# The 0-16 NFL Season Thread, 2008 Edition **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [September 11, 2008, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125 "2008-09-11T17:59:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125/121 "2008-12-10T13:13:20Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > I think the Lions will have a decent shot with the Pack eliminated and having a short week to prepare and bad weather in Lambeau could actually do more to hurt the Pack’s passing game (we’ve never seen Rodgers throw in the cold) than it would the Lions. Would anyone be shocked by a 10-9 final? I would be shocked by a 10-9 final.Lions D given up 10(or 9) points? C’mon. and i disagree with the notion that the Pack has nothing to play for.Would you wanna be the only team the Lions beat?No. The Pack will be extremely motivated IMO. I also think the Lions have a better shot at beating the Saints than the Pack. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125/122 "2008-12-10T13:45:22Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > (aside from Cinci, who everyone just laughs at or feels sorry for) I’m hard pressed to believe that a Browns fan just typed this statement. Last season was your best record since 1994 at 10-6. The Bengals were 11-5 in 2005. Your last playoff appearance was what, 2002 at 9-7? The Bengals made the playoffs more recently (2005). The Browns also have never been to a Superbowl, and the Bengals have twice. Now, the Bengals are one of the worst teams in football right now, and were the worst team in football throughout the early 1990’s until early 2000’s. However, the two franchises are pretty parallel in suckitude. “They” are laughing at your team, too. And your squad sucks almost as bad as mine this season, and you can’t even really use injuries as an excuse. The Bengals have 22 people on IR, many of them starters. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125/123 "2008-12-10T20:02:35Z")
The Browns, despite missing 4 seasons, and being being horrible for years while suffering through an expansion period deliberately crippled by the NFL, still have more wins since 1990 than the Bengals. I’m just going by what I know from other AFC North fans (both on message boards in IRL) - even though the Browns are mostly bad, there’s still plenty of Steelers-Browns and Ravens-Browns animosity. As well as Ravens-Steelers. But almost no one speaks of Cincinatti in the same terms. ---
**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2008, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125/124 "2008-12-11T00:53:09Z")
> [@MadTheSwine](#): > > I would be shocked by a 10-9 final.Lions D given up 10(or 9) points? C’mon. > > and i disagree with the notion that the Pack has nothing to play for.Would you wanna be the only team the Lions beat?No. > > The Pack will be extremely motivated IMO. IIRC, Minnesota said the same thing before Sundays game. _Nobody_ wants to be the team that loses to the Lions. That’s motivation enough. It doesn’t matter what your status is with regards to the playoffs. You don’t want to the the team that gives the game to what is possibly the worst team in NFL history. And does anyone see the Colts, Saints, or Packers doing any more to give a game away that Minnesota did last week? And the Lions still managed to lose. I’m as bitter about the Lions consistent failure at failing, but I just can’t see how they’ll win a game. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2008, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125/125 "2008-12-11T01:33:00Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > The Browns, despite missing 4 seasons, and being being horrible for years while suffering through an expansion period deliberately crippled by the NFL, still have more wins since 1990 than the Bengals. > > I’m just going by what I know from other AFC North fans (both on message boards in IRL) - even though the Browns are mostly bad, there’s still plenty of Steelers-Browns and Ravens-Browns animosity. As well as Ravens-Steelers. But almost no one speaks of Cincinatti in the same terms. Soooo, what you’re saying is that the Browns are the “slightly less red-headed stepchild of the division”, then? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![brownie55](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f14d63/32.png) [@brownie55](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brownie55)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2008, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125/126 "2008-12-11T17:30:52Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > I’m hard pressed to believe that a Browns fan just typed this statement. Last season was your best record since 1994 at 10-6. The Bengals were 11-5 in 2005. > > Your last playoff appearance was what, 2002 at 9-7? The Bengals made the playoffs more recently (2005). > > The Browns also have never been to a Superbowl, and the Bengals have twice. > > Now, the Bengals are one of the worst teams in football right now, and were the worst team in football throughout the early 1990’s until early 2000’s. > > However, the two franchises are pretty parallel in suckitude. “They” are laughing at your team, too. And your squad sucks almost as bad as mine this season, and you can’t even really use injuries as an excuse. The Bengals have 22 people on IR, many of them starters. Of course the Browns have been to a Super Bowl; they just went in disguise as the Baltimore Ravens. ---
