# The 2016 Election Schadenfreude thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 8, 2016, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-election-schadenfreude-thread/771111 "2016-11-08T22:08:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2017, 10:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-election-schadenfreude-thread/771111/122 "2017-10-27T10:50:39Z")
OK, so what’s your high? ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2017, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-election-schadenfreude-thread/771111/123 "2017-10-27T12:08:30Z")
> [@sleestak](#): > > Yet all Trump supporters are routinely described as racists/homophobes/ignorant on this board Got any ideas as to why? ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2017, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-election-schadenfreude-thread/771111/124 "2017-10-27T15:28:46Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > OK, so what’s your high? I’d say it’s the wonderful compassion shown after gun massacres by insisting that no one inject politics into a tragedy by asking whether reasonable gun controls could possibly help prevent future deaths. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2017, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-election-schadenfreude-thread/771111/125 "2017-10-27T15:48:12Z")
> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > …could possibly help prevent future deaths. Boy, you guys are all about how natural and organic you are! But tell me, what is more natural than death? In one case, passing away, old. in a bed surrounded by loved ones, another due to bleeding out from an unexpected introduction of metal pellets. Objectively speaking, the same thing! Checkmate, gun grabbers! (And even if it turned out that the Sandy Hook Unfortunate Events were totally fake, a truth stands out. That nothing, no outrage so vile and repulsive, is going to change these people’s minds! That, and snowflakes on my morning glories is the kind of morning its been…) ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2017, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-election-schadenfreude-thread/771111/126 "2017-10-27T16:11:41Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > the Sandy Hook Unfortunate Events were totally fake, … Gosh, I stand corrected because you are so right, er, correct about that. What could possibly be a greater gift to all those parents than proof that the “dead” “children” were merely crisis actors? Nothing the left does compares to this. Nothing. Nothing at all. Truly such honors are exclusively hogged by the right. We must make it illegal not to stand and salute whenever the false flag is flown during the national asylum. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2017, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-election-schadenfreude-thread/771111/127 "2017-10-27T17:10:07Z")
> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > I’d say it’s the wonderful compassion shown after gun massacres by insisting that no one inject politics into a tragedy by asking whether reasonable gun controls could possibly help prevent future deaths. Border patrol agents hovering over a [10-year-old girl with cerebral palsy](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/10-year-old-mexican-girl-cerebral-palsy-detained-border-patrol-n814756) who’d just undergone surgery as though she’s some kind of mob boss, taking her away from her parents and initiating the process of deporting her to a country she hasn’t lived in since she was three months old, is definitely a big step forward toward Making America Great Again, and something Trump voters should feel a lot of pride over— showing to the world, as it does, that we have our priorities firmly in order. It’s hard for me to imagine how that one will be topped, but my imagination is really taking a beating these days, and frankly could use some time off. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2017, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-election-schadenfreude-thread/771111/128 "2017-10-27T18:30:59Z")
You don’t need to imagine, you only need to wait. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2017, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-election-schadenfreude-thread/771111/129 "2017-10-27T21:23:40Z")
> [@The\_Tooth](#): > > You don’t need to imagine, you only need to wait. Or do some research of the past. > **[Elián González](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eli%C3%A1n_Gonz%C3%A1lez)** > > Elián González Brotons (born December 6, 1993) is a Cuban industrial engineer and politician who, as a young child, became embroiled in an international custody and immigration controversy in 2000 involving the governments of Cuba and the United States, his father Juan Miguel González Quintana, his other relatives in Cuba and in Miami, and Miami's Cuban community. > González's mother Elizabeth Brotons Rodríguez drowned in November 1999 while attempting to leave Cuba with González and her boyfrie... ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2017, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-election-schadenfreude-thread/771111/130 "2017-10-27T21:45:42Z")
I appreciate your stalwart dedication to Both-Sides-Do-It-ism, particularly when your examples are so embarrassingly feeble. It can’t be easy. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2017, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-election-schadenfreude-thread/771111/131 "2017-10-27T22:03:35Z")
Yeah. A gun pointed at a terrified child in a raid is feeble. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2017, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-election-schadenfreude-thread/771111/132 "2017-10-27T22:18:16Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > I appreciate your stalwart dedication to Both-Sides-Do-It-ism, particularly when your examples are so embarrassingly feeble. It can’t be easy. So feeble that it’s identical. ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2017, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-election-schadenfreude-thread/771111/133 "2017-10-27T22:46:38Z")
Yes, a several-months-long legal process resulting in a ruling by a _family court judge_ that the boy’s father held custody rights leading to a literal knock on a door raid even though they were entering a house full of weapons and people with criminal records [from your cite] who warned the government “If people try to come in, they could be hurt.” is exactly equivalent to a probably unprecedented event of ICE interfering in a case of a child requiring emergency surgery and being separated from her mother for the first time. #fakenews #limbo #howlowcantheygo ---
