# That's right. It's SATAN who made you see those beautiful girls in the Jeep Wrangler.

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**Created:** [March 12, 2008, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-right-its-satan-who-made-you-see-those-beautiful-girls-in-the-jeep-wrangler/441175 "2008-03-12T23:24:36Z")\
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**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2008, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-right-its-satan-who-made-you-see-those-beautiful-girls-in-the-jeep-wrangler/441175/1 "2008-03-12T23:24:36Z")

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Holy dogshit.

Here’s a Facebook note from a friend of mine. Well, I haven’t spoken to him in a long time, and I don’t know him all that well, but he’s “friends” with me on Facebook. He really is a good, creative, interesting guy. But lately he’s fallen hard for some kind of Christian kick.

This is what he wrote:

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> Today as I was driving to Petco to get some medicine for a fish I’ve been looking after I saw what has to be the most attractive thing I have EVER seen.
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> As I’m stopped at a red light, I look to my left.
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> There’s a Jeep Wrangler stopped next to me. Within the jeep wrangler are three chicks, each of a different ethnicity, with two dogs: A lab and a border collie. On the jeep there was a Colts football decal. In the lap of one of the girls was a basketball.
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> I could only stare in wonder. It was the rarest of sights. I knew I would never see anything like it again. I tried to cherish it for the brief moment I had it before the light turned green and the Jeep Wrangler turned left down College Mall Road and out of my life.
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> It almost made me want to start dating again. Then I realized that it was all a lie, an illusion made to make me stumble off the good and true path set before me. Single life is the best life. It was then that I remembered what I hated most about dating: being a woman’s “accessory,”
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> I remembered being forced to hold hands or hook arms in public like I was some sort of bracelet or purse, and if I didn’t I was made to feel as though I had kicked a kitten. I remembered being forced to go to events, dragged along like I was when I was five years old and my mother used to make me go places I didn’t want to go to, and the temper tantrums and guilt trips laid down if I didn’t go along. I remembered being disrespected and violated time and again without fail, manipulated and lied to, touched and abused.
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> And then, when I broke things off, I was made out to be the bad guy. I was made out to be the evil genius who tore apart hearts and made girls cry. People lied and coerced about me because the “boy is always in the wrong” when it comes to love and dating.
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> No more of that. No thank you. Not again. Not for a while. Not until I can forgive myself others and get back to what is most important: loving my Lord with all my heart, mind, and strength. Because only when I love Him can I truly love another.

Here is my response.

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> It wasn’t a lie, it wasn’t an illusion made to do anything - it was just reality. Dating doesn’t mean you have to be a woman’s “accessory.” You’re not a bad guy or evil, it just sounds like you had a few bad relationships. That’s no reason to write off relationships, though. You need to banish these kind of self-defeating thoughts from your head. Your spirituality is a good thing but in my opinion it has nothing to do with this issue - this is a matter of you allowing other people to put you in a box and control your emotions. Don’t let them do it. You alone are the master of your life. You’re approaching this from a mentality of running away from something, whereas you should look at it as running _towards_ something - in this case, more fulfilling relationships. YOU have the power to make it better. Those beautiful girls you saw weren’t an illusion - they were your future, if you want it to be. A guy with a spirit as big as yours can’t be constrained to this kind of box.

No answer from him as to whether or not he thinks my advice is valuable. But beneath my comment, is another one, from a female friend of his:

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> B-  
> I like this note i like part where you say “Then I realized that it was all a lie, an illusion made to make me stumble off the good and true path set before me” I like it because that is what satan does he tries to take us off the path God has set for by his distractions…so it’s cool you recognized that! Peace!

That’s right. Flee from dating women because you had some bad experiences in the past, and then blame it all on SATAN! It’s beautiful out, there are beautiful girls driving around in Wranglers with the top down, and the heady summer smell of blooming trees and romantic excitement is just starting to fill the air - but no, for Christ’s sake don’t even think about maybe trying to go out there and, you know, have some experiences with women. Just wallow in your own self-pity and blame it all on the Devil.

