# The 100 Most Influential People - Try the Third **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [April 14, 2010, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-100-most-influential-people-try-the-third/536080 "2010-04-14T16:58:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![ColdPhoenix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@ColdPhoenix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ColdPhoenix)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 8:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-100-most-influential-people-try-the-third/536080/161 "2010-04-26T08:00:14Z")
Inventions. Orville and Wilbur Wright Leader. Mikhail Gorbachev Philosophy and Arts. Rene Descartes Religion. ‘Umar ibn al-Khattab Science. Antonine Laurent Lavoisier ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 9:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-100-most-influential-people-try-the-third/536080/162 "2010-04-26T09:37:55Z")
Inventors. Alexander Graham Bell Leaders. Mikhail Gorbachev Philosophy and the Arts. Rene Descartes Religion. Umar ibn al-Khattab Scientists. Antonine Laurent Lavoisier ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-100-most-influential-people-try-the-third/536080/163 "2010-04-26T12:30:18Z")
Invention. Alexander Graham Bell Leader. Peter the Great Philosophy. Voltaire Religion. Justinian Science. Werner Heisenberg Two new: A. G. Bell mainly because I wanted to vote for an inventor after booting 2 explorers; Heisenberg because there were so many great minds who contributed to quantum physics it’s hard to see any one of them as indispensible. ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-100-most-influential-people-try-the-third/536080/164 "2010-04-26T13:52:11Z")
Inventors. Hernando Cortes Leaders. Peter the Great Philosophy and the Arts. Nicoli Machiavelli Religion. Justinian I Scientists. Johannes Kepler ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-100-most-influential-people-try-the-third/536080/165 "2010-04-26T14:05:51Z")
I think I have 3/5 repeats: Inventor. Orville and Wilbur Wright Leaders. Charlemagne Philosophy: Voltaire Regligion: Pope Urban II Scientists: Werner Heisenberg For religion, I’m surprised at the Calvin votes. Calvinism/reformed theology is still a very strong and influential thread of modern Christianity and Presbyterianism is a major denomination in the west. ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2010, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-100-most-influential-people-try-the-third/536080/166 "2010-04-26T23:55:36Z")
Invention. Hernando Cortes Leader. Genghis Khan Philosophy. Michelangelo Religion. Pope Urban II Science. Antonine Laurent Lavoisier ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-100-most-influential-people-try-the-third/536080/167 "2010-04-27T13:04:03Z")
Last day for round 5… ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2010, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-100-most-influential-people-try-the-third/536080/168 "2010-04-27T21:42:46Z")
7 more hours… ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-100-most-influential-people-try-the-third/536080/169 "2010-04-28T03:32:53Z")
Eh, close enough. Round 5 is over! The losers are… **Category, Name, # of votes** I, Hernando Cortes, 8 R, Justinian I, 4 L, Mikhail Gorbachev, 5 P, Rene Descrates, 5 S, Werner Heisenberg, 5 Heisenberg is the ranking loser @ # 41, while 2 more in the 90’s (Gorbachev and Justinian) are gone. All of the explorers are now history (yuck-yuck), so there are only inventors left in the first category. As of the fifth round our lowest ranked person still on the list is #98, Homer, and the highest kicked off is #9, Christopher Columbus. Here are the remaining candidates: **Inventors** Alexander Fleming, Scientist, Invented Penicillin Alexander Graham Bell, Scientist, Invented Telephone Antony van Leeuwenhoek, Scientist, Inventor of Microscope Edward Jenner, Scientist, Developed Vaccination for Smallpox Gugilemo Marconi, Scientist, Invented Radio Henry Ford, American Industrialist, Developed Mass Production Techniques James Watt, British Scientist, Invented Steam Engine Johann Gutenberg, Scientist, Inventor of Printing Press Joseph Lister, Scientist, Developed Antiseptic Methods Louis Dagurre, Scientist, Invented Photography Nikolaus August