# That's mighty arrogant ... **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [December 27, 2000, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-mighty-arrogant/47322 "2000-12-27T02:30:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2000, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-mighty-arrogant/47322/41 "2000-12-28T20:26:23Z")
My motherf\*cking ass off and pissing in my pants. ---
**Author:** ![Kaz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kaz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kaz)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2000, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-mighty-arrogant/47322/42 "2000-12-28T20:30:20Z")
wow ---
**Author:** ![caircair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/91b2a8/32.png) [@caircair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/caircair)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2000, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-mighty-arrogant/47322/43 "2000-12-28T21:37:50Z")
Dear Beth: So you know what you want: a man to spend gobs of money on you and lavish you with all kinds of attention while you sit back and take him for what he’s got. BUT you don’t want to have to “work” for this. Have you considered a career with an escort service, or as a call girl? You get the attention, the money, and you don’t have to put up with the pain of a “relationship”. ---
**Author:** ![Homer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/df788c/32.png) [@Homer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homer)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2000, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-mighty-arrogant/47322/44 "2000-12-28T22:11:51Z")
**Phil** , I almost wasted a stress headache replying to you, but I think Jester, Wonko, and elmwood already said what I was going to. **Obfus** , Obfus, at least when _we_ disagree, we do it civilly. 😉 –Tim ---
**Author:** ![pldennison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9fc29f/32.png) [@pldennison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pldennison)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2000, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-mighty-arrogant/47322/45 "2000-12-28T22:53:36Z")
**elmwood** , gosh, I’ll be truly and dearly crushed if you don’t read my threads. Really. You obviously have tons of valuable contributions to make. > [@](#): > > If you like Beth so much, why don’t you move to Buffalo, give her some trinkets, and become her love slave, > okay? Because unlike some people in this thread, I **have** a wife. If you have a spouse, then I have to wonder what you’re doing browsing the classified ads. **Homer** , apparently you can dish it out but you can’t take it, eh? Tell me, what did you hope to get out of your e-mail–a pity date? An angry response? Or do you just have so little self-esteem (want me to find your “I’m a worthless piece of shit” Pit thread you started about yourself?) that you needed to tear someone down to feel good about yourself? ---
**Author:** ![elmwood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmwood/32/3060_2.png) [@elmwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elmwood)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2000, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-mighty-arrogant/47322/46 "2000-12-29T02:05:19Z")
Phil sez … : elmwood, gosh, I’ll be truly and dearly crushed if you : don’t read my threads. Really. You obviously have tons of : valuable contributions to make. Unlike you, who only delights in throwing insults around. When someone has nothing to contribute to a thread, except to make comments with the intent of inciting the anger of other posters in the discussion, it’s called **trolling**. As you are probably not aware of, trolling is usually looked down upon, in both Usenet and Web-based bulletin boards. I didn’t see you making comments in the Anal Mary thread, at [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=41612](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=41612) . Why insult those who participate in this thread, huh? ---
**Author:** ![pldennison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9fc29f/32.png) [@pldennison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pldennison)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2000, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-mighty-arrogant/47322/47 "2000-12-29T14:17:41Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by elmwood \* > **Unlike you, who only delights in throwing insults around.** Riiiiiiight. I’ve got more than 4,000 posts. Unless you’ve read all of them, I’ll thank you to refrain from characterizations about what I “only delight” in. > [@](#): > > When someone has nothing to contribute to a thread, except to make comments with the intent of inciting the anger of other posters in the discussion, it’s called **trolling**. As you are probably not aware of, trolling is usually looked down upon, in both Usenet and Web-based bulletin boards. Gawrsh, Uncle Elmie, could ya esplain some more ‘bout th’ Internet to me? So what is it called when you find a person’s personal ad and post a link to it on a message board of which she is not a member for the purpose of getting people to mock her and send her derisive e-mails? (I’ll give you a hint: It rhymes with “Fleeing a big fat sock.”) FYI, I had no intention of inciting anyone’s anger. I had and have an intention of calling 'em as I see 'em (and I’m not the only one in the thread who feels this way, obviously, as obfuscatriast and lucie do as well). Apparently the standard is “We can post links to total strangers and send them mocking e-mails, but we are above criticism