# That's what I get for having any opinion of soccer here! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 5, 2018, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-what-i-get-for-having-any-opinion-of-soccer-here/817311 "2018-07-05T03:18:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2018, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-what-i-get-for-having-any-opinion-of-soccer-here/817311/61 "2018-07-05T21:50:02Z")
> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#): > > Jerseys will plastered with shit like they are in Europe; for all we know the Yankees logo could eventually end up getting replaced by a fucking Depends logo. Yanks will be just about the last to do so. They have a brand new Stadium in this day and age and named it Yankee Stadium. They passed up a lot of money in naming rights. I think they are the only stadium under 20 years old to not to sell naming rights. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2018, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-what-i-get-for-having-any-opinion-of-soccer-here/817311/62 "2018-07-05T22:08:10Z")
Eh, soccer is boring. It’s boring because I never grew up with it, didn’t grow up in a soccer playing/viewing culture, and, iirc, never attended a school that had a soccer team until I went to UGA, and, as such, I have no feel or understanding of the game. In other words, it’s not soccer. It’s me. ---
**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2018, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-what-i-get-for-having-any-opinion-of-soccer-here/817311/63 "2018-07-05T22:15:34Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > I don’t hate soccer, but it’s hard to take seriously when it solves elimination games with those ridiculous shoot-outs. What a sorry-ass spectacle. The entire thing comes down to the goalie guessing correctly (or not.) Shoot-outs suck but sadly, no one has come up with a better way. There have been multiple threads here about so-called better ways to settle knockout matches. We toss them about and debate them but I’ve never seen a better answer here or elsewhere. It’s like democracy: “penalty shootouts are the worst way to decide a winner… except for all the others.” It is amusing to watch people who don’t seem to understand much about the game offer earnest and sincere suggestions for improving the settlement of draws in knockouts. Ideas like: perpetual extra-time periods until there’s a winner (or everyone is dead); corner kick contests;\* reducing\* the number of players at certain intervals; _increasing_ the width of the goal(!) at certain intervals… the loopiness goes on and on. ---
**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2018, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-what-i-get-for-having-any-opinion-of-soccer-here/817311/64 "2018-07-05T22:35:14Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > If you people like it, then it’s not a problem. I think it is for the casual viewer, though. You already have an extremely low-scoring sport wherein scores like 1-1 are routine. Penalty kicks just seem too consequential, especially given the inevitability of their success. It’s like an exciting, hard-fought game comes down to a round of Russian roulette. I know you need to put a check on bad behavior and I really don’t have a solution, but I watched that England vs. Colombia match and I was completely underwhelmed by the ending. The only truly boring part, really. Before it was changed to a penalty shootout they would draw lots to decide who advanced. I think most people—fans of the game or not—agree that penalties are an improvement over flipping a coin to decide who advances after a draw. It doesn’t affect the outcome of the game anyway in terms of a team’s record; the game is recorded as a draw. ---
**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2018, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-what-i-get-for-having-any-opinion-of-soccer-here/817311/65 "2018-07-05T22:52:27Z")
I should add there _is_ a better idea for settling a draw in a knockout round but it still involves a penalty shootout. It works exactly like the system in place now except the penalties are taken after the end of regular time (after 90 minutes). Then, two 15-minute halves of extra-time are played. If the game is still tied after extra-time the team the won the penalty shootout advances to the next round. This ratchets up the intensity in extra-time because the team that lost the penalties knows it will lose unless it can outscore their opponents on the field in ET. I’ve seen it called “The 90 Minute Penalty” but I don’t know if that is common. ---
**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2018, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-what-i-get-for-having-any-opinion-of-soccer-here/817311/66 "2018-07-05T23:11:45Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > Yanks will be just about the last to do so. They have a brand new Stadium in this day and age and named it Yankee Stadium. They passed up a lot of money in naming rights. I think they are the only stadium under 20 years old to not to sell naming rights. The Yankees name is itself a powerful brand. Essentially they _are_ selling advertising and naming rights, the’re just doing it with themselves instead of AmazonPepsi or FacebookBenz. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2018, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-what-i-get-for-having-any-opinion-of-soccer-here/817311/67 "2018-07-05T23:14:58Z")
> [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](#): > > The Yankees name is itself a powerful brand. Essentially they _are_ selling advertising and naming rights, the’re just doing it with themselves instead of AmazonPepsi or FacebookBenz. Fair enough. ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2018, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-what-i-get-for-having-any-opinion-of-soccer-here/817311/68 "2018-07-06T00:07:03Z")
> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#): > > /hopefully end of derail and back to what a remarkably terrifying bad guy **Novelty Bubble** is. > The horrors (yes, plural this time)…oh the horrors. Yeah, that’s about right, at least if football is concerned. I don’t participate in football threads much other than the last three WC threads, and **Novelty Bobble** has shown time and time again that he knows his shit about football. I’m almost all the time with him, and I’m a supporter of the fucking Panzers! ---