Otto, Scientist, Developed Internal Combustion Engine Orville and Wilbur Wright, Scientists, Inventor of Airplane Thomas Edison, American Scientist, 1,000+ inventions Ts’ai Lun, Scientist, Inventor of Paper William TG Morton, Scientist, Invented Anaesthesia **Leaders** Adolf Hitler, German Dictator, Started World War II Alexander the Great, Macedonian Ruler, Formed Macedonian Empire Augustus Caesar, Roman Princep, Founded Roman Empire Charlemagne, Frankish Monarch, Founder of Holy Roman Empire Cyrus the Great, Persian Emperor, Founded Persian Emperor Genghis Khan, Mongol Ruler, Founded Mongol Empire George Washington, American Statesman and General, Fought For Independence of United States Josef Stalin, Dictator of USSR, Expanded Communism Julius Caesar, Roman General, Ended Roman Civil Wars Lenin, Russian Leader, Founded Communism in Russia Mao Zedong, Chinese Dictator, Established Communism in China Napoleon Bonaparte, French Emperor, Waged Napoleonic Wars Peter the Great, Russian Emperor, Modernized Russia Queen Elizabeth I, Queen of England, Made England a Naval Power Queen Isabella I, Queen of Spain, Sponsored Columbus’ Expeditions Sui Wen Ti, Chinese Emperor, Reunited China William the Conquerer, Norman Duke and English King, Led In Norman Conquest of England **Philosophy and the Arts** Adam Smith, Economist, Advocated Capitalism Aristotle, Greek Philosopher Confucius, Chinese Philosopher, Founder of Confucianism Francis Bacon, Philosopher, Developed Scientific Method Homer, Greek Poet, Writer of Epics John Locke, British Philosopher, Developed Democratic Ideas Karl Marx, Economist, Founder of Communism Lao Tzu, Chinese Philosopher, Founded Taoism Ludwig von Beethoven, Composer Michelangelo, Artist, Sculptor Nicoli Machiavelli, Political Theorist Plato, Greek Philosopher, Developed Platonism Thomas Jefferson, American Statesman, Wrote Declaration of Independence, Louisiana Purchase Voltaire, French Philosopher William Shakespeare, English Playwright **Religion** ‘Umar ibn al-Khattab, Muslim Caliph, Expanded the Caliphate Asoka, Indian Emperor, Spread Buddhism Buddha, Founder of Buddhism Constantine the Great, Roman Emperor, Tolerated and Promoted Christianity in Rome Jesus Christ, Founder of Christianity John Calvin, Christian Theologian, Developed Calvinism Martin Luther, Theologian, Started Protestantism and Reformation Mohammed, Founder of Islam Moses, Jewish Prophet Pope Urban II, Pope of Roman Catholic Church, Called For Crusades St Augustine, Christian Theologian St Paul, Christian Missionary and Apostle **Science** Albert Einstein, Scientist, Physicist, Theory of Relativity Antonine Laurent Lavoisier, French Scientist, Advanced Chemistry Charles Darwin, British Scientist, Theory of Evolution Enrico Fermi, Scientist, Developed Atomic Bomb Ernest Rutherford, Scientist, Developed Subatomic Physics Euclid, Greek Mathematician Galileo Galilei, Scientist, Advocated Heliocentricity Isaac Newton, British Scientist, Theory of Universal Gravitation and Motion James Clerk Marxwell, Scientist, Electromagnetism Johannes Kepler, Scientist, Developed Theories of Planetary Motion John Dalton, Scientist, Atomic Theory Leonhard Euler, Mathematician Louis Pasteur, Scientist, Pasteurization, Germ Theory of Disease Max Planck, Scientist, Developed Therodynamics Michael Faraday, British Scientist, Discovered Electromagnetism Nicolas Copernicus, Scientist, Theory of Heliocentricity ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-100-most-influential-people-try-the-third/536080/170 "2010-04-28T03:36:01Z")
Inventors. Alexander Graham Bell Leaders. Queen Isabella I Philosophy. Nicoli Machiavelli Religion. John Calvin Science. Antonine Laurent Lavoisier Kills me to vote against Bell as we Scots need to stick together, but the fact is that he _barely_ beat his competition to the patent office. Invention is a category which, for me, the easy fruit has already been plucked. ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-100-most-influential-people-try-the-third/536080/171 "2010-04-28T04:09:59Z")
Invention.Alexander Graham Bell Leader.Cyrus the Great Arts.Ludwig von Beethoven Religion.Asoka Science.Galileo Galilei ---
