# The 2014 Big Brother point and laugh thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 25, 2014, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2014-big-brother-point-and-laugh-thread/691608 "2014-06-25T13:40:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2014, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2014-big-brother-point-and-laugh-thread/691608/141 "2014-09-13T14:57:49Z")
> [@notfrommensa](#): > > Frankie was also very dismissive of Donnie who apparently America love Donnie. And that is where a lot of vitriol towards Frankie is occurring. > > Personally, I didn’t like Donnie or his game play, as he played up the victim card too much. He did have more integrity than any of the remaining HGs, but I don’t watch BB for HG w/ integrity. You can either have integrity or $500,000, you can’t have both. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2014, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2014-big-brother-point-and-laugh-thread/691608/142 "2014-09-13T22:18:17Z")
> [@etv78](#): > > You can either have integrity or $500,000, you can’t have both. I’m not sure that’s accurate. I’d say Jordan played with integrity in BB11, and also Rachel in BB13. At least, I don’t remember either of them deliberately stringing along fake allies who they then backstabbed, or making up and spreading lies to hurt other people’s games, etc… ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2014, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2014-big-brother-point-and-laugh-thread/691608/143 "2014-09-13T22:37:37Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > I’m not sure that’s accurate. I’d say Jordan played with integrity in BB11, and also Rachel in BB13. At least, I don’t remember either of them deliberately stringing along fake allies who they then backstabbed, or making up and spreading lies to hurt other people’s games, etc… Jordan had a hitman (Jeff) who could play a little looser to help her game and keep her hands clean. And Rachel had Brendon to do some lying and backstabbing for her. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2014, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2014-big-brother-point-and-laugh-thread/691608/144 "2014-09-13T22:57:42Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > Jordan had a hitman (Jeff) who could play a little looser to help her game and keep her hands clean. And Rachel had Brendon to do some lying and backstabbing for her. The only example I can think of from BB11 was when Jeff put Russell up and out. I’m not sure how much that counts against Jordan’s integrity as a player. Russell was a paranoid time bomb that had to go. As far as Rachel, Brendon was the fourth person evicted so he wasn’t there long enough to do much backstabbing. Especially since when Brendon was evicted, it was the first time anybody _would_ put him up. Meaning no backstabbing is needed when your core alliance is always HoH. (The HoHs were Rachel, Jordan, Rachel, then Daniele was HoH and sent Brendon packing in week 4.) He did come back two weeks later, but was immediately voted right back out. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2014, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2014-big-brother-point-and-laugh-thread/691608/145 "2014-09-13T22:59:52Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > The only example I can think of from BB11 was when Jeff put Russell up and out. I’m not sure how much that counts against Jordan’s integrity as a player. Russell was a paranoid time bomb that had to go. > > As far as Rachel, Brendon was the fourth person evicted so he wasn’t there long enough to do much backstabbing. Especially since when Brendon was evicted, it was the first time anybody _would_ put him up. Meaning no backstabbing is needed when your core alliance is always HoH. (The HoHs were Rachel, Jordan, Rachel, then Daniele was HoH and sent Brendon packing in week 4.) He did come back two weeks later, but was immediately voted right back out. I’m not really arguing that those two having absolutely loyal allies makes them not playing with integrity. I just mean that it’s easier to play with integrity when you’ve got someone who is actually likely to play more for YOUR victory than their own. ---
**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2014, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2014-big-brother-point-and-laugh-thread/691608/146 "2014-09-13T23:14:28Z")
To win BB or Survivor, you DO eventually need to conive and lie to people. Just like real life. ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2014-big-brother-point-and-laugh-thread/691608/147 "2014-09-25T22:37:21Z")
Wow, no posts about the finale last night. Anyway, can’t say I’m too surprised at the results. Derrick won the $500k and Donny America’s Favorite Player. ---
**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2014, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2014-big-brother-point-and-laugh-thread/691608/148 "2014-09-26T00:40:10Z")
I just got to watch it. All I have to say is that the final HoH winner made a colossal blunder. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2014, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2014-big-brother-point-and-laugh-thread/691608/149 "2014-09-26T12:37:17Z")
It was so delicious to watch Frankie worm his way next to Julie and get ready for the grand pronouncement of how America loves him via the America’s Favorite vote, and then watch his vise grip control to not show how crestfallen he was when Julie announced that he didn’t even make the top 3. Perfection. ---
**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2014, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2014-big-brother-point-and-laugh-thread/691608/150 "2014-09-26T12:42:32Z")
Yeah, that was pretty good. Glad to see America got it right. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2014, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2014-big-brother-point-and-laugh-thread/691608/151 "2014-09-26T16:38:11Z")
> [@Southern\_Yankee](#): > > I just got to watch it. All I have to say is that the final HoH winner made a colossal blunder. I’m not really sure. This jury seemed to be aware of the level of gameplay that was involved in getting D&C to the end, and they didn’t seem like they were going to be too happy with a “Take Victoria to the end” strategy. They were actually talking about voting for Victoria if either C or D took her to Final Two, just to punish those two for taking the easy road. ---
**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2014, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2014-big-brother-point-and-laugh-thread/691608/152 "2014-09-26T16:52:09Z")
They may have voiced that idea, but I doubt they would have gone through with it. No one respected Victoria’s game enough. ---
**Author:** ![Dag\_Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@Dag\_Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dag_Otto)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2014, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2014-big-brother-point-and-laugh-thread/691608/153 "2014-09-26T17:27:31Z")
Didn’t Derrick also get a $50k America’s team bonus? ---
**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2014, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2014-big-brother-point-and-laugh-thread/691608/154 "2014-09-26T17:30:54Z")
Plus another 20k from the missions and one prize I think. ---
**Author:** ![interface2x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c0e974/32.png) [@interface2x](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/interface2x)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2014, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2014-big-brother-point-and-laugh-thread/691608/155 "2014-09-27T15:36:38Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > I’m not really sure. This jury seemed to be aware of the level of gameplay that was involved in getting D&C to the end, and they didn’t seem like they were going to be too happy with a “Take Victoria to the end” strategy. They were actually talking about voting for Victoria if either C or D took her to Final Two, just to punish those two for taking the easy road. According to [this link](http://www.buzzfeed.com/jarettwieselman/16-lingering-big-brother-16-questions-answered#339cpwa), if Cody had brought Victoria, he would have won 7-2. Still, though: > [@](#): > > “I would have regretted not taking him,” Cody said to BuzzFeed News. “Even if I won, I owed so much of my game to him, if I didn’t take him, it would have been out of my character.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2014-big-brother-point-and-laugh-thread/691608.md?page=7)