# The 12 Steps to Submission

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-12-steps-to-submission/5693>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 29, 2000, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-12-steps-to-submission/5693 "2000-03-29T07:31:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 8\
**Page:** 6

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2000, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-12-steps-to-submission/5693/101 "2000-04-06T03:51:00Z")

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Ohmyghod! I think I’ve been dissed! 🙂

They say that a man’s worth can be measured by the quality of his enemies.

I humbly apologize, and will strive to do better. Where’s Krispy when I really need him?

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Eagles may soar free and proud, but weasels never get sucked into jet engines.

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**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2000, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-12-steps-to-submission/5693/102 "2000-04-06T15:17:00Z")

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First of all, **CalifBoomer** , will you please answer my fucking question from my last post?

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> … Esprix posts articulately & intelligently (mostly) from his point of view.

Oh, fuck off. There was a time when I tried to give you credit for having a brain, but you’ve proved time and again you have one and refuse to use it. I have little pity or tolerance for such a person.

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> I respect the _integrity_ of each…

Oh, yeah - that’s why you’re the first one to start mud-slinging and name-calling. I’m _so_ honored. :rolleyes:

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> On the other hand, there are those who don’t seem to get the idea of these forums… They seem to think it is their job to take a contrarian position simply for the purpose of what they interpret as ‘winning.’ You get the idea they don’t have any fervently held beliefs, only a general antagonism accompanied by a closed mind. You will spend forever chasing the red herrings they toss and get nowhere in the process. Argument for the sake of argument. I’m not interested.

{blink blink}

When I pick up my jaw from the ground I’ll think of a pithy reply. For the moment, “fuck you” will do nicely.

Esprix

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[Ask the Gay Guy!](http://boards.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/001376.html)

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**Author:** ![Sassy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47c2d/32.png) [@Sassy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sassy)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2000, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-12-steps-to-submission/5693/103 "2000-04-06T18:25:00Z")

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> Originally posted by CalifBoomer:  
> \*\*slythe:
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> No. You can die drunk for all I care, asswipe. \*\*

thus proving to anyone who was unsure that Califboomer is no kind of Christian at all.

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**Author:** ![CalifBoomer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f1d935/32.png) [@CalifBoomer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalifBoomer)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2000, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-12-steps-to-submission/5693/104 "2000-04-07T03:44:00Z")

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Esprix:

I don’t like your antagonistic tone. If you truly want to learn, it would behoove you to approach unfamiliar ground with an open mind. If, on the other hand, your purpose is only contentiousness, you can take it elsewhere. I’m not about to get into yet another pissing contest with you.

Sassy:

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> thus proving to anyone who was unsure that Califboomer is no kind of Christian at all.

For your information up there in San Francisco, one has nothing to do with the other.

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**Author:** ![yosemite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3ab097/32.png) [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2000, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-12-steps-to-submission/5693/105 "2000-04-07T06:23:00Z")

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> I don’t like your antagonistic tone.

You’re kidding, right? You _really_ think you’re entitled to complain about someone else’s “antagonistic tone”? _ **You?!?!** _

Amazing.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2000, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-12-steps-to-submission/5693/106 "2000-04-07T11:55:00Z")

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Calif, some people think that you post reasonably once in a while, but lapse into stupidity way too often. IMHO, you are an asshole who pretends to be reasonable just often enough to cast doubts among some who are trying like hell to give the benefit of the doubt.  
After this thread, I don’t have any doubt.  
Asshole.

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Eagles may soar free and proud, but weasels never get sucked into jet engines.

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**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2000, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-12-steps-to-submission/5693/107 "2000-04-07T16:01:00Z")

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> Originally posted by **CalifBoomer** :
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> I don’t like your antagonistic tone.

Oh, may I? Thank you.

From this very thread:

[ul][li]I just love you ‘experts’ talking out of your assholes about something you know absolutfuckingly nothing about. {Ed’s note: I will point out that this was your very first post in this thread, completely unprovoked.}[/li]  
[li]You’re so fucking smart that your best thinking got you where you are!! Moron.[/li]  
[li]And the rest of you freaking phobics[/li]  
[li]You pompous little pissant.[/li]  
[li]You can die drunk for all I care, asswipe.[/li]  
[li]Go find someone else to pester, crack-baby.[/li]  
[li]Alcoholism is not a biological error, like atheistic liberalism or homosexuality. {You later said this statement was, “just a red baiting remark intended to piss off leftists,” which I believe _defines_ “antagonistic.”}[/li]  
[li]Grow the fuck up.[/li]  
[li]a sarcastic remark made to another ignorant asshole like yourself.[/li]  
[li]Either come to a discussion with something to contribute, fuckwad, or shut the fuck up, you freaking biological error.[/ul][/li]  
I could go on, but this bores me.

You need to go check out the thread dedicated to you here in the Pit.

Oh, and since it seems to bother you so much… fuck you. And the horse you rode in on.

Esprix

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[Ask the Gay Guy!](http://boards.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/001376.html) (or, if you prefer the Jesusfied version, [Asketh the damn Priest Guy!](http://www.askjesus.org/ask.cgi?http://boards.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/001376.html))

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**Author:** ![Pooch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/dbc845/32.png) [@Pooch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pooch)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2000, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-12-steps-to-submission/5693/108 "2000-04-07T21:22:00Z")

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Esprix,

You forgot:

```
 "Dumb fucking drunken shitballs"

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which was my favorite.

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