# The 100 Most Influential People - Try the Third

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**Created:** [April 14, 2010, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-100-most-influential-people-try-the-third/536080 "2010-04-14T16:58:22Z")\
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**Author:** ![Uncle\_Goat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Uncle\_Goat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncle_Goat)\
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> [@Skammer](#):
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> But as a matter of fact, I very well may end up voting for Jesus before Paul; I think Paul had a much bigger role in the formation and growth of the church in the long run even if he understood himself to be submitting to the will of Jesus.

Pretty much agree there. the final round for religion will be a coin toss between  
Mohammed and Paul, but Jesus is in the top three! I would have ranked him lower if Luther and Augustine were still around, but I’m a sucker for actual physical evidence.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2010, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-100-most-influential-people-try-the-third/536080/402 "2010-05-21T15:12:30Z")

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Last day for round 13…

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**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\
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Invention: Joseph Lister  
Leaders: Josef Stalin  
Philosophy: William Shakespeare  
Religion: St. Paul  
Science: Max Planck

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**Post date:** [May 22, 2010, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-100-most-influential-people-try-the-third/536080/404 "2010-05-22T20:28:27Z")

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Round 13 is over!

**Category, Name, Number of Votes**

I, Joseph Lister, 11  
L, Mao Zedong, 5  
P, Francis Bacon, 4  
R, Buddha, 8  
S, John Dalton, 9

Names Remaining:

**Inventors**

Alexander Fleming, Scientist, Invented Penicillin  
Antony van Leeuwenhoek, Scientist, Inventor of Microscope  
Edward Jenner, Scientist, Developed Vaccination for Smallpox  
James Watt, British Scientist, Invented Steam Engine  
Johann Gutenberg, Scientist, Inventor of Printing Press  
Thomas Edison, American Scientist, 1,000+ inventions  
Ts’ai Lun, Scientist, Inventor of Paper

**Leaders**

Augustus Caesar, Roman Princep, Founded Roman Empire  
Genghis Khan, Mongol Ruler, Founded Mongol Empire  
George Washington, American Statesman and General, Fought For Independence of United States  
Josef Stalin, Dictator of USSR, Expanded Communism  
Julius Caesar, Roman General, Ended Roman Civil Wars  
Lenin, Russian Leader, Founded Communism in Russia  
Napoleon Bonaparte, French Emperor, Waged Napoleonic Wars  
Sui Wen Ti, Chinese Emperor, Reunited China  
William the Conquerer, Norman Duke and English King, Led In Norman Conquest of England

**Philosophers**

Adam Smith, Economist, Advocated Capitalism  
Aristotle, Greek Philosopher  
Confucius, Chinese Philosopher, Founder of Confucianism  
John Locke, British Philosopher, Developed Democratic Ideas  
Karl Marx, Economist, Founder of Communism  
Plato, Greek Philosopher, Developed Platonism  
William Shakespeare, English Playwright

**Religion**

Jesus Christ, Founder of Christianity  
Mohammed, Founder of Islam  
Moses, Jewish Prophet  
St Paul, Christian Missionary and Apostle

**Scientists**

Albert Einstein, Scientist, Physicist, Theory of Relativity  
Charles Darwin, British Scientist, Theory of Evolution  
Euclid, Greek Mathematician  
Isaac Newton, British Scientist, Theory of Universal Gravitation and Motion  
Johannes Kepler, Scientist, Developed Theories of Planetary Motion  
Louis Pasteur, Scientist, Pasteurization, Germ Theory of Disease  
Max Planck, Scientist, Developed Therodynamics  
Michael Faraday, British Scientist, Discovered Electromagnetism

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My nominees are (lost 4 of 5)

Inventors. Antony van Leeuwenhoek  
Leaders. Josef Stalin  
Philosophy. Karl Marx  
Religion. Mohammed  
Science. Johannes Kepler

Leeuwnehoek, Stalin, and Marx are pretty easy choices, given their categories and remaining names.

Mohammed? Yeah, I’m a homer. Sue me. He was influenced by Moses and Jesus, and frankly, Christianity has had a deeper and longer impact on the globe’s affairs, especially since 1453, than Islam.

Kepler… it’s not that you’re not worthy, it’s just that the other guys are just _slightly more so_.

