# The 0-16 NFL Season Thread, 2008 Edition

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [September 11, 2008, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125 "2008-09-11T17:59:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![RogueRacer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7ab992/32.png) [@RogueRacer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RogueRacer)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2008, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125/61 "2008-09-22T17:51:30Z")

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For years I’ve been wondering how Matt Millen still has a job in Detroit. That hasn’t changed at all this year.

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**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2008, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125/62 "2008-09-22T21:57:52Z")

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> [@Drain\_Bead](#):
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> At this point I think it’s between the Rams and the Chiefs. I have to think the Lions will manage a win _somewhere_.

Probably. My typical prediction, which has never been wrong, is that the Lions will win just enough games to avoid getting the first pick in the draft. That’s just how much they excel at failing. They even fail to completely fail.

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**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2008, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125/63 "2008-09-23T16:47:32Z")

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And they drop like flies…

Cleveland Browns  
Cincinnati Bengals  
Houston Texans  
Kansas City Chiefs  
Detroit Lions  
St. Louis Rams

I was right about home teams winning except for one major turd laid down by the Patriots. (This caused my demise in the SDMB Survival League.)  
Since the Rams, Chiefs and Lions don’t play each other, we may have two or three winless teams.

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**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2008, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125/64 "2008-09-23T18:17:22Z")

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> [@garygnu](#):
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> Since the Rams, Chiefs and Lions don’t play each other, we may have two or three winless teams.

Well, let’s thank God for small favors. After spending Sunday watching the Chiefs and then the Rams back-to-back I can’t imagine having to watch them play each other…

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**Author:** ![Carl\_Corey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Carl\_Corey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carl_Corey)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2008, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125/65 "2008-09-23T20:18:24Z")

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> [@Jas09](#):
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> Well, let’s thank God for small favors. After spending Sunday watching the Chiefs and then the Rams back-to-back I can’t imagine having to watch them play each other…

You poor bastard.

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2008, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125/66 "2008-09-23T20:54:08Z")

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Today the Rams announced they will bench Mark Bulger and start Trent Green at QB.

This is not exactly like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. It’s more like replacing the wine steward on the Titanic.

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**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2008, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125/67 "2008-09-23T21:08:01Z")

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> [@kunilou](#):
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> Today the Rams announced they will bench Mark Bulger and start Trent Green at QB…

With that O-line? They want to give him another concussion, don’t they?

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**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2008, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125/68 "2008-09-23T21:20:40Z")

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Somehow I have trouble looking at them play and thinking “ya’know, if they replace Bulger with a 38 year old concussion-waiting-to-happen everything will be all better”. I suppose at least they are trying _something_. not that it will help.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2008, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125/69 "2008-09-23T23:03:53Z")

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> [@Harborwolf](#):
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> Probably. My typical prediction, which has never been wrong, is that the Lions will win just enough games to avoid getting the first pick in the draft. That’s just how much they excel at failing. They even fail to completely fail.

Actually they draft so badly that getting first pick is bad. They pay a ton for a player who disappears in 2 years. Can I interest you in a slightly used Charles Rogers.  
LIon picks  
Mike Williams,Roy Williams,Kevin Jones,Rogers,Harrington

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**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2008, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125/70 "2008-09-23T23:27:22Z")

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> [@Asimovian](#):
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> As for the police arrest, I was at the game in '90 against the Steelers were a Pittsburgh fan was beaten unconscious – the game that started the alcohol ban at the Coliseum. It’s hard to be a Raider’s fan for a whole lot of reasons.

I saw the same thing at Ravens stadium. Bastard spat on the Johnny Unitas statue outside the front gate as he was walking by. His face was turning back forward after spitting when it met the elbow of a Ravens fan right to the side of his jaw. He dropped like female Steeler fans panties drop when they hear the hiss of an IC Light being cracked.

And all of us coming behind stepped right on him and kept on going.