**Author:** ![fiddlesticks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddlesticks/32/18129_2.png) [@fiddlesticks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fiddlesticks)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2008, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125/127 "2008-12-11T17:58:34Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > I think the Lions will have a decent shot with the Pack eliminated and having a short week to prepare and bad weather in Lambeau could actually do more to hurt the Pack’s passing game (we’ve never seen Rodgers throw in the cold) than it would the Lions. Would anyone be shocked by a 10-9 final? It was 6 degrees at kickoff for the game against Houston last week, so we’ve already seen Rodgers’ first effort in the really bitter stuff. He was pretty lousy in the first half and better in the second…but it was the defense that lost the game. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2008, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125/128 "2008-12-11T19:00:36Z")
Note: The Lions do not know who QB will be this week. It will not be pretty. Hanson has had very few reps this season. If he gets hurt it should be fun. Stanton is trying it out but his broken fingers are on his throwing hand. Culpepper is still waiting for MRI to see if he can play. QB depth chart is empty. ---
**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2008, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125/129 "2008-12-11T19:11:22Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > Note: > The Lions do not know who QB will be this week. It will not be pretty. Hanson has had very few reps this season. If he gets hurt it should be fun. Stanton is trying it out but his broken fingers are on his throwing hand. Culpepper is still waiting for MRI to see if he can play. > QB depth chart is empty. Jason Hanson! ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2008, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125/130 "2008-12-11T21:11:55Z")
Henson sorry. But he may be next.The cupboard is bare. ---
**Author:** ![5-HT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/f19dbf/32.png) [@5-HT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5-HT)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2008, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125/131 "2008-12-11T21:29:08Z")
The truly scary/awesome/hilarious thing is that even now, I’m not entirely sure that the Bengals are better than the Lions. There are some amazingly awful teams this year. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2008, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125/132 "2008-12-12T00:16:09Z")
> [@5-HT](#): > > The truly scary/awesome/hilarious thing is that even now, I’m not entirely sure that the Bengals are better than the Lions. There are some amazingly awful teams this year. I’m not sure they are better than the Lions either. The Lions have a better RB and can actually muster some points in their losing efforts. The Bengals have scored _exactly_ 6 points on two FG’s in their last two games, and haven’t scored a TD in 11 quarters of play. Now _that’s_ how you show offensive ineptitude! ---
**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2008, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125/133 "2008-12-12T00:43:47Z")
No! Our team sucks more! ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2008, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125/134 "2008-12-12T01:16:18Z")
I resent that. The Lions have earned their disdain. The Bengals have won and come close a few times. They could wind up with 4 wins. ---
**Author:** ![5-HT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/f19dbf/32.png) [@5-HT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5-HT)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2008, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125/135 "2008-12-12T01:28:38Z")
I think the bengals have given up though. The last two games they have been so worthless they might as well have not shown up at all. The Lions, for all their failure, are still trying. for whatever that’s worth. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2008, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125/136 "2008-12-12T01:30:39Z")
Colts must be favored by at least 3 or 4. ---
**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2008, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125/137 "2008-12-12T01:39:39Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > Colts must be favored by at least 3 or 4. Touchdowns? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2008, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125/138 "2008-12-12T02:02:24Z")
> [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](#): > > Touchdowns? Super Bowls. ---
**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2008, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125/139 "2008-12-12T03:21:48Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Super Bowls. Winning seasons? No, wait, that’s in powers of ten. ---
**Author:** ![ZenBeam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/3ab097/32.png) [@ZenBeam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZenBeam)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2008, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125/140 "2008-12-12T03:32:59Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > Note: > The Lions do not know who QB will be this week. It will not be pretty. Hanson has had very few reps this season. If he gets hurt it should be fun. Stanton is trying it out but his broken fingers are on his throwing hand. Culpepper is still waiting for MRI to see if he can play. > QB depth chart is empty. Channel 2 just said it’s Dan Orlovsky at QB. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-16-nfl-season-thread-2008-edition/463125.md?page=8)