# That's not what that recipe means! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 25, 2020, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-not-what-that-recipe-means/852558 "2020-04-25T15:51:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-not-what-that-recipe-means/852558/61 "2020-04-26T05:34:14Z")
> [@Leaffan](#): > > What the hell’s it supposed to be covered in? All enchilada sauces are tomato based. Like the name says, it should come with a _chili_ sauce, made of toasted dried peppers steeped in boiling water, then pureed, seasoned, and strained. The only time I’ve ever seen them with a tomato-based sauce is at a taco truck near my work which calls them “gringo enchiladas”, as opposed to “Mexican enchiladas” with the chili sauce. Apparently in Texas they like to top their enchiladas with “chili gravy”, which is very different and strange but also somewhat intriguing. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 11:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-not-what-that-recipe-means/852558/62 "2020-04-26T11:03:57Z")
> [@terentii](#): > > Nothing to be ashamed of if you’re dentally challenged. > > In Italy, BTW, they eat pizza with the slices folded over front-to-back so nothing slides off. (Their crusts are thinner than your average American crusts.) Actually, I am dentally challenged. My front teeth don’t meet. Maybe that’s why I like to use a knife. ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-not-what-that-recipe-means/852558/63 "2020-04-26T11:40:14Z")
Reuben sandwiches. For some reason people think it’s perfectly okay to mess with the recipe and still call it a “reuben.” When I complain that I ordered a reuben and they brought me some bullshit with turkey and gouda and cole slaw and they explain to me that “that’s just how \*we \*make a reuben” I’m calling bullshit. Fuck you! If you want to serve turkey and gouda sandwiches with cole slaw and ranch dressing, fine, but don’t call it a fucking reuben sandwich you idiots! ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-not-what-that-recipe-means/852558/64 "2020-04-26T12:15:32Z")
> [@california\_jobcase](#): > > Go to Anderson, Indiana and order an Italian beef sandwich at Art’s. They’ll ask you if you want mangoes on it. Any guesses as to what mangoes are? > > green bell peppers That’s all over the Midwest, I believe. It was on pizza menus on my part of Ohio. Apparently the etymology is that mangos were only available in preserved form and the term “mangoed” became a synonym for “pickled.” Green bell chilis (“peppers”) were commonly pickled, so they were called “mangoed peppers.” —\> mango peppers —\> mangoes ---
**Author:** ![Die\_Capacitrix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/die_capacitrix/32/9_2.png) [@Die\_Capacitrix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Die_Capacitrix)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-not-what-that-recipe-means/852558/65 "2020-04-26T12:18:40Z")
> [@Yorkshire\_Pudding](#): > > I watched a pal of mine eat a plate of nachos with a knife and fork. I had to ask. We were in a bar, so it was a meal out, so it was eaten with a knife and fork. How could it be any other way? > > Fingers? In a _restaurant_? What the hell was wrong with me? > > There was no irony, no joke. As it is not always possible to wash one’s hands, and/or use hand sterilizer, the fork and knife might be the better bet. Here in Switzerland many people will use a fork and knife to eat a hamburger and fries. Many people don’t like getting food on their hands and will even eat fried chicken with a knife and fork. > [@terentii](#): > > Nothing to be ashamed of if you’re dentally challenged. > > In Italy, BTW, they eat pizza with the slices folded over front-to-back so nothing slides off. (Their crusts are thinner than your average American crusts.) Not sure what part of Italy you are in / visited. Never seen that and I’ve never seen any of my Italian coworkers pick up pizza if a knife and fork is available. My own example. My parents make potpie quite often, and I was thrilled to learn that my husband liked chicken potpie. No, he was taking about the chicken mixture between two pie crusts and was I was talking about homemade noodles in a pot. [Why Chicken Potpie Is Different in Pennsylvania—and So Much Better!](https://www.tasteofhome.com/article/amish-chicken-potpie/) And even the pictures in the article are messed up. We never put vegetables in with the chicken (or beef) with the noodles. [This](https://www.food.com/recipe/pot-pie-noodles-w-ham-beef-chicken-or-turkey-131218) recipe is closer to what I grew up with. ---
**Author:** ![Ruken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f475e1/32.png) [@Ruken](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ruken)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-not-what-that-recipe-means/852558/66 "2020-04-26T12:27:30Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > I have heard of people using curry powder where curry leaves were called for because “It’s just ground up curry leaves, right?” I had an underexposed midwesterner ask me, about my lunch, “does that have curry in it?” and I wasn’t sure how to answer. It was a curry but had no curry leaves. Nor was it made from a prefab mix. ---
**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-not-what-that-recipe-means/852558/67 "2020-04-26T12:33:46Z")
A funny one that you come across in Australia is [Bánh mì](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B%C3%A1nh_m%C3%AC), the Vietnamese staple, made with soy sauce rather than the Swiss invention, Maggi Seasoning, because people feel the soy sauce is more “authentic.” It’s not. In Vietnam it has always been Maggi (pronounced Marjee, if asking for extra.) ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-not-what-that-recipe-means/852558/68 "2020-04-26T12:35:24Z")
Burgers are sometimes messy. Especially in a sit-down restaurant. If it starts falling soarer when I try to pick it up, I switch to knife and fork. ---