I might expect this attitude from some neurotic little dork, but this guy is a big, hearty, jolly, all-around good natured and appealing guy. There is NOTHING stopping him from success with women except his own self-defeating attitude. The last thing on earth he needs is some mindless girl who actually believes in “Satan” to encourage his ideology.

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**Author:** ![Manduck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/manduck/32/256_2.png) [@Manduck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Manduck)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2008, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-right-its-satan-who-made-you-see-those-beautiful-girls-in-the-jeep-wrangler/441175/2 "2008-03-12T23:28:21Z")

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Of course it was Satan: hence the Colts decal.

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**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2008, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-right-its-satan-who-made-you-see-those-beautiful-girls-in-the-jeep-wrangler/441175/3 "2008-03-12T23:32:31Z")

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I wish more satan chicks would drive through _my_ neighborhood.

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**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2008, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-right-its-satan-who-made-you-see-those-beautiful-girls-in-the-jeep-wrangler/441175/4 "2008-03-12T23:46:00Z")

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And while we’re at it. could you send some nice warm spring-like weather _my_ way? It will cause the beautiful women to remove at least the hoods of their parkas.

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**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2008, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-right-its-satan-who-made-you-see-those-beautiful-girls-in-the-jeep-wrangler/441175/5 "2008-03-13T01:38:53Z")

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If Satan’s responsible for all the beautiful girls I see, Satan totally rocks.

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**Author:** ![Moirai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/96bed5/32.png) [@Moirai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moirai)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2008, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-right-its-satan-who-made-you-see-those-beautiful-girls-in-the-jeep-wrangler/441175/6 "2008-03-13T02:40:51Z")

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This really jumped out at me-

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> I remembered being disrespected and violated time and again without fail, manipulated and lied to, touched and abused.

:eek:

Um, this dude has some _issues_…

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2008, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-right-its-satan-who-made-you-see-those-beautiful-girls-in-the-jeep-wrangler/441175/7 "2008-03-13T03:28:31Z")

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Since they were probably lesbians, he doesn’t need to worry. They have no use for his accessories.

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**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2008, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-right-its-satan-who-made-you-see-those-beautiful-girls-in-the-jeep-wrangler/441175/8 "2008-03-13T13:00:17Z")

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Yeah, I think **EJsGirl** is right on. This guy sounds like he has more issues than the National Enquirer. I think the world’s population of single girls should give a collective sigh of relief that he’s now found shelter with the Lord instead of them. \< shudder \>

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2008, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-right-its-satan-who-made-you-see-those-beautiful-girls-in-the-jeep-wrangler/441175/9 "2008-03-13T13:03:50Z")

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Sounds like a psycho.

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2008, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-right-its-satan-who-made-you-see-those-beautiful-girls-in-the-jeep-wrangler/441175/10 "2008-03-13T14:18:14Z")

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Some people have some awfully strange ideas about dating. They become their own worst enemies because they refuse to see reality.

Being abused by women because they wanted to hold his hand? The poor, abused, maltreated dumbass. It’s probably a good thing that he isn’t giving his DNA a future.

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**Author:** ![Flander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8c91f0/32.png) [@Flander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flander)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2008, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-right-its-satan-who-made-you-see-those-beautiful-girls-in-the-jeep-wrangler/441175/11 "2008-03-13T14:19:17Z")

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[QUOTE=ultrafilter]  
If Satan’s responsible for all the beautiful girls I see, Satan totally rocks.  
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Praise Satan!

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**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2008, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-right-its-satan-who-made-you-see-those-beautiful-girls-in-the-jeep-wrangler/441175/12 "2008-03-13T14:31:35Z")

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> [@God-fearing](#):
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> I remembered being forced to go to events, dragged along like I was when I was five years old and my mother used to make me go places I didn’t want to go to, and the temper tantrums and guilt trips laid down if I didn’t go along.

His _mother_ used to through temper tantrums when he didn’t go along? :eek:

OK, I know it was just a run-on sentence, but I swear I read it that way first.

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**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2008, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-right-its-satan-who-made-you-see-those-beautiful-girls-in-the-jeep-wrangler/441175/13 "2008-03-13T14:31:39Z")

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I’m pissed at Satan now. He never once, during my peak years of sexual attractiveness, came to me and asked me to do anything to try and tempt a worthy Christian boy.

