# The 0-16 NFL Season Thread, 2008 Edition

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [September 11, 2008, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125 "2008-09-11T17:59:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2008, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125/221 "2008-12-28T21:11:38Z")

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I had season tickets for over 20 years. I want my money back. I have driven Mercs and Fords and Lincolns. I want my money back. I spent a million dollars on overpriced beer.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2008, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125/222 "2008-12-28T21:16:00Z")

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Stealing our thunder. The Browns went 24 quarters without an offensive TD but all you’ll hear about is Detroit.

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**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2008, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125/223 "2008-12-28T21:16:14Z")

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Did you want the beer back? 😃

In other news: Bret Favre may retire. Or he may not. Stay tuned. :dubious:

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2008, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125/224 "2008-12-28T21:17:21Z")

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I want something. How about a competitive team.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2008, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125/225 "2008-12-28T21:18:33Z")

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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah sshit.

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**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2008, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125/226 "2008-12-28T21:19:02Z")

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You have a competitive team. It plays in Ann Arb…

Oh, wait, my bad.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2008, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125/227 "2008-12-28T21:19:45Z")

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So, next year they have to start 0-10 to break the record, right?

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**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2008, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125/228 "2008-12-28T21:25:58Z")

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Well, let’s set a record that’ll last forever. Let’s not win a game for three more years!

Woo!  
…Crap.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2008, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125/229 "2008-12-28T21:27:45Z")

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> [@DSYoungEsq](#):
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> You have a competitive team. It plays in Ann Arb…
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> Oh, wait, my bad.

Thats not funny.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2008, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125/230 "2008-12-28T21:34:44Z")

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> [@Frank](#):
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> So, next year they have to start 0-10 to break the record, right?

They lost their last game in 2007, so they’re on a 17-game losing streak. They’ve lost 23 out of 24. The Bucs lost their first 26, and were 2-26 over their first two years. Considering they were an expansion team and the Lions aren’t, I think Detroit’s achievement is on par with Tampa’s.

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2008, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125/231 "2008-12-28T21:44:02Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> They lost their last game in 2007, so they’re on a 17-game losing streak. They’ve lost 23 out of 24. The Bucs lost their first 26, and were 2-26 over their first two years. Considering they were an expansion team and the Lions aren’t, I think Detroit’s achievement is on par with Tampa’s.

I think it surpasses it already. Not being an expansion team and having had _seven_ top 10 picks in the previous 10 drafts makes for an epic feat of futility.

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**Author:** ![DadWagonDriver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/edb3f5/32.png) [@DadWagonDriver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DadWagonDriver)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2008, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125/232 "2008-12-28T21:51:15Z")

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> [@DSYoungEsq](#):
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> You have a competitive team. It plays in Ann Arb…
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> Oh, wait, my bad.

The cities you were thinking of are East Lansing, Mt. Pleasant, and Kalamazoo 😉

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2008, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125/233 "2008-12-28T22:52:44Z")

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> [@Omniscient](#):
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> I think it surpasses it already. Not being an expansion team and having had _seven_ top 10 picks in the previous 10 drafts makes for an epic feat of futility.

I am inclined to agree. It’s also worth noting that the Lions’ only win in that time comes against Kansas City, a team that’s been almost as bad as the Lions.

Probably I should’ve known about this weeks ago, but apparently Cleveland’s last offensive touchdown this season came in week 11, which indicates their offense or coaching could be just as bad as Detroit’s. But their coach and GM are almost certain to get fired.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2008, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125/234 "2008-12-28T23:10:15Z")

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> [@5-HT](#):
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> I’d be surprised if the lions come anywhere close to 0-16.

Surprise! 😉

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2008, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125/235 "2008-12-28T23:10:19Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Probably I should’ve known about this weeks ago, but apparently Cleveland’s last offensive touchdown this season came in week 11, which indicates their offense or coaching could be just as bad as Detroit’s. But their coach and GM are almost certain to get fired.

Maybe the Lions can hire Marvin Lewis, the Browns can hire Marinelli and the Bengals can hire Herm Edwards and the Chiefs can hire Crennel. Everyone’s happy!

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**Author:** ![5-HT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/f19dbf/32.png) [@5-HT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5-HT)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2008, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125/236 "2008-12-29T00:36:12Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Surprise! 😉

I admitted I was wrong about how bad the Lions are many weeks ago.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2008, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125/237 "2008-12-29T00:43:03Z")

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Detroit talk radio will be vicious the next few weeks. Our TV sports wrap ups will be fun.  
Can they possibly keep the coach? If he is broomed,we start all over and by the time they rebuild ,the few good players will bail. They would have to bring in a HUGE name coach to get the process working. I am not sure any one exists.  
Is Lombardi still dead?

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2008, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125/238 "2008-12-29T01:16:17Z")

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> [@](#):
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> I admitted I was wrong about how bad the Lions are many weeks ago.

You should have stuck with your original prediction. By next November you’ll be able to say you were right all along - 0-24 is nowhere close to 0-16.

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**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2008, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125/239 "2008-12-29T15:15:39Z")

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They did it!  
I thought for sure they would choke it all away with a win, perhaps even stage a two-score comeback in the final minutes.  
But no, they really, really did it.  
Congratulations.

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**Author:** ![ASAKMOTSD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/919ad9/32.png) [@ASAKMOTSD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASAKMOTSD)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2008, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125/240 "2008-12-29T17:17:17Z")

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Perhaps they can recruit from the JV team at Rochester Adams High School for next season.

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