# The 2016 Election Schadenfreude thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-election-schadenfreude-thread/771111>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 8, 2016, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-election-schadenfreude-thread/771111 "2016-11-08T22:08:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brown_eyed_girl/32/3574_2.png) [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brown_Eyed_Girl)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2017, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-election-schadenfreude-thread/771111/142 "2017-11-10T00:12:54Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> LOL, they really went through with it: [http://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/359531-protesters-scream-at-the-sky-to-mark-anniversary-of-trumps-election](http://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/359531-protesters-scream-at-the-sky-to-mark-anniversary-of-trumps-election)
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> I hope this becomes an annual event, at least through 2020/4. :p

Given his sinking approval ratings, no doubt by then the din will be deafening.

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**Author:** ![Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spectre_of_pithecanthropus/32/12343_2.png) [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spectre_of_Pithecanthropus)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2017, 7:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-election-schadenfreude-thread/771111/143 "2017-11-30T07:30:48Z")

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> [@Frankenstein\_Monster](#):
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> I’m a (very) bleeding heart liberal myself but even I never thought Trump’s presidency is going to be as bad as some people seem to think.

Do you still feel the same way?

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2017, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-election-schadenfreude-thread/771111/144 "2017-12-02T01:06:10Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> [Keith Olbermann is ‘out his damn mind’](https://pjmedia.com/video/keith-olbermann-is-more-insane-than-ever/) (trigger warning: dementia is a sad thing to watch)
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> Somebody mentioned in another thread that the left needs an Alex Jones of their own. Hey guys, I think I found him for you.

I had to go back and read this thread from the beginning (and it was hilarious, particularly the first 20 or so posts) to find this post where I brought up Keith Olbermann’s ranting. He is now “[retiring from political commentary](http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/11/28/greg-gutfeld-monologue-keith-olbermann-retiring-commentary-about-trump)”. Keith, we bid you adieu.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2017, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-election-schadenfreude-thread/771111/145 "2017-12-02T04:54:38Z")

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Lock him up!

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2017, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-election-schadenfreude-thread/771111/146 "2017-12-02T06:43:49Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> 1. Parents, desperate for lifesaving medical care for their infant daughter, sneak into the US with her. Ten years later their girl has never been back to Mexico; she’s psychologically a five-year-old; she needs medical care. When she needs emergency surgery, Border Patrol catches her and plans to deport her back to Mexico, away from her parents and the life they’ve built for themselves and for her here. If she goes back, she’ll lack the medical care that she desperately needs. They want to send her back in spite of the wishes of everyone who loves her, and will separate her family.
> 2. A mother takes her son away from his father without telling him to flee to the United States. She drowns, and the boy is rescued. The dad, still in Cuba, immediately asks for his son back. More distant relatives in the United States take this six-year-old boy and refuse to return him to his father. They tell him nasty things about his dad and coach him on video to say he doesn’t want to go home. Despite unanimous court decisions to return the child to his dad, the distant relatives–backed by the anti-Castro political movement here–defied the courts. When custody was denied, they said that if anyone tried to remove the kid from their custody, “they could get hurt,” implying a shootout. The police, facing this threat, went in with overwhelming force and took the kids from the people who were at that point essentially kidnappers. The kid was returned to his only surviving parent, in the only country he’d ever lived in, according to the wishes over every living relative who had known him.
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> These are alike…how?
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> Nitpick: Gonzalez’s case went down in 2000, during Clinton’s term. Or is that not what you meant?

So just to be clear, unaccompanied minors should be sent back to their parents?

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2017, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-election-schadenfreude-thread/771111/147 "2017-12-02T12:47:43Z")

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You apparently mean “clear” in its colloquial sense, much the way my childhood peers referred to things that were enjoyable/exciting “bad” or “wicked,” or someone who has just trod barefoot into fresh dog shit might exclaim “great”?

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2017, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-election-schadenfreude-thread/771111/148 "2017-12-02T13:33:41Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> I hope this becomes an annual event, at least through 2020/4. 😛

Why? Are we better off as a nation and a people for it?

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2017, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-election-schadenfreude-thread/771111/149 "2017-12-02T13:51:40Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> You apparently mean “clear” in its colloquial sense, much the way my childhood peers referred to things that were enjoyable/exciting “bad” or “wicked,” or someone who has just trod barefoot into fresh dog shit might exclaim “great”?

The Elian case has always intrigued me, because the people most vociferous that he must be sent back to Cuba were the same people who were generally liberal on immigration. And then a decade later, thought it the height of cruelty to send unaccompanied minors back to their families.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2017, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-election-schadenfreude-thread/771111/150 "2017-12-02T14:00:17Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> So just to be clear, unaccompanied minors should be sent back to their parents?

Just to be clear, not necessarily.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2017, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-election-schadenfreude-thread/771111/151 "2017-12-02T14:30:14Z")

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There should be a fairly easy to explain rationale for why Elian should go back but not a Honduran kid.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2017, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-election-schadenfreude-thread/771111/152 "2017-12-02T14:55:39Z")

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it’s called Family Values, something you may have heard of. Elian’s surviving parent wanted him back home. The family of “a Honduran kid” going alone typically wants him to go have a better life.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2017, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-election-schadenfreude-thread/771111/153 "2017-12-02T15:57:35Z")

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BTW, since you’re all wondering, yes, [“Miami Relatives” is a band name.](https://www.allmusic.com/album/miami-relatives-mw0000670583)

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2017, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-election-schadenfreude-thread/771111/154 "2017-12-02T16:46:11Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> There should be a fairly easy to explain rationale for why Elian should go back but not a Honduran kid.

There is, but it beggars belief that you need me to explain it to you. Take a minute and think about it; reread my previous response. If you’re still unable to figure it out, tell me, and I’ll take you at face value and explain it.

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2017, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-election-schadenfreude-thread/771111/155 "2017-12-02T16:49:19Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Why? Are we better off as a nation and a people for it?

Because it’s hilarious, and laughter is the best medicine.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2017, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-election-schadenfreude-thread/771111/156 "2017-12-02T16:59:02Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> LOL, they really went through with it: [http://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/359531-protesters-scream-at-the-sky-to-mark-anniversary-of-trumps-election](http://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/359531-protesters-scream-at-the-sky-to-mark-anniversary-of-trumps-election)
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> I hope this becomes an annual event, at least through 2020/4. :p

If you’re not screaming on the inside (at the very least), you’re not paying attention.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2017, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-election-schadenfreude-thread/771111/157 "2017-12-02T17:03:32Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> Because it’s hilarious, and laughter is the best medicine.

Meuller investigation is the best delivery system.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2017, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-election-schadenfreude-thread/771111/158 "2017-12-02T17:26:58Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> Because it’s hilarious, and laughter is the best medicine.

At this point, you’re just quoting the Joker.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2017, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-election-schadenfreude-thread/771111/159 "2017-12-02T18:01:33Z")

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Laughter gonna be the only medicine poor folks can afford. Outside of mud and leeches, of course, but the mud will be toxic and the leeches will refuse anyone not a Republican Congressman. Professional courtesy, you understand…

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2017, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-election-schadenfreude-thread/771111/160 "2017-12-02T18:36:26Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> Because it’s hilarious, and laughter is the best medicine.

What do you find funny about it? Do please let us explore the topic.

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2017, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-election-schadenfreude-thread/771111/161 "2017-12-02T19:28:12Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> What do you find funny about it? Do please let us explore the topic.

A bunch of sore losers from the last election are still so sore about it a year later that they wanted to get together and scream futilely at the sky.

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