for it.” I mean, if you’re only bothered by the fact that I hijacked your precious thread to make the comments, I’ll start a new one. (Which, ironically, you will by your own decision be unable to respond to since you won’t be reading it.) OTOH, if the shoe fits . . . > [@](#): > > I didn’t see you making comments in the Anal Mary thread, at [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=41612](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=41612) . Never saw the thread. See, I don’t read MPSIMS a lot. Most of my posts are in GD and GQ. In fact, I only saw this thread because another Doper notified me of it. If it was the same kind of thing as this, then shame on those people, too. Please, please, please don’t think that you are so special that I singled your thread out. Until this thread, I had no idea you even existed. ---
**Author:** ![pldennison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9fc29f/32.png) [@pldennison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pldennison)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2000, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-mighty-arrogant/47322/48 "2000-12-29T14:21:58Z")
BTW, threads like this one _really_ do a lot to help enforce the reputation of the SDMB as a place where smart folks hang out. Again, you should be brimming with pride. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2000, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-mighty-arrogant/47322/49 "2000-12-29T16:26:19Z")
_curls up in the corner with her stuffed chamealeon and waits patiently for the inevitable…“Take it to the Pit…”_ Caircair-YOUR response was right on the money. I mean, come on! “Spoil me, and spend tons of money on me, so I can use and abuse you!” And double standards, anyone? Had that been a man saying something like that, telling some girls they were pathetic if they weren’t interested in him, and that they had to worship him while he sat back and did nothing-do you think anyone would be defending him? ---
**Author:** ![Crunchy\_Frog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ebca7d/32.png) [@Crunchy\_Frog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crunchy_Frog)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2000, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-mighty-arrogant/47322/50 "2000-12-29T17:43:18Z")
**pldennison** - can’t you see how hypocritical you’re being by calling 'em as you see 'em? How is your judgment call about **Homer** and **elmwood** any different from their judgment calls about Beth? Here’s what you said (bolding mine): > [@](#): > > Gee, an awful lot of people in this thread who **don’t have girlfriends, significant others, or even remote prospects** sure have pretty strong opinions as to this woman’s state of mind and desirability. And that’s a pretty bold statement. You know the personal lives of all the posters here? You know they have no prospects? Even if this happens to be true, why does that lessen their opinions? Just because you have an SO does not make your opinons any more valid than theirs. Maybe they are single by choice. > [@](#): > > \ wouldn’t even know existed if **some other loser** hadn’t posted a link on a message board is about as emotionally immature a cheap shot as one can get. Here you call **elmwood** a loser and imply **Homer** is one also. Name calling is not an emotionally immature cheap shot? You contridict yourself here. > [@](#): > > The funny thing is that if her ad had instead been something posted by one of the female SDMBers in the Pit, **you’d all be there telling her how right on she was in the hopes of garnering some flirtation out of it.** And here you presume to know the actions, motivations, and state of mind of everyone here. How utterly arrogant of you. You chastize these guys for making an armchair analysis and then post stuff like this. Mr.Pot, meet Mr.Kettle. Take a nice long long at the snap judgments you’re making about these posters before you critisize them again for making armchair analysis, why don’t you? signed, The **engaged** Crunchy Frog (I add “engaged” because for some reason, Mr.Dennison seems to believe only people with SO’s have a valid opinion in this thread.) ---
**Author:** ![Jester](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jester/32/8223_2.png) [@Jester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jester)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2000, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-mighty-arrogant/47322/51 "2000-12-29T18:11:41Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by pldennison \* > **FYI, I had no intention of inciting anyone’s anger.** And yet, you go ahead and post things like this: > [@](#): > > **OK, Homer. Personally, I think that sending a lengthy, critical armchair psychoanalysis via e-mail to a person you’ve never met, are not interested in dating and wouldn’t even know existed if some other loser hadn’t posted a link on a message board is about as emotionally immature a cheap shot as one can get.** As **Crunchy Frog** pointed out, this is most definitely an insult, not just to **elmwood** , but to **Homer** , as well. Can you say hippocrite? And I won’t even bring up the sweeping generalization about everyone who takes offense to the ad being single. Oh, wait, I just did. Oops. If that wasn’t meant to “insite anyone’s anger,” then what the Hell did you say it for? > [@](#): > > \*\* > I had and have an intention of calling 'em as I see 'em (and I’m not the only one in the thread who feels this way, obviously, as obfuscatriast and lucie do as well). Apparently the standard is “We can post links to total strangers and send them mocking e-mails, but we are above criticism for it.” \*\* Then good ol’ Beth should not have posted a message in a public advertisement which put down everyone that read it, and stated just how much greater she is than everyone else. But hey, don’t yell at me, I’m just calling 'em as I see 'em. :rolleyes: (Oh, and, by the way, I’m not the only one who thinks so, obviously, since the vast majority of posters in this thread agree do as well.) As to what **Homer** expected to get out of his letter? My guess is nothing. _especially_ not a “pity date”. How do I know, you ask? Well, try this line: > [@](#): > > **I, for one, am quite lonely and would like companionship, but do not use the internet because going to college leaves me with no time for dating.