) [@cormac262](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cormac262)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2013, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-wont-watch-glee-anymore/669962/138 "2013-10-01T16:10:39Z")
> [@the\_diego](#): > > I don’t care what people say, I think it’s disgusting and not something I will have my daughter watch. And I don’t care if I’m the last intolerant person on earth. So back in 1968 there was a “Star Trek” episode where Kirk kissed Uhura. And before that, there was “Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner”. Both examples of interracial relationships. And I’m sure MANY parents then had the EXACT same reaction you are having now. And now we have “Scandal” where the interracial relationship involves the president of the United States ! The fact is, TV and the entertainment industry are always playing “catch up” with what is going on in the world. So you can either try to “shield” your daughter from the reality of the world by trying to keep her in your “denial cave”, or help educate and expose her to what is really going on. ---
**Author:** ![Uber\_the\_Goober](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/58956e/32.png) [@Uber\_the\_Goober](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uber_the_Goober)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2013, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-wont-watch-glee-anymore/669962/139 "2013-10-01T16:18:47Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > This is the real world. You really chose to broadcast that real gay guys and fat chicks gross you out, and that’s now a part of what some real people reading who read your post will really think of you. And I’m ok with that. I’m secure in myself, my opinions, and what others think of them. It’s really not that big of a deal to me. People making it seem like holding an unpopular opinion is somehow worthy of villification are the ones who ought to be reconsidering their “tolerant” stance. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2013, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-wont-watch-glee-anymore/669962/140 "2013-10-01T16:21:26Z")
I’m not vilifying you for holding an unpopular opinion. I’m vilifying you for holding a fucking stupid opinion. There’s a difference. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-wont-watch-glee-anymore/669962.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-it-wont-watch-glee-anymore/669962.md?page=8)