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Inventors. Antony van Leeuwenhoek  
Leaders. Josef Stalin  
Philosophy. Shakespeare  
Religion. Mohammed  
Science. Johannes Kepler

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2010, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-100-most-influential-people-try-the-third/536080/407 "2010-05-22T21:22:43Z")

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Inventions. Edison  
Leaders. William the Conqueror  
Philosophy. Locke  
Religion. Moses  
Science. Max Planck

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**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2010, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-100-most-influential-people-try-the-third/536080/408 "2010-05-22T21:49:42Z")

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Inventions. Antony van Leeuwenhoek  
Leader. George Washington  
Philosophy. John Locke  
Religion. Moses  
Science. Michael Faraday

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**Post date:** [May 23, 2010, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-100-most-influential-people-try-the-third/536080/409 "2010-05-23T00:21:44Z")

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Inventor. Alexander Fleming  
Leader. William the Conqueror  
Philosophy. John Locke  
Religion. St. Paul  
Science. Max Planck

Can’t believe Lister hung on so long, but he’s finally gone. Fleming just beat out Jenner in my quest to winnow the “medicine men” from the field.

Paul – sorry, but the religion’s not named after you, nor did you found it.

Max – congrats on making science’s Elite Eight, but it’s time for you to go.

Other two choices are holdovers.

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**Post date:** [May 23, 2010, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-100-most-influential-people-try-the-third/536080/410 "2010-05-23T01:57:41Z")

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Doing my part to save the virtual environment, A 100% recycled list:

Inventor. James Watt  
Leader. William the Conquerer  
Philosophy. Plato  
Religion. Paul  
Science. Johannes Kepler

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Inventors: Alexander Fleming  
Leaders: Josef Stalin  
Philosophy: William Shakespeare  
Religion: St. Paul  
Scientists: Max Planck

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2010, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-100-most-influential-people-try-the-third/536080/412 "2010-05-23T04:18:04Z")

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Invention: Antony van Leeuwenhoek  
Leaders: William the Conqueror  
Philosophy: Adam Smith  
Religion: Moses  
Science: Johannes Kepler

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**Author:** ![Uncle\_Goat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Uncle\_Goat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncle_Goat)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2010, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-100-most-influential-people-try-the-third/536080/413 "2010-05-23T04:37:30Z")

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Invention. Antony van Leeuwenhoek  
Leader. Julius Caesar  
Philosophy. Confucius  
Religion. Moses  
Science. Max Planck

Only a new face in Science. Planck Institute or not, Max can’t roll higher than a four.

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Inventors. Edward Jenner  
Leaders. Napoleon Bonaparte  
Philosophy. Adam Smith  
Religion. Moses  
Science. Max Planck

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**Post date:** [May 24, 2010, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-100-most-influential-people-try-the-third/536080/415 "2010-05-24T02:59:59Z")

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Inventions. Antony van Leeuwenhoek  
Leader. Napoleon Bonaparte  
Philosophy. Plato  
Religion. Moses  
Science. Johannes Kepler

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Inventors. Antony van Leeuwenhoek  
Leaders. Josef Stalin  
Philosophers. Adam Smith  
Religion. Moses  
Scientists. Louis Pasteur

I’m gonna push for Jesus to go before Paul. Without Paul driving post-Jesus Christianity it would never have gotten as far as it did. (Sorry.)

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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
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Inventors. Antony van Leeuwenhoek  
Leaders. Josef Stalin  
Philosophers. John Locke  
Religion. Moses  
Scientists. Max Planck

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Inventors. Antony van Leeuwenhoek  
Leaders. Josef Stalin  
Philosophy. Plato  
Religion. Moses  
Science. Johannes Kepler

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**Post date:** [May 24, 2010, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-100-most-influential-people-try-the-third/536080/419 "2010-05-24T21:05:33Z")

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Hey, a clean sweep.  
It just means I’m going to have to start thinking hard again.  
Invention. Antony van Leeuwenhoek  
Leaders. Genghis Khan  
Philosophy. John Locke  
Religion. Mohammed  
Science. Michael Faraday

I’m guessing that Josef Stalin bites it this round, but just think if he had negotiated a temporary peace with Germany during WWII, not counting his opening alliance in 1939.

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**Post date:** [May 24, 2010, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-100-most-influential-people-try-the-third/536080/420 "2010-05-24T21:27:53Z")

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Invention: Antony van Leeuwenhoek  
Leaders: William the Conqueror  
Philosophy: Adam Smith  
Religion: Moses  
Science: Johannes Kepler

Everyone left on the list is, obviously, brilliant ind important, but germ theory wasn’t widely accepted for more than a century after the death of Antony van Leeuwenhoek, which means his microscopes were more a neat toy, in his day, than a true means of advancing science.

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