# That's just sad now, Kanye West. **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 29, 2019, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-just-sad-now-kanye-west/842663 "2019-10-29T18:25:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![puddleglum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puddleglum/32/137_2.png) [@puddleglum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puddleglum)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2019, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-just-sad-now-kanye-west/842663/21 "2019-10-31T17:34:41Z")
I found his appearance on Corden utterly charming. Why is getting a big tax refund embarrassing? He still has a grandiosity characteristic of his mental state, but he seems to have things under control. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2019, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-just-sad-now-kanye-west/842663/22 "2019-10-31T17:40:28Z")
It’s not getting the big tax refund; it’s thinking that the big tax refund is because he’s found Prosperity Jesus. Though, really, getting a refund that big means that you did a really terrible job of accounting (or more likely in this case, that you did a really terrible job of hiring someone else to do your accounting for you). Which is also embarrassing. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2019, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-just-sad-now-kanye-west/842663/23 "2019-10-31T18:02:49Z")
> [@WolfpackJeep](#): > > My evangelical relatives think Kanye has truly found Jesus, and are thrilled that such a big celebrity is brave enough to go public about his faith. > > 😑 Jesus : “Morons. I’ve got morons on my team”. ---
**Author:** ![puddleglum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puddleglum/32/137_2.png) [@puddleglum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puddleglum)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2019, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-just-sad-now-kanye-west/842663/24 "2019-11-01T16:21:02Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > It’s not getting the big tax refund; it’s thinking that the big tax refund is because he’s found Prosperity Jesus. > > Though, really, getting a refund that big means that you did a really terrible job of accounting (or more likely in this case, that you did a really terrible job of hiring someone else to do your accounting for you). Which is also embarrassing. It is probably his fashion company getting a refund because they applied previous year’s losses to the current year’s profits. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2019, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-just-sad-now-kanye-west/842663/25 "2019-11-01T16:28:29Z")
> [@puddleglum](#): > > It is probably his fashion company getting a refund because they applied previous year’s losses to the current year’s profits. So you’re saying Jesus is not his new accountant? ---
**Author:** ![Taber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ac91a4/32.png) [@Taber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taber)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2019, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-just-sad-now-kanye-west/842663/26 "2019-11-01T17:24:47Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > So you’re saying Jesus is not his new accountant? Not unless it’s a Hispanic accountant. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2019, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-just-sad-now-kanye-west/842663/27 "2019-11-01T18:17:20Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > There’s plenty of good Christian music. It just isn’t made by people who call themselves “Christian musicians”. If you’re a good rock singer who’s Christian, you call yourself a rock singer. If you’re a good rapper who’s Christian, you call yourself a rapper. If you’re a mediocre musician (of any sort) who’s Christian, then you call yourself a Christian musician, and sell to people who don’t care about quality as long as it’s Christian. This is pretty much correct. I like U2 for the most part and Bono is a pretty dedicated Christian. I’m trying to think of Christian music that is specifically labeled in the Christian market, like the stuff that used to be in the Christian book or music stores. I can’t remember what stuff of that type that was good, but I would say: [Crimson Thorn - Dissection](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRr4l3dUQE4&list=PL9F57A9B27F6C75C1) - A legit good death metal album if you like that genre. A band that could have gone on stage with Napalm Death or Cannibal Corpse. [Circle of Dust](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCrL_uaxnaI) - Another talent that ended up “going secular” as we called it back then. Made enough money and got enough attention that they dropped the Christian-exclusive releases. I’m sure there are others. Michael W. Smith is a talented guy, but has countless forgettable albums and songs. ---
**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2019, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-just-sad-now-kanye-west/842663/28 "2019-11-01T23:28:44Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Jesus : “Morons. I’ve got morons on my team”. The really sad thing is that they used to be very suspicious of people spouting anything resembling the teachings of the Prosperity Gospel. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2019, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-just-sad-now-kanye-west/842663/29 "2019-11-03T20:48:47Z")
I actually listened to the album today, which is stunningly only a half-hour long. 1. It’s not the worst thing he has put out, which is not saying that much. I don’t hate this album. 2. It’s basically a demo album. Why so lazy? He made full albums about shallow topics. If he has had a religious experience, why not make a magnum opus length album? I think if had gone all in and made something big and incredible, people would have appreciated it more. This seems half-hearted. 