# the 13 families

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-13-families/318939>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [August 28, 2005, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-13-families/318939 "2005-08-28T03:42:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![quicksilver6](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/71c47a/32.png) [@quicksilver6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/quicksilver6)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2005, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-13-families/318939/1 "2005-08-28T03:42:01Z")

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I’ve done alot of reading and I have found this list of 13 families whom supposedly control the world and are bent on creating a one world gov’t has anyone else heard of this and how true is it?

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2005, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-13-families/318939/2 "2005-08-28T03:45:26Z")

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> [@quicksilver6](#):
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> I’ve done alot of reading and I have found this list of 13 families whom supposedly control the world and are bent on creating a one world gov’t has anyone else heard of this and how true is it?

What list? Links please. Sounds like an offshoot of Illuminati stuff.

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**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2005, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-13-families/318939/3 "2005-08-28T05:40:59Z")

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Could be Illuminati, the Bildbergers, the 700 club - who knows? It’s all rubbish, obviously.

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**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2005, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-13-families/318939/4 "2005-08-28T05:44:47Z")

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And if these 13 families already control the world, why would they need a one-world government?

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**Author:** ![Plynck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Plynck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plynck)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2005, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-13-families/318939/5 "2005-08-28T05:44:48Z")

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Am I on the list? Cause I haven’t been checking my emails and I don’t want to miss out.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2005, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-13-families/318939/6 "2005-08-28T05:45:42Z")

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Would you please tell us what the library tag on the book says? If it has a capital F above the author’s name, then it’s fiction.

BTW, it’s “…who supposedly control…”

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**Author:** ![Good\_Egg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/96bed5/32.png) [@Good\_Egg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Good_Egg)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2005, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-13-families/318939/7 "2005-08-28T05:50:06Z")

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We’re supposed to pretend it doesn’t exist. shhh

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2005, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-13-families/318939/8 "2005-08-28T05:52:52Z")

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I’ve heard of this list. It floats around in the conspiracy world. If you want to read about it, [here you go.](http://www.thewatcherfiles.com/bloodlines/index.htm)

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**Author:** ![quicksilver6](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/71c47a/32.png) [@quicksilver6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/quicksilver6)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2005, 8:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-13-families/318939/9 "2005-08-28T08:31:07Z")

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thanks for all the great replies i can see why people come here for answers to all of life’s questions. Monty thanks for the grammer lesson i’ll let my old college prof know you’re keeping me in line. Hasn’t anyone else looked into this??? Like done some actual research?? I’ve looked up the Rothschild’s and they own and run the world bank and I’ve seen it written that they also control ,through other banks, a 53% holding of the US Federal reserve. And I loved the F is for fiction comment really intelligent to respond with useless comments it really shows your intellignece. How about trying to help by offering information on whether or not this is true. Goof.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2005, 8:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-13-families/318939/10 "2005-08-28T08:35:59Z")

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I seriously doubt the Rotschilds actually own the world bank.

My comment was about your apparent consideration of obvious fiction to be reliable evidence. My telling you that the book is fiction is my telling you that it’s not true.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2005, 8:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-13-families/318939/11 "2005-08-28T08:37:22Z")

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BTW, personal insults aren’t permitted outside the Pit. How’s that for helpful?

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2005, 8:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-13-families/318939/12 "2005-08-28T08:47:48Z")

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More help: levity is sometimes used to gently point something out.

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**Author:** ![quicksilver6](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/71c47a/32.png) [@quicksilver6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/quicksilver6)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2005, 8:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-13-families/318939/13 "2005-08-28T08:55:03Z")

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Sorry about the insult. I guess your complete lack of knowledge or willingness to help out just kind bothered me. I just assumed that would be able to back up your comments but I guess I’m wrong…like I said I guess I came to the wrong place for help. All i’m saying is why don’t you stop saying comments that are no help. if you think its fiction then help me prove it. Why don’t you start by looking into what the Rothschild are in control of and then you can make a comment.

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**Author:** ![quicksilver6](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/71c47a/32.png) [@quicksilver6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/quicksilver6)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2005, 8:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-13-families/318939/14 "2005-08-28T08:56:31Z")

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More help: It’s Rothschild not Rotschild

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**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2005, 9:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-13-families/318939/15 "2005-08-28T09:49:27Z")

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> [@quicksilver6](#):
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> Like done some actual research?? I’ve looked up the Rothschild’s and they own and run the world bank

This is factually incorrect. You seem to have no idea what the [World Bank](http://web.worldbank.org/WBSITE/EXTERNAL/EXTABOUTUS/0,,contentMDK:20040558~menuPK:34559~pagePK:34542~piPK:36600~theSitePK:29708,00.html) actually is. It’s certainly not “owned” by an individual.

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> Not a bank, but rather a specialized agency. The World Bank is not a “bank” in the common sense. It is one of the United Nations’ specialized agencies, and is made up of 184 member countries. These countries are jointly responsible for how the institution is financed and how its money is spent. Along with the rest of the development community, the World Bank centers its efforts on reaching the Millennium Development Goals, agreed to by UN members in 2000 and aimed at sustainable poverty reduction.
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> The “World Bank” is the name that has come to be used for the International Bank for Reconstruction and Development (IBRD) and the International Development Association (IDA). Together these organizations provide low-interest loans, interest-free credit, and grants to developing countries.

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**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2005, 9:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-13-families/318939/16 "2005-08-28T09:57:54Z")

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> [@quicksilver6](#):
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> a 53% holding of the US Federal reserve.

You do not seem to have any idea of what the [Federal Reserve](http://www.federalreserve.gov/generalinfo/faq/faqfrs.htm#5) is, either

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> Who owns the Federal Reserve?
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> The Federal Reserve System is not “owned” by anyone and is not a private, profit-making institution. Instead, it is an independent entity within the government, having both public purposes and private aspects.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2005, 10:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-13-families/318939/17 "2005-08-28T10:06:22Z")

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Inteesting how the OP fixates on the Rothschields.

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**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2005, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-13-families/318939/18 "2005-08-28T11:21:07Z")

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Those Rochschelds make [nice wine](http://www.bpdr.com/) though 😉

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**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2005, 11:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-13-families/318939/19 "2005-08-28T11:35:30Z")

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This may be what he’s talking about. It’s part of the aluminiumfoliekappe thesis.

[Illuminati Defector Details Conspiracy Plans](http://http://www.luisprada.com/Protected/illuminati_defector_details_conspiracy_plans.htm)

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**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2005, 11:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-13-families/318939/20 "2005-08-28T11:37:19Z")

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Let’s try that link again

[Illuminati Defector Details Conspiracy Plans](http://www.luisprada.com/Protected/illuminati_defector_details_conspiracy_plans.htm)

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