**Author:** ![sleestak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/919ad9/32.png) [@sleestak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sleestak)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2017, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-election-schadenfreude-thread/771111/134 "2017-10-28T22:19:14Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Got any ideas as to why? Certainly. It is much, much easier to labeled those you disagree with as evil than it is to take a step back, listen and try to understand. Not only is it easier, it has the added bonus of making the person doing the labelling feel all self-righteous and gooey inside for signaling their virtue. The country has descended to Twitter level discourse. If it can’t fit in 140 characters it is too long. Kang bad, Kodos good! Rational discourse is pretty much absent everywhere. Logic is for suckers, ideals are for losers. Emotions and group membership are all that matter. That leads to Trump vs. Clinton. In a rational world, neither would have been nominated. Trump got it because a lot of regular people are tired of being fed shit after the politicians promise steak. Clinton got it because the DNC bosses decided it was her turn. Throw in that capable and honest people won’t run because they do want to swim in the sewer that is our current political environment and we end up with this fucking mess. So, yeah, I know why. Slee ---
**Author:** ![Lobot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ce7236/32.png) [@Lobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobot)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2017, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-election-schadenfreude-thread/771111/135 "2017-10-29T00:56:21Z")
That story of the girl with cerebral palsy is so fucking disgusting, I don’t know where to start. It’s telling that the only response is whataboutism. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2017, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-election-schadenfreude-thread/771111/136 "2017-10-29T13:17:52Z")
> [@sleestak](#): > > Certainly. It is much, much easier to labeled those you disagree with as evil than it is to take a step back, listen and try to understand. OK, can you help us “understand” why racial and sexual animus and ignorance are \*not \*evil? > [@](#): > > The country has descended to Twitter level discourse. If it can’t fit in 140 characters it is too long. Kang bad, Kodos good! > > Rational discourse is pretty much absent everywhere. Logic is for suckers, ideals are for losers. Emotions and group membership are all that matter. Speak for yourself. It isn’t like that in every environment, just the ones you choose to wallow in. > [@](#): > > Throw in that capable and honest people won’t run because they do want to swim in the sewer that is our current political environment and we end up with this fucking mess. > > So, yeah, I know why. > > Slee Are you doing anything to fix the problem? If not, why not? Is it that it’s just so much fun to denounce and equivocate instead? ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-election-schadenfreude-thread/771111/137 "2017-10-30T01:10:27Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Yeah. A gun pointed at a terrified child in a raid is feeble. Well, when the gun being pointed is AGAIN under the orders of a Republican president, it does not seem to make much of a point. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-election-schadenfreude-thread/771111/138 "2017-10-30T01:57:18Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > It’s hard for me to imagine how that one will be topped, but my imagination is really taking a beating these days, and frankly could use some time off. > [@octopus](#): > > Or do some research of the past. > > [Elián González - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eli%C3%A1n_Gonz%C3%A1lez) 1. Parents, desperate for lifesaving medical care for their infant daughter, sneak into the US with her. Ten years later their girl has never been back to Mexico; she’s psychologically a five-year-old; she needs medical care. When she needs emergency surgery, Border Patrol catches her and plans to deport her back to Mexico, away from her parents and the life they’ve built for themselves and for her here. If she goes back, she’ll lack the medical care that she desperately needs. They want to send her back in spite of the wishes of everyone who loves her, and will separate her family. 2. A mother takes her son away from his father without telling him to flee to the United States. She drowns, and the boy is rescued. The dad, still in Cuba, immediately asks for his son back. More distant relatives in the United States take this six-year-old boy and refuse to return him to his father. They tell him nasty things about his dad and coach him on video to say he doesn’t want to go home. Despite unanimous court decisions to return the child to his dad, the distant relatives–backed by the anti-Castro political movement here–defied the courts. When custody was denied, they said that if anyone tried to remove the kid from their custody, “they could get hurt,” implying a shootout. The police, facing this threat, went in with overwhelming force and took the kids from the people who were at that point essentially kidnappers. The kid was returned to his only surviving parent, in the only country he’d ever lived in, according to the wishes over every living relative who had known him. These are alike…how? > [@tomndebb](#): > > Well, when the gun being pointed is AGAIN under the orders of a Republican president, it does not seem to make much of a point. 😃 Nitpick: Gonzalez’s case went down in 2000, during Clinton’s term. Or is that not what you meant? ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2017, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-election-schadenfreude-thread/771111/139 "2017-11-03T03:33:33Z")
It appears that someone RESISTed: > **[Departing Twitter employee deactivates Trump's account](https://apnews.com/united-states-government-e0d08e49bc1d468cb905bffd0f9ba14b)** > > The social media company Twitter says a customer support worker who was on his or her last day on the job deactivated President Donald Trump's account for a few minutes Thursday evening. > [@](#): > > President Donald Trump’s Twitter account briefly disappeared Thursday evening, but is now back up and running … Twitter later said the deactivation “was done by a Twitter customer support employee who did this on the employee’s last day.” ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2017, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-election-schadenfreude-thread/771111/140 "2017-11-03T15:22:22Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > These are alike…how? I like to think of it as an intelligence test. I call it QI. If you proclaim that vastly dissimilar events are equivalent on the basis of “both sides do it” or believe someone who claims this, your QI is up over 100. QI scores can be calculated for most online discourse. If you’re a birther or truther or moon hoaxer, or a creationist or a climate denier, or think that Donald Trump doesn’t lie every time he opens his mouth, your QI is very high indeed. It’s a fun game reading some threads here on the Dope and assigning QI to the posters. To oneself, of course. Doing it out loud would be jerkish. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2017, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-election-schadenfreude-thread/771111/141 "2017-11-09T23:59:29Z")
LOL, they really went through with it: [http://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/359531-protesters-scream-at-the-sky-to-mark-anniversary-of-trumps-election](http://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/359531-protesters-scream-at-the-sky-to-mark-anniversary-of-trumps-election) I hope this becomes an annual event, at least through 2020/4. :p [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-election-schadenfreude-thread/771111.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-election-schadenfreude-thread/771111.md?page=8)