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**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2008, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125/71 "2008-09-24T01:58:33Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> Actually they draft so badly that getting first pick is bad. They pay a ton for a player who disappears in 2 years. Can I interest you in a slightly used Charles Rogers.  
> LIon picks  
> Mike Williams,Roy Williams,Kevin Jones,Rogers,Harrington

Ah, but those are first round picks and not the first pick. Usually by the time the draft rolls around, the first pick is completely easy and obvious. The Lions wind up with picks that aren’t as obvious and have that whole “draft a messiah” strategy of trying to find the one magic player that will turn the team around.

At this point, I’d rather have the Lions trade first overall pick in the draft in exchange for multiple picks and start rebuilding the team rather than taking another bloody wide reciever.

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**Author:** ![5-HT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/f19dbf/32.png) [@5-HT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5-HT)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2008, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125/72 "2008-09-24T02:23:07Z")

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> [@Drain\_Bead](#):
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> At this point I think it’s between the Rams and the Chiefs. I have to think the Lions will manage a win _somewhere_.

This was exactly my thinking when I made my first post in this thread. I’m really starting to doubt my analysis now. I’ve never seen them so completely and utterly inept as they are this year.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2008, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125/73 "2008-09-24T02:33:08Z")

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Romeo Crennel.

Burn the motherfucker down.

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**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125/74 "2008-09-26T19:08:55Z")

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Cleveland Browns - worst offense in the league with 8.7 points/game and 194 yards/game. lowest passing % and fewest passing yards. 0 rushing TD’s

Cincinnati Bengals - Only one sack by the defense through three games. 0 INT. 1 passing TD on offense

Houston Texans - 5 INT thrown and 8 sacks taken in only two games.

Kansas City Chiefs - Only two sacks by the defense through three games. 0 INT

Detroit Lions - Worst run defense giving up 207.7 yards/game, 2nd worst for points and total yards. Worst turnover +/- at -5. 0 INT

St. Louis Rams - fewest first downs per game, worst 3rd down conversion at a paltry 22.2%. Last in rushing at only 56.3 yards/game. 0 rushing TD’s  
Worst defense in the league giving up 38.7 point/game and 456.7 yards/game. 0 INT.

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**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2008, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125/75 "2008-09-27T03:33:42Z")

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But the Rams are starting Green and signed another broken down former Saint to the defense! That will make it all better!😃

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**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2008, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125/76 "2008-09-29T18:42:19Z")

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In a showdown battle, the Cincinnati Bengals showed a greater dedication to failure than even the Browns. Meanwhile, the Chiefs inexplicitly beat the Broncos in a show of Karmic retribution from two weeks ago.

Things in St. Louis are so bad they fired their head coach without even waiting for Al Davis to fire Lane Kiffen.

The Houston Texans managed to buckle down and lose in overtime, after tying it late and putting their winlessness at risk.

The Lions made sure the firing of Millen wasn’t in vain by not losing.

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**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2008, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125/77 "2008-09-29T19:15:11Z")

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No matter what they do, it looks like the RAMS have a lock on the run to 0-16.

They even have ATL as thier last game so they can’t even count on a pity win over a team playing thier third string in the final week. Not that they could beat most other NFL third strings right now, i.e. Seattle.

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**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2008, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125/78 "2008-09-29T23:08:55Z")

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> [@garygnu](#):
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> The Lions made sure the firing of Millen wasn’t in vain by not losing.

I’m betting the Lions will break the winless streak this week. In the abusive relationship that is the Detroit Lions season, we’re now in the “See baby? I’ve changed. We can make this work. Please let me out of this restraining order.”

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**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2008, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125/79 "2008-09-29T23:28:11Z")

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> [@garygnu](#):
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> Meanwhile, the Chiefs inexplicitly beat the Broncos in a show of Karmic retribution from two weeks ago.

The Chiefs choked hard this week winning such an easily-losable game.

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**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2008, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125/80 "2008-10-01T06:07:11Z")

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So, who is left?

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