# The 0-17 NFL season, 2024 edition - Who'll be football's White Sox? **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** football-nfl\ **Created:** [September 5, 2024, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-17-nfl-season-2024-edition-wholl-be-footballs-white-sox/1006828 "2024-09-05T16:53:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2024, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-17-nfl-season-2024-edition-wholl-be-footballs-white-sox/1006828/21 "2024-09-23T17:50:28Z")
Several teams took themselves out of the 0-17 sweepstakes yesterday, including the Andy Dalton-led Panthers, who stomped the Raiders in Vegas. Carolina scored a TD on its opening drive, the first time that’s happened in 20 games. Still alive in the race to the winless bottom are the Bengals, Jags, and Titans. However, both the Bengals and Jags play tonight; the Bengals are 7-point favorites over the Commanders, while the Jags are 5 1/2 point dogs to the Bills. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2024, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-17-nfl-season-2024-edition-wholl-be-footballs-white-sox/1006828/22 "2024-09-23T18:54:02Z")
I guess since Dalton is the Ginger Messiah of Carolina, they might at least improve to mediocrity (like an 8-9 record or something). Out of the three teams still winless, I’d say the Titans are the ones most likely to be the bottom. There are decent QBs in Cincinnati and Jacksonville. They are bound to win a few games at least. I don’t have much faith in Will Levis. Whether it’s his fault or not, he’s just not doing that great and hasn’t proved himself yet. > **[Brian Callahan sticking with Will Levis as Tennessee Titans starting QB...](https://www.tennessean.com/story/sports/nfl/titans/2024/09/22/will-levis-tennessee-titans-starting-quarterback-brian-callahan/75279430007/)** > > Tennessee Titans coach Brian Callahan said Sunday that Will Levis will remain the starting quarterback even as the team is winless. He’s probably not the only or biggest problem, though I’d have said Bryce Young wasn’t the problem in Carolina before they put in Andy Dalton and seemed to instantly transform into a team that can score. So, maybe he _is_ the problem. Either way, they don’t have a leader who can turn it around in a second year struggling QB who keeps getting sacked and turning the ball over. So my prediction now is that if any team ends the year 0-17 it would be Tennessee. Unless Burrow or Lawrence get hurt, then what I said about Levis would also apply to Mac Jones or Jake Browning. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2024, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-17-nfl-season-2024-edition-wholl-be-footballs-white-sox/1006828/23 "2024-09-23T20:45:31Z")
The Giants don’t look good but they don’t look horrible. Nabors is the real deal and their run game with Singletary isn’t bad. They should be 2-1 instead of 1-2. They would have won last week if the coach had activated a backup kicker when it was obvious theirs wasn’t at 100%. They even had an open roster spot. They won’t beat really good teams but they were never a candidate for an ofer ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2024, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-17-nfl-season-2024-edition-wholl-be-footballs-white-sox/1006828/24 "2024-09-24T00:56:47Z")
Two of the three teams still fighting for perfection are in action tonight, but not against each other, with two MNF games. The Bills are making the Jaguars look like they could run away with this. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2024, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-17-nfl-season-2024-edition-wholl-be-footballs-white-sox/1006828/25 "2024-09-24T01:10:13Z")
> [@garygnu](#): > > The Bills are making the Jaguars look like they could run away with this. 34-3 at halftime. That is a definition of an ass-kicking. Meanwhile, the Commanders lead the winless Bengals 14-10 in the second quarter. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2024, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-17-nfl-season-2024-edition-wholl-be-footballs-white-sox/1006828/26 "2024-09-24T01:31:11Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > > [@garygnu](#): > > > > The Bills are making the Jaguars look like they could run away with this. > > 34-3 at halftime. That is a definition of an ass-kicking. > > Meanwhile, the Commanders lead the winless Bengals 14-10 in the second quarter. Yeah the Jags look really bad. The Bengals shouldn’t be this bad. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2024, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-17-nfl-season-2024-edition-wholl-be-footballs-white-sox/1006828/27 "2024-09-24T02:50:27Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > The Bengals shouldn’t be this bad. I was wondering why they were so bad and the announcers talked about the Bengals being so thin on defense. They have one LB signed off the street a week ago. I can see that. Burrow and Chase look good but you can’t win games without a defense. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2024, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-17-nfl-season-2024-edition-wholl-be-footballs-white-sox/1006828/28 "2024-09-24T03:05:11Z")
Fun fact: The Washington/Cincinnati game was the first NFL game since 1940 with no turnovers or punts. Also, Jayden Daniels broke the rookie completion percentage record for a game, by a pretty big margin. ---
**Author:** ![jnglmassiv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f07891/32.png) [@jnglmassiv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jnglmassiv)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2024, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-17-nfl-season-2024-edition-wholl-be-footballs-white-sox/1006828/29 "2024-09-24T18:55:51Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > since Dalton is the Ginger Messiah of Carolina Lol, I can’t wait to use that later today. ---
**Author:** ![zimaane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a3d4f5/32.png) [@zimaane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zimaane)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2024, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-17-nfl-season-2024-edition-wholl-be-footballs-white-sox/1006828/30 "2024-10-01T14:27:17Z")
The Jacksonville Jaguars are now the only winless team. Three of their four losses were in close games, so I’d guess they’ll get a W soon. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2024, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-17-nfl-season-2024-edition-wholl-be-footballs-white-sox/1006828/31 "2024-10-01T17:22:33Z")
They are actually favored by 2.5 points over the Colts in Jacksonville on Sunday. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2024, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-17-nfl-season-2024-edition-wholl-be-footballs-white-sox/1006828/32 "2024-10-01T22:04:09Z")
To be fair, Jacksonville has owned our asses the last few years. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2024, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-17-nfl-season-2024-edition-wholl-be-footballs-white-sox/1006828/33 "2024-10-06T20:11:07Z")
Yep-Jags just won their 1st, so no 0-fer watch here this year. ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2024, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-17-nfl-season-2024-edition-wholl-be-footballs-white-sox/1006828/34 "2024-10-06T23:27:01Z")
Booo! And so early in the season, too. Let’s keep the studying about ineptitude going, though. The Mets failed at failing, too. ---
**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2024, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-17-nfl-season-2024-edition-wholl-be-footballs-white-sox/1006828/35 "2024-10-07T13:33:15Z")
The NFL gives poorly-performing teams so many advantages, and has such a strict cap structure, that it’s very hard to be zero-win team. It takes an amazing number of mistakes in player selection, terrible coaching, and really bad luck to pull off something like what the Browns did from 2015-2017 and only get 4 wins in 3 years (and only 1 win combined in two of those years). Of course the Browns are showing us all once again how good they are at making bad decisions. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2024, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-17-nfl-season-2024-edition-wholl-be-footballs-white-sox/1006828/36 "2024-10-08T02:07:41Z")
> [@Jas09](#): > > Of course the Browns are showing us all once again how good they are at making bad decisions. I will never forget when this happened. > **[Report: Browns' Failure to Copy NFL on Email Led to Failed AJ McCarron Trade](https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2741922-report-browns-failure-to-copy-nfl-on-email-led-to-failed-aj-mccarron-trade.amp.html)** > > The Cleveland Browns ' front office failed to include the NFL in any communications with the Cincinnati Bengals about a proposed deal for quarterback AJ McCarron before Tuesday's trade deadline, which caused the agreement to fall through... [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-0-17-nfl-season-2024-edition-wholl-be-footballs-white-sox/1006828.md?page=1)