**Author:** ![ColdPhoenix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@ColdPhoenix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ColdPhoenix)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-100-most-influential-people-try-the-third/536080/172 "2010-04-28T08:05:10Z")
Inventions. Orville and Wilbur Wright Leader. Cyrus the Great Philosophy and Arts. Michelangelo Religion. ‘Umar ibn al-Khattab Science. Antonine Laurent Lavoisier ---
**Author:** ![sohvan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/96bed5/32.png) [@sohvan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sohvan)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 8:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-100-most-influential-people-try-the-third/536080/173 "2010-04-28T08:40:55Z")
Invention. Alexander Graham Bell Leader. Mikhail Gorbachev Philosophy. Nicoli Machiavelli Religion. John Calvin Science. Johannes Kepler ---
**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 9:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-100-most-influential-people-try-the-third/536080/174 "2010-04-28T09:58:40Z")
Inventions. Orville and Wilbur Wright Leader. Charlemagne Philosophy. Ludwig von Beethoven Religion. Moses Science. Galileo Galilei ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 9:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-100-most-influential-people-try-the-third/536080/175 "2010-04-28T09:59:25Z")
**sohvan** , Gorbachev is gone already. Inventors. Alexander Graham Bell Leaders. Queen Isabella I Philosophy. Nicoli Machiavelli Religion. 'Umar ibn al-Khattab Science. Antonine Laurent Lavoisier ---
**Author:** ![sohvan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/96bed5/32.png) [@sohvan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sohvan)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 10:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-100-most-influential-people-try-the-third/536080/176 "2010-04-28T10:03:55Z")
Ow, that’s what I get for posting in the morning. I suppose it’s too late to change it now, so it’ll have to remain empty for this round. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 10:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-100-most-influential-people-try-the-third/536080/177 "2010-04-28T10:21:40Z")
Inventors. William TG Morton Leaders. Charlemagne Philosophy. Voltaire Religion. Moses Science. Nicolas Copernicus Comment on _Leaders_: Cyrus the Great and Shi Huang Di would be near the top of my personal list of influential leaders; I’m very surprised to see them getting votes already. I suppose Isabella is the bandwagon choice for this round, for those trying to save Cyrus, but I’ll contribute to a possible Charlemagne bandwagon instead. His short-lived empire is famous, to some extent, just because of the Pope’s gratitude for defeating the heathen Lombards. ---
**Author:** ![amarone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@amarone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarone)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-100-most-influential-people-try-the-third/536080/178 "2010-04-28T10:28:25Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > As of the fifth round our lowest ranked person still on the list is #98, Homer I’m doing my best - I’ve voted for him the last several rounds. I really don’t see why others think he is all that influential. Inventor. Orville and Wilbur Wright Leader. Queen Isabella I Philosophy. Homer Religion. Pope Urban II Science. Johannes Kepler ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-100-most-influential-people-try-the-third/536080/179 "2010-04-28T12:41:33Z")
Inventor. Alexander Graham Bell Leader. Peter the Great Philosophy. Voltaire Religion. John Calvin Science. Copernicus Two new here - Calvin is at best the fifth-most-influential Christian on the list; his only real competition is Urban, and I think (for good or ill) starting the Crusades is more of an influence than playing second fiddle in the Reformation. Copernicus’s model was no better at actually predicting astronomical events than the prevailing geocentric model - it was Brahe and particularly Kepler who got it to actually work. ETA: I’d like to hear someone make an affirmative case for Asoka in the Religion category, or I’m likely to start voting for him soon. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-100-most-influential-people-try-the-third/536080/180 "2010-04-28T13:33:23Z")
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