Apparently I wasn’t up to Satan’s standards.

To Hell with him.

So to speak.

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**Author:** ![Lust4Life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecc23a/32.png) [@Lust4Life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lust4Life)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2008, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-right-its-satan-who-made-you-see-those-beautiful-girls-in-the-jeep-wrangler/441175/14 "2008-03-13T14:38:02Z")

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I hope this bloke doesn’t work for the Post Office.

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**Author:** ![Miss\_Purl\_McKnittington](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@Miss\_Purl\_McKnittington](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miss_Purl_McKnittington)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2008, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-right-its-satan-who-made-you-see-those-beautiful-girls-in-the-jeep-wrangler/441175/15 "2008-03-13T14:39:41Z")

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> [@](#):
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> I remembered being forced to hold hands or hook arms in public like I was some sort of bracelet or purse, and if I didn’t I was made to feel as though I had kicked a kitten. I remembered being forced to go to events, dragged along like I was when I was five years old and my mother used to make me go places I didn’t want to go to, and the temper tantrums and guilt trips laid down if I didn’t go along. I remembered being disrespected and violated time and again without fail, manipulated and lied to, touched and abused.

I confess that there are some really heinous girls out there, but most of the guys in their twenties that I know who feel like this just want a girlfriend without doing anything with their girlfriend. So, they want someone who will bring them beer and watch them play X-Box, and let them touch her boobs now and then, but they don’t want to do anything their girlfriends want to do. There’s gotta be sacrifices running both ways, not just towards him.

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**Author:** ![Vihaga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Vihaga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vihaga)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2008, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-right-its-satan-who-made-you-see-those-beautiful-girls-in-the-jeep-wrangler/441175/16 "2008-03-13T14:41:28Z")

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> [@](#):
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> . It was then that I remembered what I hated most about dating: being a woman’s “accessory,”  
> I remembered being forced to hold hands or hook arms in public like I was some sort of bracelet or purse, and if I didn’t I was made to feel as though I had kicked a kitten.

So, the women he was dating wanted him to… hold hands? Why didn’t he call the police?

At least he’s speaking out so others can be spared the humiliation.

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**Author:** ![ZebraShaSha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/eada6e/32.png) [@ZebraShaSha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZebraShaSha)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2008, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-right-its-satan-who-made-you-see-those-beautiful-girls-in-the-jeep-wrangler/441175/17 "2008-03-13T14:42:19Z")

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I think all he needs is a nice proper Southern Baptist girl. You know the kind - “I’m saving myself for marriage, although, I’ve done everything up to and including ball gags, but that was a one, well, several time relapse that Jesus now forgives me for” or “I’m a virgin but I give the best head.” That’ll learn him.

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**Author:** ![Miss\_Purl\_McKnittington](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@Miss\_Purl\_McKnittington](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miss_Purl_McKnittington)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2008, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-right-its-satan-who-made-you-see-those-beautiful-girls-in-the-jeep-wrangler/441175/18 "2008-03-13T14:52:28Z")

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[QUOTE=CairoCarol]  
I’m pissed at Satan now. He never once, during my peak years of sexual attractiveness, came to me and asked me to do anything to try and tempt a worthy Christian boy.

Apparently I wasn’t up to Satan’s standards.

To Hell with him.

So to speak.  
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I know! I’m even an agnostic, so you think I’d be the perfect girl to lead a good Christian boy astray, what with my dithering.

Stupid Satan.

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**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2008, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-right-its-satan-who-made-you-see-those-beautiful-girls-in-the-jeep-wrangler/441175/19 "2008-03-13T14:53:12Z")

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[QUOTE=EJsGirl]  
This really jumped out at me-

:eek:

Um, this dude has some _issues_…  
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_Some_ issues?

He needs to see a whole team of doctors. Or a team of cheerleaders having an orgy, no wait, that’s what **I** need.

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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2008, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-right-its-satan-who-made-you-see-those-beautiful-girls-in-the-jeep-wrangler/441175/20 "2008-03-13T15:03:02Z")

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It was [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=249524&highlight=masturbate+fish) guy, wasn’t it? Now it all fits.

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