# The 100 Most Influential People - Try the Third **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [April 14, 2010, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-100-most-influential-people-try-the-third/536080 "2010-04-14T16:58:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 32
**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-100-most-influential-people-try-the-third/536080/621 "2010-06-18T00:41:24Z")
And it came to pass on that day, that there went out a decree from **Sternvogel** that Caesar Augustus should be eliminated. Augustus Caesar ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-100-most-influential-people-try-the-third/536080/622 "2010-06-18T02:56:10Z")
Aristotle’s successors like Averroes, Abelard, Duns Scotus, and Aquinas founded the Scholastic method, which really was an intellectual dead end. They wasted all their time arguing over things so pointless that they were neither true or false - like the proverbial issue of how many angels could dance on the head of a pin. It was generations of smart people accomplishing nothing of any use. Aristotlean science was similarly useless. Back in his day it wasn’t science it was “natural philosophy”. It was people who didn’t bother observing or gathering evidence - they just thought up interesting theories. This led to such absurdities as Aristotle’s “explanation” of why men have more teeth than women. ---
**Author:** ![Uncle\_Goat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Uncle\_Goat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncle_Goat)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-100-most-influential-people-try-the-third/536080/623 "2010-06-18T04:36:14Z")
Aristotle Aristotle, Aristotle was a beggar for the bottle, Hobbes was fond of his dram, And Rene Descartes was a drunken fart: “I drink, therefore I am” Yes, Socrates, himself, is particularly missed; A lovely little thinker but a bugger when he’s pissed! ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-100-most-influential-people-try-the-third/536080/624 "2010-06-18T05:19:55Z")
> [@](#): > > But was Augustus that essential? Didn’t his stepfather do more conquering? Julius Caesar did some conquering but really he was just another wannabee dictator trying to take over as the Republic fell apart. The Gracchi brothers, Marius, Catalus, Sulla, Carbo, the Pompeys, Crassus, Cinna, Sertorius, Lepidus, Mark Antony - none of them succeeded in taking and holding power. Augustus did. ---
**Author:** ![ColdPhoenix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@ColdPhoenix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ColdPhoenix)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 7:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-100-most-influential-people-try-the-third/536080/625 "2010-06-18T07:57:16Z")
Johann Gutenberg ---
**Author:** ![sohvan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/96bed5/32.png) [@sohvan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sohvan)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-100-most-influential-people-try-the-third/536080/626 "2010-06-18T18:07:35Z")
Aristotle ---
**Author:** ![Animastryfe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8797f3/32.png) [@Animastryfe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Animastryfe)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2010, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-100-most-influential-people-try-the-third/536080/627 "2010-06-19T21:27:43Z")
Augustus Caesar. ---
**Author:** ![amarone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@amarone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarone)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2010, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-100-most-influential-people-try-the-third/536080/628 "2010-06-19T21:37:27Z")
Aristotle ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2010, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-100-most-influential-people-try-the-third/536080/629 "2010-06-19T22:50:52Z")
This is the last day for this round… ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2010, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-100-most-influential-people-try-the-third/536080/630 "2010-06-20T20:50:13Z")
And the loser is, by one vote: **Augustus Caesar** Remaining Names: \*\* Aristotle, Greek Philosopher, Philosophy and Arts Isaac Newton, British Scientist, Theory of Universal Gravitation and Motion, Science Johann Gutenberg, Inventor, Inventor of Printing Press, Invention and Exploration\*\* ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2010, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-100-most-influential-people-try-the-third/536080/631 "2010-06-20T20:51:15Z")
My vote: Johann Gutenberg ---
**Author:** ![sohvan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/96bed5/32.png) [@sohvan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sohvan)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2010, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-100-most-influential-people-try-the-third/536080/632 "2010-06-20T21:04:16Z")
Aristotle ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2010, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-100-most-influential-people-try-the-third/536080/633 "2010-06-20T21:05:28Z")
Aristotle ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2010, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-100-most-influential-people-try-the-third/536080/634 "2010-06-20T22:31:16Z")
You all know who I’m voting for. Aristotle for the win ---
**Author:** ![Uncle\_Goat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Uncle\_Goat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncle_Goat)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2010, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-100-most-influential-people-try-the-third/536080/635 "2010-06-20T22:51:21Z")
Aristotle ---
**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2010, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-100-most-influential-people-try-the-third/536080/636 "2010-06-20T22:59:58Z")
Aristotle ---
**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2010, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-100-most-influential-people-try-the-third/536080/637 "2010-06-21T02:33:17Z")
I was planning to vote for him anyway, and resistance at this point would be futile: Aristotle ---
**Author:** ![amarone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@amarone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarone)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2010, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-100-most-influential-people-try-the-third/536080/638 "2010-06-21T04:04:58Z")
Aristotle ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2010, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-100-most-influential-people-try-the-third/536080/639 "2010-06-21T05:06:48Z")
Johann Gutenberg > [@Sternvogel](#): > > resistance at this point would be futile Futiliy has never worried me much. :smack: Movable type was in use before Gutenberg. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2010, 7:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-100-most-influential-people-try-the-third/536080/640 "2010-06-21T07:55:40Z")
Newton. Leibniz co-invented calculus. And Newton worked in the midst of a more general scientific revolution. Or maybe I just prefer the other 2. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-100-most-influential-people-try-the-third/536080.md?page=31) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-100-most-influential-people-try-the-third/536080.md?page=33)