# The 2012 Election Schadenfreude thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2012-election-schadenfreude-thread/640156>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 6, 2012, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2012-election-schadenfreude-thread/640156 "2012-11-06T23:31:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![LinusK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/258eb7/32.png) [@LinusK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LinusK)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2012-election-schadenfreude-thread/640156/41 "2012-11-07T06:20:59Z")

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> [@justrob](#):
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> Does anyone else find it strange that the Fox talking heads were saying it’s time to start reaching across the aisle and start working together?

No. They were saying _Obama_ needs to do those things. Not the Republicans.

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**Author:** ![user\_hostile](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/user_hostile/32/474_2.png) [@user\_hostile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/user_hostile)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2012-election-schadenfreude-thread/640156/42 "2012-11-07T06:42:45Z")

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> [@LinusK](#):
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> Wow. First it was funny, then it got depressing.
> 
> The consensus: if our side can’t win, I hope America burns.

When words fail me, I let Dante speak with an allegory:

> [@](#):
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> \*We crossed the circle to the other bank, beside a spring that bubbles up and flows into a channel it makes for itself. The water was darker than the deepest purple. Accompanied by its murky waves, we began our strange descent. This dreary stream, once it has reached these malignant, ashen slopes drains out into the swamp called Styx.
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> And I, my gaze transfixed, could see people with angry faces in that bog, naked, their bodies smeared with mud. They struck each other with their hands, their heads, their chests and feet, and tore each other with their teeth. The good master [Virgil] said: “Son, now you see the souls of those whom anger overcame. And I would have you know for certain that plunged beneath these waters, as your eyes will tell you, are souls whose sighs with bubbles make the water’s surface seethe.”
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> Fixed in the slime they say: “We were sullen in the sweet air that in the sun rejoices, filled as we were with slothful fumes. Now we are sullen in black mire.”
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> This hymn they gurgle in their gullets, for they cannot get a word out whole. \*

Divine Comedy (The Inferno–Canto VII, 109 - 126).

I would like to introduce my newest addition to the American lexicon: _5th Circle conservatives_.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 7:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2012-election-schadenfreude-thread/640156/43 "2012-11-07T07:48:02Z")

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I’m not going to gloat. The guy I favored won so why not be generous in victory? I said earlier this week that if Romney won, I’d wish him success and hope that he would be a better president than I expected. I like to think that his supporters now have the same thoughts for Obama.

But I’ll admit I got a chuckle out of Trump having a meltdown. Even conservatives have to admit that guy’s a putz.

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 7:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2012-election-schadenfreude-thread/640156/44 "2012-11-07T07:51:28Z")

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And I hear Karl Rove was… a tad upset by Fox News calling Ohio for Obama when it did? I didn’t see it, but the descriptions sound hilarious.

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 8:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2012-election-schadenfreude-thread/640156/45 "2012-11-07T08:44:31Z")

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Am I alone in wishing this were in the Pit, so I could speak more freely?

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**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 9:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2012-election-schadenfreude-thread/640156/46 "2012-11-07T09:00:18Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> But I’ll admit I got a chuckle out of Trump having a meltdown. Even conservatives have to admit that guy’s a putz.

My tweet to Trump, a few minutes ago:

> [@](#):
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> @realDonaldTrump Luckily for you, “Butthurt” is considered a pre-existing condition… which is now covered by Obamacare.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 10:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2012-election-schadenfreude-thread/640156/47 "2012-11-07T10:59:11Z")

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I was thrilled to see the Rape Boys (Akin and Mourdock) losing, and Allan West was sweet icing on the cake. If Bachmann loses I may actually dance in my office.

Also:

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> Let’s fight like hell and stop this great and disgusting injustice! The world is laughing at us!

No, the world is relieved, from all the foreign political and economic commentary I’ve seen. Except Iran - they’d like a return to Bush-era policies.

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2012-election-schadenfreude-thread/640156/48 "2012-11-07T12:09:47Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Here’s a little appetizer of schadenfreude from [Free Republic](http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2956071/posts).

In the same thread where they denounce Obama’s rampant socialism two of them mention moving to Canada or South America. :eek: I don’t think they know much about Canada or South America.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2012-election-schadenfreude-thread/640156/49 "2012-11-07T12:31:03Z")

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> [@Mighty\_Girl](#):
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> In the same thread where they denounce Obama’s rampant socialism two of them mention moving to Canada or South America. :eek: I don’t think they know much about Canada or South America.

Or Obama, or socialism. And their definition of “rampant” may need a little work, too.

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2012-election-schadenfreude-thread/640156/50 "2012-11-07T12:39:58Z")

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I would also appreciate if you keep your loonies out of our island. There’s too many of those here already and they are no more happy here with “the lazy browns” than they were in the “Soviet Republic of United States”.

New laws were recently passed tightening immigration here. Perhaps our congressnuts knew Obama was going to win and prepare for the onslaught.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2012-election-schadenfreude-thread/640156/51 "2012-11-07T13:26:19Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> I just don’t comprehend this behavior. What’s the rationale behind the Obamacalypse not coming about during the first term? I mean, why would you wait until the second term to destroy the nation?

It’s hard to get re-elected while you’re oppressing the masses and salting the earth. 😛

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**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2012-election-schadenfreude-thread/640156/52 "2012-11-07T13:30:03Z")

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They’re welcome to move to Canada. We’ll teach them the truth about socialism and send them back to you properly indoctrinated. 🙂

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2012-election-schadenfreude-thread/640156/53 "2012-11-07T13:35:02Z")

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I’m going to do something I haven’t done since November, 2008.

