# The 0-16 NFL Season Thread, 2008 Edition

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [September 11, 2008, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125 "2008-09-11T17:59:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125/21 "2008-09-12T06:10:39Z")

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> [@Kiros](#):
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> I know the Rams looked terrible last week, but I find it hard to believe that an offense featuring Bulger, Holt, and Jackson won’t manage at least one win when they’re in a division full of below-average teams.

The NFC West division winners, the Arizona Cardinals, are not a below average team.

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**Author:** ![WoodenTaco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/45deac/32.png) [@WoodenTaco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WoodenTaco)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125/22 "2008-09-12T06:28:06Z")

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> [@dalej42](#):
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> The NFC West division winners, the Arizona Cardinals, are not a below average team.

Whoa! Is that a _cardinalis faveoris_, better known as the elusive Cardinals Fan? I never thought I’d actually see one in the wild!  
So, the Rams are the clear winner, although the Falcons are pretty bad. I’m surprised the OP listed the Texans as one of the competing teams - they aren’t too bad this year, and I’d expect to see them in the 8-8 range.

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**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125/23 "2008-09-12T15:07:08Z")

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**Dalej42** , even as a 49er fan I think the Cardinals will win the NFC West this year, but the 9-7 record they’ll use to get to the playoffs doesn’t make them an above-average team. (They might still get to the second round because the NFC sucks.)

Games this week:  
(Team in bold still winless)  
**Miami Dolphins** at Arizona Cardinals  
Pittsburgh Steelers at **Cleveland Browns**  
Tennessee Titans at **Cincinnati Bengals**  
Buffalo Bills at **Jacksonville Jaguars** (game of the week)  
Baltimore Ravens at **Houston Texans**  
**San Diego Chargers** at Denver Broncos  
New Orleans Saints at **Washington Redskins**  
Green Bay Packers at **Detroit Lions**  
Atlanta Falcons at **Tampa Bay Buccaneers**  
New York Giants at **St. Louis Rams**

Games this week pitting two winless teams against each other:  
**San Francisco 49ers** at **Seattle Seahawks**  
**Oakland Raiders** at **Kansas City Chiefs**  
**Indianapolis Colts** at **Minnesota Vikings**

My picks for teams eliminated this week from a chance at 0-16:  
Chargers, 49ers, Chiefs, Vikings

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**Author:** ![cards](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecd19e/32.png) [@cards](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cards)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125/24 "2008-09-12T17:52:24Z")

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Another vote for the Rams. I watched the ENTIRE FUCKING GAME. They are bad. It was like watching a terrible accident, I couldn’t pull my eyes away. You would think that with the offensive talent they have they would be better. But you have to actually pass the ball to Holt for him to do anything. Jackson will be useless after the first quarter because the Reams will have to constantly pass to get back in it. When that happens, Bulger will get happy feet and make bad throws or he’ll be sacked.

Oh and our punter? He punted so often last week that his non-kicking knee is sore from coming down on it after his punting motion.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125/25 "2008-09-12T19:42:07Z")

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> [@garygnu](#):
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> the NFC sucks.

This is a myth that hasn’t been true since 2006.

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**Author:** ![picker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/picker/32/13969_2.png) [@picker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/picker)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125/26 "2008-09-12T20:12:21Z")

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All of the following have a legitimate possibility of being inept enough to lose **every freakin’ game** :

Lions  
Rams  
Chiefs  
Raiders  
The Rams look the worst overall, ironically with the largest group of ‘name’ players.

My predictions:

Lions @ 2-14  
**Rams** @ 0-16  
Chiefs @ 3-13  
Raiders @2-14

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**Author:** ![Stringer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Stringer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringer)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2008, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125/27 "2008-09-13T03:18:13Z")

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> [@garygnu](#):
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> the NFC sucks

The NFC West sucks. The Cardinals could win that division with 7 wins.

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**Author:** ![Kiros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/439d5e/32.png) [@Kiros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kiros)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2008, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125/28 "2008-09-13T03:47:35Z")

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> [@dalej42](#):
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> The NFC West division winners, the Arizona Cardinals, are not a below average team.

I agree with half of this statement: none of the, oh, twenty or twenty-two teams that I’d say offhand are equal to or better than the Cardinals play in the NFC West.

