# That's just not fair CK Haven.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-just-not-fair-ck-haven/315871>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 6, 2005, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-just-not-fair-ck-haven/315871 "2005-08-06T14:03:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2005, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-just-not-fair-ck-haven/315871/141 "2005-08-07T23:30:53Z")

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As I told you, Jrfranchi, I’ve checked for your messages, and if I have a problem with any such threads in the future, I’ll bring it to the Pit. You have an apology and a promise. If you want blood, I’m afraid I am unwilling to accomodate you.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2005, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-just-not-fair-ck-haven/315871/142 "2005-08-08T00:07:04Z")

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> [@Liberal](#):
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> As I told you, Jrfranchi, I’ve checked for your messages, and if I have a problem with any such threads in the future, I’ll bring it to the Pit. You have an apology and a promise. If you want blood, I’m afraid I am unwilling to accomodate you.

Okay, cool by me.

I was actually kinda suggesting that they could stop bashing you over my thread.  
I think the problem is cleared up. I will admit to being pissed off but I was missing a lot of background on both sides.

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**Author:** ![rayh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e79b87/32.png) [@rayh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rayh)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2005, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-just-not-fair-ck-haven/315871/143 "2005-08-08T00:11:23Z")

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> [@Liberal](#):
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> If you want blood, I’m afraid I am unwilling to accomodate you.

I believe a human sacrifice is called for in one of the moderator rituals, perhaps you could volunteer? 😃

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**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2005, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-just-not-fair-ck-haven/315871/144 "2005-08-08T00:21:20Z")

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OK-I’m crazy.

I was just reading a thread about some link to some weird other page (live journal? I dunno-never been on it). It referenced this whole mess re: TDS and Liberal. A couple of posters replied and I went to reply and got a strange message about my posting privileges being suspended, which they have not been…

😕

(Mods-I don’t want to start anything, I am just confused by this turn of events–maybe I tried to post at the same time the thread was taken out back and humanely killed?).

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**Author:** ![rayh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e79b87/32.png) [@rayh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rayh)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2005, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-just-not-fair-ck-haven/315871/145 "2005-08-08T00:24:51Z")

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> [@eleanorigby](#):
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> OK-I’m crazy.
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> I was just reading a thread about some link to some weird other page (live journal? I dunno-never been on it). It referenced this whole mess re: TDS and Liberal. A couple of posters replied and I went to reply and got a strange message about my posting privileges being suspended, which they have not been…
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> 😕
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> (Mods-I don’t want to start anything, I am just confused by this turn of events–maybe I tried to post at the same time the thread was taken out back and humanely killed?).

I believe it was deleted due to the references to another board and some people possibly taking offence to what was being posted there.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2005, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-just-not-fair-ck-haven/315871/146 "2005-08-08T00:28:33Z")

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No worries. You happend to hit it just as it was being removed.

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2005, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-just-not-fair-ck-haven/315871/147 "2005-08-08T00:42:53Z")

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I’m a bit pissed that it was “disappeared,” because it contained a smear against me. I hate the idea that someone read the OP, associated me with snark boards, and missed my reply in my defense because it was no longer there.

Just for the record, snark boards are a cowardly phenomenon. Even if I had the time for it, I wouldn’t, couldn’t participate in such sissy behavior.

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**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2005, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-just-not-fair-ck-haven/315871/148 "2005-08-08T00:46:03Z")

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The Internet is truly limitless in its depths and “creativity”, no?  
What freaked me out was that I went in and was kicked out and then couldn’t find it…strange timing.  
It sounded lame and bizarre and not a little creepy.

And now, back to the thread.

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**Author:** ![Binarydrone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3da27b/32.png) [@Binarydrone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Binarydrone)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2005, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-just-not-fair-ck-haven/315871/149 "2005-08-08T00:57:13Z")

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> [@eleanorigby](#):
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> …It sounded lame and bizarre and not a little creepy.

It was.

> [@eleanorigby](#):
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> …And now, back to the thread.

Is this where we start to talk about pie?

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**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2005, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-just-not-fair-ck-haven/315871/150 "2005-08-08T00:59:56Z")

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Um, sure.

Hi, Opal!