I’m going to listen to Rush Limbaugh. 😃

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2012-election-schadenfreude-thread/640156/54 "2012-11-07T13:43:17Z")

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> [@Leaper](#):
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> And I hear Karl Rove was… a tad upset by Fox News calling Ohio for Obama when it did? I didn’t see it, but the descriptions sound hilarious.

[Here’s an account of it.](http://news.yahoo.com/karl-rove-vs-fox-news-053252384--abc-news-politics.html)

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2012-election-schadenfreude-thread/640156/55 "2012-11-07T15:59:53Z")

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> [@Mighty\_Girl](#):
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> In the same thread where they denounce Obama’s rampant socialism two of them mention moving to Canada or South America. :eek: I don’t think they know much about Canada or South America.

> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> Or Obama, or socialism. And their definition of “rampant” may need a little work, too.

And if we go by past promises like this, we’re probably also looking at the lesser used definition of “moving” that doesn’t actually involve going anywhere.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2012-election-schadenfreude-thread/640156/56 "2012-11-07T18:17:07Z")

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Rush’s answer as to why Romney lost?

Racist Democrats.

Yup, African American voters, Latino voters, etc, are all racists. Why don’t they understand that the Republican party is the party of inclusion, what with such lauded names as:

Clarence Thomas  
Herman Caine  
Michelle Bachmann (whom Rush called an “extraordinarily accomplished woman”)  
Alan Keyes

and, of course, Mario Rubio who is now regarded as The Answer.

OK, Rush. Got it. Racist Democrats - check.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2012-election-schadenfreude-thread/640156/57 "2012-11-07T18:30:03Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Rush’s answer as to why Romney lost?
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> Racist Democrats.
> 
> Yup, African American voters, Latino voters, etc, are all racists. Why don’t they understand that the Republican party is the party of inclusion, what with such lauded names as:
> 
> Clarence Thomas  
> Herman Caine  
> Michelle Bachmann (whom Rush called an “extraordinarily accomplished woman”)  
> Alan Keyes
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> and, of course, Mario Rubio who is now regarded as The Answer.
> 
> OK, Rush. Got it. Racist Democrats - check.

This gives me high hopes for the future of the Republican party.

Specifically, my hope that it crumbles into a regional (Southern) party with very little national influence, allowing the Democrats to become the moderate/conservative party, with space for a truly progressive party on the left.

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2012-election-schadenfreude-thread/640156/58 "2012-11-07T19:06:41Z")

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> [@Gorsnak](#):
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> They’re welcome to move to Canada. We’ll teach them the truth about socialism and send them back to you properly indoctrinated. 🙂

My sister is Canadian, and she is constantly complaining about the “Bush clone” running the country.

I love this thread though! [Here’s a great one](http://spectator.org/archives/2012/11/07/doomed-beyond-all-hope-of-rede/print), worth reading in full but here’s a taste:

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> Even before the unmitigated political disaster of November 6, 2012, a date that will live in infamy, the prospects of salvaging the United States were not particularly hopeful. Now, however, we are permanently and irretrievably screwed.  
> […]  
> The list of fools who have brought this disaster upon us certainly also will include New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, the gelatinous clown who (a) hogged up a prime time spot at the Republican convention to sing his own praises; (b) embraced Obama as the hero of Hurricane Sandy; and (c) then refused to appear at campaign events in support of Romney’s presidential campaign. Good luck with the remainder of your political future, governor. It is unlikely Republicans shall soon forget your perfidious betrayal.

“Gelatinous clown” and “perfidious betrayal” in one paragraph–nice. Almost expected that section of the rant to close with “Good _day_, sir–I said good **day!** ”

ETA:

> [@](#):
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> Specifically, my hope that it crumbles into a regional (Southern) party with very little national influence, allowing the Democrats to become the moderate/conservative party, with space for a truly progressive party on the left.

I could see something like that happening, but one result might be that the regional rump faction of the GOP would become competitive again. Power might ricochet around among all three factions periodically. Not necessarily horrible, but something to keep in mind.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2012-election-schadenfreude-thread/640156/59 "2012-11-07T19:09:04Z")

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Here in Minnesota, every first Monday of the month at 1pm, they test the emergency Tornado/Storm sirens. They just went off about 5 minutes ago.

All I could do was think, with the election yesterday and all the crazy fearmongering idiots out there… The 9-1-1 calls caused by the sirens must be really interesting right now.

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2012-election-schadenfreude-thread/640156/60 "2012-11-07T19:18:03Z")

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> [Here’s an account of it.](http://news.yahoo.com/karl-rove-vs-fox-news-053252384--abc-news-politics.html)

“Turn those machines back on!!!”

-Mortimer from Tradin Places

> [@SlackerInc](#):
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> I could see something like that happening, but one result might be that the regional rump faction of the GOP would become competitive again. Power might ricochet around among all three factions periodically. Not necessarily horrible, but something to keep in mind.

If the Republican party fractured then the Democratic party would fracture as well. While the fault lines in the Democratic party are not nearly as deep, there is a liberal wing to the Democratic party that is kind of sick of the rest of the Democratic party and tehre is a conservative wing of the Democratic party taht sort of feels the same way.

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