**Author:** ![jz78817](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jz78817/32/1028_2.png) [@jz78817](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jz78817)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2018, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-what-i-get-for-having-any-opinion-of-soccer-here/817311/69 "2018-07-06T00:21:40Z")
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > That’s just a page of Manchester United related images. I get nothing related to football when I google GIS, what does it stand for? Google Image Search ---
**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2018, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-what-i-get-for-having-any-opinion-of-soccer-here/817311/70 "2018-07-06T01:20:07Z")
> [@jz78817](#): > > Google Image Search **IMO** you should have spelled that out the first time. Please don’t make people have to ask you or someone else what your acronyms mean. Just because it’s a common acronym to you doesn’t mean it’s known to all. It just seems lazy. **USA, LOL, IMO,** and such are fine… things like \*\*GIS, AFM, WWCSF, \*\* or \*\* JLP \*\*are not. I’m sure all the kids are doing it but… no. Folks should either post from their big-boy computers with real keyboards or learn to type more betterly on their phones. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2018, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-what-i-get-for-having-any-opinion-of-soccer-here/817311/71 "2018-07-06T01:33:28Z")
JLP = Justice League of Peru? ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2018, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-what-i-get-for-having-any-opinion-of-soccer-here/817311/72 "2018-07-06T01:50:34Z")
OP is a snowflake. I salute his antagonist. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2018, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-what-i-get-for-having-any-opinion-of-soccer-here/817311/73 "2018-07-06T01:56:09Z")
I hate it when some people try to disparage footy by lumping players in with gynecologists, Long John Silver impersonators, and philosophers of the late nineteenth century Germany and ancient Greece. Egregious lumpism. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2018, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-what-i-get-for-having-any-opinion-of-soccer-here/817311/74 "2018-07-06T02:08:32Z")
> [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](#): > > It is amusing to watch people who don’t seem to understand much about the game offer earnest and sincere suggestions for improving the settlement of draws in knockouts. Ideas like: perpetual extra-time periods until there’s a winner (or everyone is dead); corner kick contests;\* reducing\* the number of players at certain intervals; _increasing_ the width of the goal(!) at certain intervals… the loopiness goes on and on. I gotta say, as an outsider, some of those solutions sound pretty awesome. More exciting than the shootouts, anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2018, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-what-i-get-for-having-any-opinion-of-soccer-here/817311/75 "2018-07-06T02:10:37Z")
> [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](#): > > It is amusing to watch people who don’t seem to understand much about the game offer earnest and sincere suggestions for improving the settlement of draws in knockouts. Ideas like: perpetual extra-time periods until there’s a winner (or everyone is dead); corner kick contests;\* reducing\* the number of players at certain intervals; _increasing_ the width of the goal(!) at certain intervals… the loopiness goes on and on. If I had my druthers I like would be to make the penalty shoot out more like a breakaway chance at goal. Ball starts a mid field, two forwards have 30 seconds to score against one defense-man and one goalie. If the time ends or the ball leaves the field of play the chance is over. Then the next team gets a try. First team to score an unanswered point wins. ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2018, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-what-i-get-for-having-any-opinion-of-soccer-here/817311/76 "2018-07-06T03:32:39Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > I gotta say, as an outsider, some of those solutions sound pretty awesome. More exciting than the shootouts, anyway. While I admire your Neymar like trolling skills; your criticism of soccer has all the intellectual vigor of something Trump would tweet. You are living up to your user name. ---
**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2018, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-what-i-get-for-having-any-opinion-of-soccer-here/817311/77 "2018-07-06T04:05:38Z")
> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#): > > and back to what a remarkably terrifying bad guy **Novelty Bubble** is. Too bloody right. A scrounger, a parasite, a pervert, a worm, a self-confessed player of the pink oboe, a man, who by his own admission, chews pillows. An insufferable Pommie bastard, made all the more insufferable because he knows his onions. Prick. Total Prick. Totally. And assuredly when an unreductable bounder and cad like **Novelty Bubble** decides to pull a stat from his arse it will be manifestly more insightful than the purile dross posted by the OP. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2018, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-what-i-get-for-having-any-opinion-of-soccer-here/817311/78 "2018-07-06T04:28:08Z")
> [@penultima\_thule](#): > > Prick. Total Prick. Totally. I don’t even think **Novelty Bubble** is his real name. ---
**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2018, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-what-i-get-for-having-any-opinion-of-soccer-here/817311/79 "2018-07-06T04:30:17Z")
The utter bastard! ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2018, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-what-i-get-for-having-any-opinion-of-soccer-here/817311/80 "2018-07-06T04:34:00Z")
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