** Nay, since **Homer** just stated that he doesn’t have time for dating, I’m guessing that he wasn’t looking for a chance to hook up with this snooty, self-delcared God’s gift to men. It seems that, instead, **Homer** meant to express his anger at Beth’s sweeping generalizations (see, she uses them too, she sounds like your type) about anyone who uses internet dating services. In addition, **Homer** could be doing Beth a favor, by trying to help her realize just how self-absorbed she is. Before you go commenting on how we’re all picking on poor, downtrodden Beth, you should take another look at her ad. We didn’t single her out because we’re all overly frustrated men, we singled her out we found what she wrote to be offensive. So get over it. ---
**Author:** ![obfusciatrist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4af34b/32.png) [@obfusciatrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obfusciatrist)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2000, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-mighty-arrogant/47322/52 "2000-12-29T18:18:15Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Guinastasia \* > **And double standards, anyone? Had that been a man saying something like that, telling some girls they were pathetic if they weren’t interested in him, and that they had to worship him while he sat back and did nothing-do you think anyone would be defending him?** I would, **Guinastasia**. Look, her ad reads like something straight out of SDSM porn. If you don’t like her game, fine, don’t play it. But it doesn’t mean that there is something psychologically wrong with her. I’ve been in both roles for the game she is playing and believe me, for most people it is just a role, a game. Everybody has their kinks, this is hers (I personally don’t understand people who only play the top, bottom is more fun). Whatver floats your boat. I would however, ask that everybody post their own proclivities so that everybody else can point out how screwed up we are. ---
**Author:** ![Jester](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jester/32/8223_2.png) [@Jester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jester)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2000, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-mighty-arrogant/47322/53 "2000-12-29T18:28:03Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by obfusciatrist \* > \*\* > I would, **Guinastasia**. Look, her ad reads like something straight out of SDSM porn. If you don’t like her game, fine, don’t play it. But it doesn’t mean that there is something psychologically wrong with her. > > I’ve been in both roles for the game she is playing and believe me, for most people it is just a role, a game. Everybody has their kinks, this is hers (I personally don’t understand people who only play the top, bottom is more fun). Whatver floats your boat. > > I would however, ask that everybody post their own proclivities so that everybody else can point out how screwed up we are. \*\* Yes, but, **obfusciatrist** , we don’t know that for sure. All that we can factually discern from her post is that she is putting down anyone who reads her ad. There is no way to tell, for sure, whether she is really just “playing her game” or whether she is a complete and total bitch, from the ad alone. If she were to reply to either **Homer** or **Ender** saying that the domination is what she prefers, and she’s really not bad, then fine. The ad is still annoying, but okay nonetheless. However, the ad doesn’t paint her as someone who likes domination. To me, it looks like she’s _living_ the role of self-absorbed bitch, 24/7. Believe it or not, not every person who is a jerk is doing it to get off through some fantasy. There are better ways she could have advertised a domination fetish, that would have made it more clear. For example “Female dom seeks subordinate male counterpart,” or something along those lines. As it is, her ad leaves too much of a question as to her intents to not be offensive to many. ---
**Author:** ![pldennison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9fc29f/32.png) [@pldennison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pldennison)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2000, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-mighty-arrogant/47322/54 "2000-12-29T18:40:24Z")
Crunchy, you I’ll respond to, only because you’re the kind of person who is willing to discuss things. > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Crunchy Frog \* > **pldennison - can’t you see how hypocritical you’re being by calling 'em as you see 'em? How is your judgment call about Homer and elmwood any different from their judgment calls about Beth?