# That's what I get for having any opinion of soccer here!

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**Created:** [July 5, 2018, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-what-i-get-for-having-any-opinion-of-soccer-here/817311 "2018-07-05T03:18:27Z")\
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**Post date:** [July 8, 2018, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-what-i-get-for-having-any-opinion-of-soccer-here/817311/101 "2018-07-08T01:13:39Z")

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No one got my ultra-hip Wim Wenders reference.☹

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2018, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-what-i-get-for-having-any-opinion-of-soccer-here/817311/102 "2018-07-08T02:24:14Z")

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> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#):
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> Also with penalty kicks - there’s always the concern of how much anxiety the goalie is experiencing.

> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#):
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> No one got my ultra-hip Wim Wenders reference.☹

Aaaaw, shucks, now in review I get it. Haven’t seen the film, though I’m a Wim Wenders fan, but of course I know the title, because it has a famous [literary source](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Goalie%27s_Anxiety_at_the_Penalty_Kick) by Peter Handke. Though I like the title of Sepp Maier’s autobiography even better: ["ich bin doch kein Tor.](https://www.amazon.de/Ich-bin-doch-kein-Tor/dp/3455088236)" (unbelievably bad untranslatable pun, and I like those. They’re harder to do in German than in English.)

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**Post date:** [July 8, 2018, 10:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-what-i-get-for-having-any-opinion-of-soccer-here/817311/103 "2018-07-08T10:17:05Z")

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Let’s agree that soccer is a boring game played by actors simply so Buckety Buck can get his panties in a twist.

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**Post date:** [July 8, 2018, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-what-i-get-for-having-any-opinion-of-soccer-here/817311/104 "2018-07-08T13:59:08Z")

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Yeah those diving crisis actors!

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**Post date:** [July 9, 2018, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/thats-what-i-get-for-having-any-opinion-of-soccer-here/817311/105 "2018-07-09T19:10:37Z")

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> [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](#):
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> I should add there _is_ a better idea for settling a draw in a knockout round but it still involves a penalty shootout. It works exactly like the system in place now except the penalties are taken after the end of regular time (after 90 minutes).
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> Then, two 15-minute halves of extra-time are played. If the game is still tied after extra-time the team the won the penalty shootout advances to the next round. This ratchets up the intensity in extra-time because the team that lost the penalties knows it will lose unless it can outscore their opponents on the field in ET.
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> I’ve seen it called “The 90 Minute Penalty” but I don’t know if that is common.

I don’t know if it’s ever been tried at the professional level, but it probably would be an improvement over the current system. The winner of the shootout has a huge incentive to simply defend, of course, but at least the loser has an incentive to attack - under the current system, ET quite often involves both teams playing defensively, as they are too worried about conceding.

> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> If I had my druthers I like would be to make the penalty shoot out more like a breakaway chance at goal. Ball starts a mid field, two forwards have 30 seconds to score against one defense-man and one goalie. If the time ends or the ball leaves the field of play the chance is over. Then the next team gets a try. First team to score an unanswered point wins.

This would take too long, I think - seems to me the 2 attackers have a big advantage. If you made it 2 attackers vs 2 defenders + GK instead, then the advantage swings too far the other way and there would be very few goals.

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