I could definitely see them winning that division at 8-8 or maybe even 9-7.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2008, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125/29 "2008-09-13T04:25:42Z")

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The Lions gave up 320 yds on the ground to the Falcons. If that keeps up we wont see the ball enough. Dead meat.

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**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2008, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125/30 "2008-09-13T13:24:28Z")

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> [@WoodenTaco](#):
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> Whoa! Is that a _cardinalis faveoris_, better known as the elusive Cardinals Fan? I never thought I’d actually see one in the wild!  
> So, the Rams are the clear winner, although the Falcons are pretty bad. I’m surprised the OP listed the Texans as one of the competing teams - they aren’t too bad this year, and I’d expect to see them in the 8-8 range.

I’d bet a lot of money the Falcons don’t go 0-16.

Until Houston wins a game,they are a competing team.(though I agree they have a decent team.)

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2008, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125/31 "2008-09-14T00:31:35Z")

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> [@dalej42](#):
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> Probably the Bengals or the Raiders.
> 
> Neither coach has control of the team. Similar to the Dolphins last year.
> 
> Since I have to pick one, I’ll take the Bengals. The Raiders get to play the terrible Chiefs twice.
> 
> Marvin Lewis doesn’t have control of the Bengals and Chad Johnson is going to be a pain in the ass until he gets out of there.

The Bengals have too much talent on offense to go 0-16, despite their poor showing against the Ravens (with a little sideline help from Big Willie Anderson).

Also, please don’t wish them to be winless, as it may mean my untimely demise!

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2008, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125/32 "2008-09-14T02:46:14Z")

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Mark your calendars for November 30. Miami at St. Louis.

An epic in the making.

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**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2008, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125/33 "2008-09-14T20:05:21Z")

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Damn it must suck to be Justin Fargas…

or a Kansas City Chief.

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2008, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125/34 "2008-09-14T20:29:21Z")

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Wow, the Raiders played REALLY well. I am a happy fan. They were tight and well co-ordinated. They are still young but I don’t have the misgivings about the coach or QB that I had after last week. 😃 They did almost snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, but they wouldn’t be the Raiders if they didn’t flirt with giving up a sure win.

Can I change my pick to the chiefs for 0-16?

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**Author:** ![Stuffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f17d59/32.png) [@Stuffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stuffy)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2008, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125/35 "2008-09-14T23:59:22Z")

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> [@NAF1138](#):
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> Wow, the Raiders played REALLY well. I am a happy fan. They were tight and well co-ordinated. They are still young but I don’t have the misgivings about the coach or QB that I had after last week. 😃 They did almost snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, but they wouldn’t be the Raiders if they didn’t flirt with giving up a sure win.
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> Can I change my pick to the chiefs for 0-16?

I saw that game too and I agree with you, the Raiders played much better than I expected.

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**Author:** ![gravitycrash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@gravitycrash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gravitycrash)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125/36 "2008-09-15T02:29:39Z")

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I also have to vote for the RAMS. These guys really suck. Bulger is done. He is the poster child for deer in the headlights look.:eek:  
The good news is that we will get the number one draft pick.

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**Author:** ![Library\_Boy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/cab0a1/32.png) [@Library\_Boy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Library_Boy)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125/37 "2008-09-15T04:48:39Z")

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> [@5-HT](#):
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> Not a chance. They have plenty of talent on offense and will run into at least one team that can’t score enough points to beat them.
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> I’d be surprised if the lions come anywhere close to 0-16.

Well, it’s true that Kitna throws many touchdown passes, but the ones to the other team don’t count.

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**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125/38 "2008-09-15T17:19:03Z")

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> [@NAF1138](#):
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> I am a Raiders fan through and through. Go Raiders!

I didn’t know you were a Raiders fan. Lucky for you I died last Night in the Mafia game or I would totally be voting for you.😉

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125/39 "2008-09-15T17:45:11Z")

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I’m starting to think that the Lions just might be able to pull this off.

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**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125/40 "2008-09-15T17:47:43Z")

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> [@ShibbOleth](#):
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> I’m starting to think that the Lions just might be able to pull this off.

SF may be their only shot next week.

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