3. What the heck is up with that Chick-Fil-A song? Weirdest thing I’ve heard in forever. It’s like he made the Weird Al version of one of his songs. ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2019, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-just-sad-now-kanye-west/842663/30 "2019-11-03T21:21:39Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > It’s basically a demo album. Why so lazy? He made full albums about shallow topics. If he has had a religious experience, why not make a magnum opus length album? I think if had gone all in and made something big and incredible, people would have appreciated it more. This seems half-hearted… IMO, this is actually evidence of his mental health and sanity. This is because ultra-short 1:30 length tracks and 30-minute length albums are what’s en vogue now. Not just in pop music but in rap music as well. I cant speak for why this is (shorter attention spans?) but it’s definitely true. I think Kanye knows what appeals to the youth of today. At least in this one regard. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2019, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-just-sad-now-kanye-west/842663/31 "2019-11-03T22:21:20Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > IMO, this is actually evidence of his mental health and sanity. This is because ultra-short 1:30 length tracks and 30-minute length albums are what’s en vogue now. Not just in pop music but in rap music as well. I cant speak for why this is (shorter attention spans?) but it’s definitely true. I think Kanye knows what appeals to the youth of today. At least in this one regard. I had no idea, as this is not a genre I am informed about. When did this crap start? And why? ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2019, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-just-sad-now-kanye-west/842663/32 "2019-11-03T23:07:39Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > I had no idea, as this is not a genre I am informed about. When did this crap start? And why? The 30-minute part might be related to this trend of releasing albums on vinyl, since that’s about all that will fit. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2019, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-just-sad-now-kanye-west/842663/33 "2019-11-03T23:15:05Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > The 30-minute part might be related to this trend of releasing albums on vinyl, since that’s about all that will fit. Color me clueless. Are they not two-sided? ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2019, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-just-sad-now-kanye-west/842663/34 "2019-11-03T23:28:24Z")
In the sixth dimension there’s only one. ---
**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2019, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-just-sad-now-kanye-west/842663/35 "2019-11-09T00:08:35Z")
It just gets better… [Christian Genius Billionaire, huh?](https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/08/entertainment/kanye-west-genius-billionaire-trnd/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![fedman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/278dde/32.png) [@fedman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fedman)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2019, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-just-sad-now-kanye-west/842663/36 "2019-11-18T03:54:02Z")
> [@WolfpackJeep](#): > > My evangelical relatives think Kanye has truly found Jesus, and are thrilled that such a big celebrity is brave enough to go public about his faith. > > 😑 so how do feel when he went on Joel’s show and said “God made him the greatest artist”, and " Devil took over all great producers/artists/etc"? ---
**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2019, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-just-sad-now-kanye-west/842663/37 "2019-11-18T04:03:29Z")
so what does he think of his wife and her sisters who makes their living by posing half-naked to totally nude at least once a year? Im beginning to believe they dont actually live together day to day and he just comes by for the kids maybe some nookie and photo ops (like tabloids have claimed ) … ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2019, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-just-sad-now-kanye-west/842663/38 "2019-11-18T04:06:50Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > I had no idea, as this is not a genre I am informed about. When did this crap start? And why? I’m too old to understand myself. My WAG is it’s a byproduct of Internet Life. Attention can only be captured for so long before interest is lost or distraction is found. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2019, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-just-sad-now-kanye-west/842663/39 "2019-11-18T04:16:50Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > The 30-minute part might be related to this trend of releasing albums on vinyl, since that’s about all that will fit. > [@Mahaloth](#): > > Color me clueless. Are they not two-sided? Yeah, a 33 ⅓ RPM LP will hold approximately 46 minutes of music, 23 on each side. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2019, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-just-sad-now-kanye-west/842663/40 "2019-11-18T07:18:35Z")
> [@nightshadea](#): > > so what does he think of his wife and her sisters who makes their living by posing half-naked to totally nude at least once a year? I hate the Kardashians, but that’s really not even close to how any of them make a living. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-just-sad-now-kanye-west/842663.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-just-sad-now-kanye-west/842663.md?page=3)