** Well, first of all, I’ll readily admit that I’m doing what I accuse them of doing. My problem is that they appear to be able to dish it out but not take it. They’ll drag a total stranger’s post here to be made fun of by the entire SDMB, but if someone questions their tact and their motivation, watch the defenses rise. Second of all, while I can’t necessarily speak for elmwood, I’ve been watching Homer’s posts for a long time. Ask him about the thread he started linking to pages full of “ugly people.” and the shit he took for that, and quickly he backpedaled. Seems he never learns. So I’m not making a snap judgement–I’m making a judgement based on Homer’s posting history. > [@](#): > > And that’s a pretty bold statement. You know the personal lives of all the posters here? You know they have no prospects? Even if this happens to be true, why does that lessen their opinions? I know for a fact that several of the people posting in the thread do not have girlfriends or prospects, and as such, perhaps they would be wise to refrain from criticizing the dating criteria of others. What strikes me as particularly funny is that by Homer and Enderw23 doing what they are doing, they are only validating what she complains about in her ad. > [@](#): > > Just because you have an SO does not make your opinons any more valid than theirs. Maybe they are single by choice. Uh, yeah. Except they aren’t. > [@](#): > > Here you call **elmwood** a loser and imply **Homer** is one also. Name calling is not an emotionally immature cheap shot? You contridict yourself here. People who search the Web for personal ads to post on message boards to get people to make fun of the person in the ad **are** losers. I can’t think of a more appropriate word to describe them. > [@](#): > > (snip my comment about garnering flirtation) > And here you presume to know the actions, motivations, and state of mind of everyone here. How utterly arrogant of you. You chastize these guys for making an armchair analysis and then post stuff like this. Mr.Pot, meet Mr.Kettle. Take a nice long long at the snap judgments you’re making about these posters before you critisize them again for making armchair analysis, why don’t you? Do you think I’ve never read their posts before, Crunchy? A great many of the posters in this thread are charter members of the SDMB Flirt Squad; if one of them posted a Pit thread about how some man or woman had hurt them, and used Beth’s language from her ad, I guarantee that these same posters would be falling all over themselves to assuage him or her. > [@](#): > > (I add “engaged” because for some reason, Mr.Dennison seems to believe only people with SO’s have a valid opinion in this thread. No, I think people whose dating lives currently equal less than zero should maybe shut their mouths about other people’s love lives and how they choose their partners. **Jester** , not only can I say “hypocrite,” I can spell it. Score another one for stamping out ignorance, I guess. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Crunchy\_Frog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ebca7d/32.png) [@Crunchy\_Frog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crunchy_Frog)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2000, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-mighty-arrogant/47322/55 "2000-12-29T18:40:47Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Jester \* > **Yes, but, obfusciatrist, we don’t know that for sure. All that we can factually discern from her post is that she is putting down anyone who reads her ad. There is no way to tell, for sure, whether she is really just “playing her game” or whether she is a complete and total bitch, from the ad alone.** **Jester** , I kind of think this is the point that **obfus** and **pldennison** were trying to make (but IMHO, I’d say **obfus** is doing a better job of it). You _don’t_ know who she is or what her intents were, so why not give her the benefit of the doubt instead of making a judgment of her intentions? Don’t get my respnse to **pldennsion** as a disagreement with his POV, just in his manner of presenting it. If I had seen this on my own, I would have probably thought she was a bit too much of a prima donna for me, but not so much as to warrant any sort of response from me, and I certainly wouldn’t have tried to suggest she needs to seek help. I also wouldn’t have responded cuz my finace may want to know who the hell the Beth chick is who’s calling and why the hell I was looking at ads in the first place. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Jester](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jester/32/8223_2.png) [@Jester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jester)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2000, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-mighty-arrogant/47322/56 "2000-12-29T18:56:09Z")
Ouch. An insult about a typo. That hurts. (A large, ugly, misplaced typo, I’ll admit, but a typo nonetheless.) **Crunchy** , I agree that **obfus** and **pldennison** have a point about not knowing either way. But I’m just saying that the ambiguousness of the ad is the problem. I don’t believe that **Homer** , **Ender** , and everybody else who took offense to the ad can be blamed for reacting unfavorably to it, since there really _is_ no way to tell. People react different ways to different things, and for something like that, I think that a few letters are completely justified. I’m sorry if I didn’t make that clear. My biggest beef was with **pld’s** “didn’t mean to incite anger” line, followed up by a couple insults. Also, I guess I’ll apologize for not coming across as “willing to discuss these things,” whatever that means. ---
