# The 100 Most Influential People - Try the Third **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [April 14, 2010, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-100-most-influential-people-try-the-third/536080 "2010-04-14T16:58:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2010, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-100-most-influential-people-try-the-third/536080/61 "2010-04-16T11:58:17Z")
Round 2 Inventor. Christopher Columbus Leader. Adolf Hitler Philosophy. Thomas Jefferson Religion. ‘Umar ibn al-Khattab Science. Enrico Fermi ---
**Author:** ![Aspidistra](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspidistra/32/3894_2.png) [@Aspidistra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspidistra)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2010, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-100-most-influential-people-try-the-third/536080/62 "2010-04-16T12:00:47Z")
Invention. Francisco Pizarro Leader. Alexander the Great Philosophy. Ludwig von Beethoven Religion. Oliver Cromwell Science. Galileo Galilei My reasons: Pizarro - just one of many adventurers of dubious morals roaming round South America in the 16th century Alexander - sure he created a huge empire, but it only lasted about 5 minutes before he was dead and it was gone. Only lasting difference was which ruling dynasties presided over the broken up bits. Beethoven - musicians out first in the “influence” stakes Cromwell - about the only one on the list whose influence was limited almost entirely to his own country Galileo - not by any means the only scientist of his era to know the earth goes round the sun, just the one the Catholic hierarchy most famously got in a snit with. ---
**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2010, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-100-most-influential-people-try-the-third/536080/63 "2010-04-16T12:36:21Z")
Inventions. Christopher Columbus Leader. Charlemagne Philosophy. Lao Tzu Religion. Mani Science. William Harvey ---
**Author:** ![Galwegian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galwegian/32/3426_2.png) [@Galwegian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Galwegian)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2010, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-100-most-influential-people-try-the-third/536080/64 "2010-04-16T12:37:45Z")
Invention. Francisco Pizarro Leader. John F Kennedy Philosophy. Mencius Religion. Mani Science. Sigmund Freud ---
**Author:** ![The\_Walking\_Dude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/90ced4/32.png) [@The\_Walking\_Dude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Walking_Dude)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2010, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-100-most-influential-people-try-the-third/536080/65 "2010-04-16T13:19:39Z")
Inventors. Francisco Pizarro Leaders. Simon Bolivar Philosophy. Johann Sebastian Bach Religion. Zoraster Science. Antonine Laurent Lavoisier ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2010, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-100-most-influential-people-try-the-third/536080/66 "2010-04-16T13:48:11Z")
Inventions. Vasco de Gama Leader. Menes Philosophy. Malthus Religion. Mani Science. Werner Heisenberg de Gama – I mean, the Cape of Good Hope was RIGHT THERE; someone was going to find it. Menes – how different would the world be if Ancient Egypt and not been united under Menes? Not much, ISTM. Malthus – I don’t know much about him, but he tied for the most votes last time, so… Mani – Manichaeism had a role in the formation of orthodox Christianity, but so did several other popular heresies - and this was not the most influential. Heisenberg – it’s just too early to say that quantum mechanics has had the same influence on the world that other discoveries in the list have had. ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2010, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-100-most-influential-people-try-the-third/536080/67 "2010-04-16T13:50:41Z")
Invention.Alexander Graham Bell Leader.Mikhail Gorbachev Arts.Ludwig von Beethoven Religion.Mani Science.Galileo Galilei My first four votes are exactly the same as the last time. SInce Freud is off the Science list, there aren’t any easy, obvious people to boot off. All the nominees on that list are genuinely brilliant, impressive and important. I vote off Galileo because his contributions seem less groundbreaking than those of the others on the list. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2010, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-100-most-influential-people-try-the-third/536080/68 "2010-04-16T13:51:19Z")
Inventions. Christopher Columbus Leader. Mikhail Gorbachev Philosophy and Arts. Thomas Malthus Religion. Oliver Cromwell Science. William Conrad Roentgen ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2010, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-100-most-influential-people-try-the-third/536080/69 "2010-04-16T14:01:15Z")
Inventions. Ts’ai Lun Leader. Simon Bolivar Philosophy and Arts. Voltaire Religion. John Calvin Science. William Harvey ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2010, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-100-most-influential-people-try-the-third/536080/70 "2010-04-16T14:05:16Z")