**Author:** ![Ruken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f475e1/32.png) [@Ruken](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ruken)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-not-what-that-recipe-means/852558/69 "2020-04-26T12:37:04Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > That was my assumption as well, however, baking soda is frequently used to tenderize beef and doesn’t produce that reaction. Very strange. Baking powder also contains an acid, so it won’t raise the pH as much as baking soda. I’m not going to waste meat experimenting right now. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-not-what-that-recipe-means/852558/70 "2020-04-26T12:41:16Z")
Oh and if the nachos are overloaded and difficult to handle neatly, you betcha, our comes the fork. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-not-what-that-recipe-means/852558/71 "2020-04-26T13:36:09Z")
> [@Ruken](#): > > Very strange. Baking powder also contains an acid, so it won’t raise the pH as much as baking soda. I’ve just been looking at baking powder ingredients. It’s either a single acid or two acids. I had figured the reaction was like that it lutefisk, where lye reacts with fat. The only difference I can see between baking powder and baking soda is that a double acting includes a high-temp acid that reacts with something to create the soapy flavor. Several internet sites discuss using baking soda while saying baking powder is not used without providing any more reasoning. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-not-what-that-recipe-means/852558/72 "2020-04-26T13:56:55Z")
> [@Ruken](#): > > Very strange. Baking powder also contains an acid, so it won’t raise the pH as much as baking soda. I don’t know much about chemistry, bicarbonate seems like it should be the culprit, its not an acid (i think), but that would be apparent in use and it’s not. It also should neutralize the acids in baking powder. So I’m lost on this. ---
**Author:** ![MikeG](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikeg/32/4329_2.png) [@MikeG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeG)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-not-what-that-recipe-means/852558/73 "2020-04-26T14:06:36Z")
Here in IL there is a small chain of burger places called Meatheads. They advertise a wedge salad but when you get it, it’s a chopped salad. Looking at their menu, they appear to have taken “chopped” out of the description. Images indicate it’s still not a wedge salad. The very idea of a “chopped wedge” salad angers me. I love wedge salads exactly for their composition; by their nature they demand a level of freshness that chopped salads cannot hope to duplicate. ---
**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-not-what-that-recipe-means/852558/74 "2020-04-26T14:23:56Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > I occasionally will eat pizza with a knife and fork, depending on its structural integrity. > > I’m an iconoclast, just busting icons left and right. There’s a Wisconsin chain of pizza restaurants - Rocky Rococo - that serves single slices of deep dish. Most people use a knife and fork with that. And our Italian friends took us to a pizza place in Lecco (run by a Neapolitan, we were told) and at least one of the age her pizza with a knife and fork. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-not-what-that-recipe-means/852558/75 "2020-04-26T15:33:17Z")
> [@DCnDC](#): > > Reuben sandwiches. For some reason people think it’s perfectly okay to mess with the recipe and still call it a “reuben.” I feel the same way about vodka martinis. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-not-what-that-recipe-means/852558/76 "2020-04-26T21:46:09Z")
Especially since a martini is mostly gin, to begin with. Sure, if you’re using something else instead of an olive, or replacing the vermouth, maybe that’s still a martini, but changing the main and in some cases nearly only ingredient? ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-not-what-that-recipe-means/852558/77 "2020-04-26T22:16:48Z")
> [@Die\_Capacitrix](#): > > Not sure what part of Italy you are in / visited. Venice. ---
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-not-what-that-recipe-means/852558/78 "2020-04-26T22:31:42Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > OK, that’s weird. And when no one is watching, I often eat pizza with a fork and knife. When no one is watching, I often eat pizza backward (crust first). ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-not-what-that-recipe-means/852558/79 "2020-04-26T22:36:29Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > Same thing happened with my brother’s wife. She thought a cheeseburger was something like a cheese sandwich. We had to explain to her that it was a hamburger with cheese added. > > I don’t know what happened with “X.” X was a guy who was my friend’s father’s choice for a husband. X had been living in Texas for a while and he came to town to visit my friend. We all went out to lunch. I was the only meat eater in the group and X tried to order a steak sandwich and was horrified when everyone had to explain to him that a steak sandwich had meat in it. I don’t know how one lives in Texas and doesn’t learn very quickly what “steak” means. Reminds me of a boss I had years and years ago. He was from India and was vegetarian. He went with people to a prime rib restaurant and was really happy he could eat the creamed spinach side…which he _loved_. We hated to tell him it was made with bacon. ---
**Author:** ![Patx2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/73ab20/32.png) [@Patx2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patx2)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-not-what-that-recipe-means/852558/80 "2020-04-26T23:56:23Z")
> [@panache45](#): > > When no one is watching, I often eat pizza backward (crust first). I do the same! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-not-what-that-recipe-means/852558.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-not-what-that-recipe-means/852558.md?page=5)