**Author:** ![Silly\_Rabbit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47774/32.png) [@Silly\_Rabbit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silly_Rabbit)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2000, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-mighty-arrogant/47322/57 "2000-12-29T19:14:47Z")
**My two cents** … I think that the moment we put ourselves, in any way shape or form, on the internet for the world to see, or read, we are opening ourselves up to a barrage of either insults or compliments. There will always be people who will feel compelled to respond to people like Beth simply because it is a form of expression for themselves. So sue them. Beth will receive letters of disgust as will she receive letters from fetishists who will want to be her “sub” and spoil her. IMO, youth speaks volumes for Beth’s attitude. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2000, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-mighty-arrogant/47322/58 "2000-12-29T19:15:01Z")
PL-you and I have a little appointment in the Pit, pal. [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=53112](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=53112) Jester, Homer, Crunchy, all of yinz are welcome to come and continue your “debate” with Phil here… ---
**Author:** ![pldennison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9fc29f/32.png) [@pldennison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pldennison)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2000, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-mighty-arrogant/47322/59 "2000-12-29T19:41:06Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Jester \* > \*\* . . . have a point about not knowing either way. But I’m just saying that the ambiguousness of the ad is the problem. \*\* And **my** point is that she **didn’t even post the bloody thing here**. She posted it in a place where people are be likely to be looking for personal ads. **elmwood** posted I link here, and I can only assume he did so for the purpose of getting you lot to talk trash about her and send her nasty e-mails. What the hell is the point in that? Is that _really_ how you get your kicks? Come on . . . > [@](#): > > I don’t believe that **Homer** , **Ender** , and everybody else who took offense to the ad can be blamed for reacting unfavorably to it, since there really _is_ no way to tell. People react different ways to different things, and for something like that, I think that a few letters are completely justified. Again, it isn’t like she came to the SDMB and started a thread looking for dating inquiries and then proceeded to trash all the men here. She probably has never even heard of the SDMB. **Some stranger** dragged **her** post over here to start some crap. I mean, if that isn’t trolling, what the hell is?? If she had come here and started it, there might be grounds to take offense. But she didn’t. Doesn’t anyone remember the great SDMB/LBMB war, and how that started? GD was disrupted for **weeks** because an SDMBer posted a link and basically said, “Give 'em hell!” I can see no more purpose in this thread’s little escapade than I did in that. Am I nuts here, or does **nobody** see what I’m saying? > [@](#): > > My biggest beef was with **pld’s** “didn’t mean to incite anger” line, followed up by a couple insults. I didn’t mean to incite anger. I meant to make a couple people ashamed of themselves. If that made them angry, then that’s their issue, not mine. ---
**Author:** ![Crunchy\_Frog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ebca7d/32.png) [@Crunchy\_Frog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crunchy_Frog)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2000, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-mighty-arrogant/47322/60 "2000-12-29T19:43:59Z")
Holy simulpost, Batman! Well, **pldennison** , as you can see from my previous post, I don’t have a problem with what you’re saying, just with the manner in which you said it. I don’t think insulting them and belittling their social lives is the best way to tell someone not to be judgmental. A couple things I’m still not clear on: > [@](#): > > I know for a fact that several of the people posting in the thread do not have girlfriends or prospects, and as such, perhaps they would be wise to refrain from criticizing the dating criteria of others. I still don’t see how not having an SO makes their opinions any less valid or relevant. Doesn’t the fact that people without SOs or prospects would still not have anything to do with this woman say something? (and I would have to disagree with some posters and say I thought she looked attractive) > [@](#): > > People who search the Web for personal ads to post on message boards to get people to make fun of the person in the ad are losers. I can’t think of a more appropriate word to describe them. Then myabe you could ask your wife for a thesaurus for your birthday. 😃 C’mon, there has to be a more constructive way to say that without being insulting; immature for example, still not nice, but hardly as inflammatory as calling someone a loser. But was poking fun of her the intention of **elmwood’s** OP? There he simply asked who would date this person, he didn’t start his own anti-Beth movement. > [@](#): > > A great many of the posters in this thread are charter members of the SDMB Flirt Squad As a charter member of the SDMB Flirt Squad, I’m walking away from this one. 😉 > [@](#): > > No, I think people whose dating lives currently equal less than zero should maybe shut their mouths about other people’s love lives and how they choose their partners. Again, we’re just going to have to disagree here. I don’t see how I will be convinced that just because someone currently isn’t in a relationship, their views about relationships aren’t equal to those who are in a relationship. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-mighty-arrogant/47322.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-mighty-arrogant/47322.md?page=4)