Inventions. Francisco Pizarro Leader. Peter the Great Philosophy and Arts. Thomas Malthus Religion. Justinian Science. William Conrad Roentgen On reflection, I think the late 19th & 20th century physicists who contributed to quantum & atomic theory suffer from the fact that there were so many of them who contributed (including several not on the list such as Niels Bohr and Erwin Schrodinger, to name two). Of the 19th & 20th century physicists, Roentgen seems the least impressive to me. Of the others, I have three carry-overs; I’ve already detailed my objections to Malthus and Justinian; Pizarro is another who basically accomplished what probably would have happened anyway in another decade or two, maybe with a larger army than he had. Peter the Great took Russia from being a backward but powerful nation to being… a backward but powerful nation. ---
**Author:** ![ColdPhoenix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@ColdPhoenix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ColdPhoenix)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2010, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-100-most-influential-people-try-the-third/536080/71 "2010-04-16T14:29:14Z")
Inventions. Vasco de Gama Leader. Simon Bolivar Philosophy and Arts. Thomas Malthus Religion. Mani Science. Antonine Laurent Lavoisier ---
**Author:** ![Uncle\_Goat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Uncle\_Goat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncle_Goat)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2010, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-100-most-influential-people-try-the-third/536080/72 "2010-04-16T14:51:38Z")
Invention. Vasco de Gama Leader. Simon Bolivar Philosophy. Rene Descartes Religion. Zoroaster Science. Leonhard Euler ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2010, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-100-most-influential-people-try-the-third/536080/73 "2010-04-16T14:55:04Z")
I hope Columbus gets out. I have no idea what makes him so great. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2010, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-100-most-influential-people-try-the-third/536080/74 "2010-04-16T15:37:03Z")
Inventors. Vasco De Gama Leaders. Queen Isabella I Philosophy. Nicoli Machiavelli Religion. Mani Science. Antonine Laurent Lavoisier 4 carry-overs, new one being Mani. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2010, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-100-most-influential-people-try-the-third/536080/75 "2010-04-16T15:38:27Z")
> [@Galwegian](#): > > Invention. Francisco Pizarro > Leader. John F Kennedy > Philosophy. Mencius > Religion. Mani > Science. Sigmund Freud Galweigan, we’re in the second round. Three of your choices have already been voted off the island. [Round 2 categories.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12349038&postcount=59) ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2010, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-100-most-influential-people-try-the-third/536080/76 "2010-04-16T15:44:28Z")
Round 2 votes: Inventions. Orville and Wilbur Wright Leader. Menes Philosophy and Arts. Rene Descrates Religion. Zoraster Science. Werner Heisenberg Menes: Because he’s virtually a legendary character. And I figure somebody would have unified Egypt as some point. Zoraster: His religion was a big deal for a long time but Islam has pretty much wiped it out in modern history. ---
**Author:** ![Panurge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/fbc32d/32.png) [@Panurge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Panurge)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2010, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-100-most-influential-people-try-the-third/536080/77 "2010-04-16T19:28:08Z")
Inventor. Ts’ai Lun Leader. Shi Huang Di Philosophy. Thomas Jefferson Religion. Mani Science. William Harvey I don’t really get it when people vote for (possibly) legendary characters. Does that mean that if they were atheists they would vote for God as “least influential”? Popular belief in myths and legends can give fictional events and characters (at least) as much influence on the history of mankind as many real events and people have had. ---
**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2010, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-100-most-influential-people-try-the-third/536080/78 "2010-04-16T21:01:47Z")
Inventor. Francisco Pizarro Leader. Shi Huang Di Philosophy. Rene Descartes Religion. Mani Science. James Clerk Maxwell Maxwell is the only one of my first-round choices who’s still in the running. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2010, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-100-most-influential-people-try-the-third/536080/79 "2010-04-16T21:22:48Z")
> [@Sternvogel](#): > > Inventor. Francisco Pizarro > Leader. Shi Huang Di > Philosophy. Rene Descartes > Religion. Mani > Science. James Clerk Maxwell > > Maxwell is the only one of my first-round choices who’s still in the running. I guess you win the Feud variant for round 1. Congratulations! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![amarone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@amarone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarone)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2010, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-100-most-influential-people-try-the-third/536080/80 "2010-04-17T00:48:25Z")
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