(does Opal make pie?)

descending into silliness…

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**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2005, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-just-not-fair-ck-haven/315871/151 "2005-08-08T01:03:17Z")

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> [@eleanorigby](#):
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> (Mods-I don’t want to start anything, I am just confused by this turn of events–maybe I tried to post at the same time the thread was taken out back and humanely killed?).

I put the thread in limbo, while I discuss the situation with more experienced and better-smelling moderators than myself. I understand this is frustrating to those of you mentioned in the OP. Sorry about that.

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**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2005, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-just-not-fair-ck-haven/315871/152 "2005-08-08T01:09:03Z")

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> [@Giraffe](#):
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> I put the thread in limbo, while I discuss the situation with more experienced and better-smelling moderators than myself. I understand this is frustrating to those of you mentioned in the OP. Sorry about that.

GACK!

I wasn’t mentioned in the OP–I don’t even know how to access LiveJournal–much less whatever and wherever that thread came from…(and for the record, despite Liberal being on my last nerve at this point, I would not address him in an underhanded way.)  
I think you were right to kill the thread–it was just the timing of it for me.

'nuf said. Moving on here.

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2005, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-just-not-fair-ck-haven/315871/153 "2005-08-08T01:10:43Z")

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> [@Giraffe](#):
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> I put the thread in limbo, while I discuss the situation with more experienced and better-smelling moderators than myself. I understand this is frustrating to those of you mentioned in the OP. Sorry about that.

And here this prehensile tongue thing supposedly made you the shits! Well, indeedy. A prehensile tongue and a buck twenty will get you a cup of coffee, apparently.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2005, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-just-not-fair-ck-haven/315871/154 "2005-08-08T01:20:51Z")

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> [@Giraffe](#):
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> I put the thread in limbo . . .

Good.

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**Author:** ![Binarydrone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3da27b/32.png) [@Binarydrone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Binarydrone)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2005, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-just-not-fair-ck-haven/315871/155 "2005-08-08T01:37:37Z")

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> [@Hentor the Barbarian](#):
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> … A prehensile tongue and a buck twenty will get you a cup of coffee, apparently.

Not in Seattle (actually, I havn’t tried the tongue thing. I am pretty content to move through life without restraining orders).

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**Author:** ![TVeblen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4bbf92/32.png) [@TVeblen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TVeblen)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2005, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-just-not-fair-ck-haven/315871/156 "2005-08-08T03:28:24Z")

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> [@Giraffe](#):
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> I put the thread in limbo, while I discuss the situation with more experienced and better-smelling moderators than myself. I understand this is frustrating to those of you mentioned in the OP. Sorry about that.

The thread was disappeared because it raked off-board matters onto our board. That’s a longstanding no-no. It stays in the twilight non-space that it so richly deserves.

Veb  
‘Smells better?’

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2005, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-just-not-fair-ck-haven/315871/157 "2005-08-08T03:32:25Z")

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> [@TVeblen](#):
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> ‘Smells better?’

Hey, he _is_ just back from a visit to his ancestral stomping grounds. Maybe he hasn’t had time to take a shower yet.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2005, 9:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-just-not-fair-ck-haven/315871/158 "2005-08-08T09:26:45Z")

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> [@Giraffe](#):
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> I put the thread in limbo, while I discuss the situation with more experienced and better-smelling moderators than myself. I understand this is frustrating to those of you mentioned in the OP. Sorry about that.

Frustrating? Creeped out is more like it for me.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2005, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-just-not-fair-ck-haven/315871/159 "2005-08-08T15:29:55Z")

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Yes, creepy how involved some people get in the internet isn’t it **Lib**? But some people collect stamps. Same same.  
I was shocked to learn that I too was smeared in that gum OP! Outrageous! All those people are so pathetically amusingly, cowardly, sad basement dwellers!

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**Author:** ![Binarydrone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3da27b/32.png) [@Binarydrone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Binarydrone)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2005, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-just-not-fair-ck-haven/315871/160 "2005-08-08T15:40:29Z")

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> [@TVeblen](#):
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> The thread was disappeared because it raked off-board matters onto our board. That’s a longstanding no-no. It stays in the twilight non-space that it so richly deserves…

Well, as far as it goes I understand. However, that was a pretty sweeping and bizarre accusation that **gum** made. May I ask if this matter is still under discussion or do we act like the thread never existed and that we have never been at war with Oceana?

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