# The 2016 nominees will be... **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [October 4, 2011, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-nominees-will-be/598620 "2011-10-04T22:05:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2011, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-nominees-will-be/598620/21 "2011-10-07T20:20:20Z")
Personally, I think he’s done a great job: He’s a friend of education (which is my #1 priority in politics), and he’s kept the state in the black (though of course he doesn’t deserve all the credit for that). And most of the state agrees-- He’s one of the most approved-of governors in the country. The big question, of course, is that there are a lot of nationally-significant issues that don’t really come up at the state issue, and I don’t know how he stands on those. But then, that’s largely true of any governor. ---
**Author:** ![Koxinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4af34b/32.png) [@Koxinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koxinga)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 9:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-nominees-will-be/598620/22 "2011-10-12T09:30:24Z")
2016 might be a little early, but for 2020 I predict George P. Bush as a little brown horse candidate. ---
**Author:** ![GreasyJack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/df705f/32.png) [@GreasyJack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreasyJack)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 9:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-nominees-will-be/598620/23 "2011-10-12T09:39:14Z")
Obama will Grover Cleveland it. You heard it here first. ---
**Author:** ![Koxinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4af34b/32.png) [@Koxinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koxinga)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 9:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-nominees-will-be/598620/24 "2011-10-12T09:43:02Z")
> [@GreasyJack](#): > > Obama will Grover Cleveland it. You heard it here first. [Beat you to it!](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=627582) ---
**Author:** ![GreasyJack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/df705f/32.png) [@GreasyJack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreasyJack)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 9:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-nominees-will-be/598620/25 "2011-10-12T09:56:04Z")
> [@Gadarene](#): > > Apparently nobody has anything to say about Schweitzer except me or you, Chronos. 🙂 How has he been as a governor? I’m curious. Schweitzer is a great governor who seems to be having an enormous amount of fun in the process despite (or perhaps because of) a sometimes very hostile legislature. But so much of his schtick is uniquely Montanan, I don’t know how much of it would really translate into national office. I do also think that his claim that national office would be a step down in his mind isn’t just the same old insincerely modest line most candidates use. I think it’d be great if he ran, but I don’t know how well the rest of the country would respond to him. > [@Knoxiga](#): > > Beat you to it! Nuts! :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-nominees-will-be/598620/26 "2011-10-12T16:57:07Z")
> [@](#): > > But so much of his schtick is uniquely Montanan, I don’t know how much of it would really translate into national office. I dunno… I’m not a native Montanan, and at the time I first voted for him, I didn’t even really consider myself a Montanan at all. But he still appealed to me just fine. And of course, even if he doesn’t appeal at the national level, that’s at least partly due to the fact that so far, he hasn’t been trying to. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-nominees-will-be/598620/27 "2011-10-12T18:06:28Z")
> [@pkbites](#): > > Moderate my butt. Christie is as liberal as Republicans come. He’s pro-gun control, all over the map on abortion, and his views on illegal immigrants and global warming are to the left of Al Gore. > > Any one of those issues could sink a Republican candidate, regardless of the Tea Party. But all of them? Plus he has an extremely pushy & abrasive personality and he looks ridiculous. > > He doesn’t have snowballs chance in hell of being the nominee **EVER!** Well Romney is the front runner now. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-nominees-will-be/598620/28 "2011-10-12T18:15:34Z")
I agree that the next candidates are on no lists yet. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2011, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-nominees-will-be/598620/29 "2011-10-13T00:55:53Z")
> [@GreasyJack](#): > > Obama will Grover Cleveland it. You heard it here first. This requires the world-wide depression to be ongoing – and even worsening – in 2015 and 2016 ☹ ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2011, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-nominees-will-be/598620/30 "2011-10-13T01:24:17Z")
> [@littlespeedysuperbike](#): > > Meanwhile, Al Franken steadily plods along, until he finishes 2nd to two different candidates in Iowa and New Hampshire. Vote for Al Franken, International Communist Revolutionary! [You’ll be glad you did!](http://snltranscripts.jt.org/78/78cfranken.phtml)😃 ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2011, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-nominees-will-be/598620/31 "2011-10-14T02:37:51Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > I agree that the next candidates are on no lists yet. My ass. Keep an eye peeled for Mark Warner of Virginia. He might be the most popular high profile Virginian since Robert E Lee. He gave the 2008 keynote for a reason. ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2011, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-nominees-will-be/598620/32 "2011-10-23T01:22:32Z")
> [@pkbites](#): > > Moderate my butt. Christie is as liberal as Republicans come. He’s pro-gun control, all over the map on abortion, and his views on illegal immigrants and global warming are to the left of Al Gore. > > Any one of those issues could sink a Republican candidate, regardless of the Tea Party. But all of them? Plus he has an extremely pushy & abrasive personality and he looks ridiculous. > > He doesn’t have snowballs chance in hell of being the nominee **EVER!** His biggest appeal to the GOP base is that he is rude. But how well is yelling at teachers going to go over outside the base voters as a reason to vote for someone? The novelty of rudeness will wear off. Plus he wouldn’t survive a primary. He has called the sharia law pushers crazy before. There goes his evangelical support. ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2011, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-nominees-will-be/598620/33 "2011-10-23T01:27:24Z")
> [@GreasyJack](#): > > Schweitzer is a great governor who seems to be having an enormous amount of fun in the process despite (or perhaps because of) a sometimes very hostile legislature. But so much of his schtick is uniquely Montanan, I don’t know how much of it would really translate into national office. I do also think that his claim that national office would be a step down in his mind isn’t just the same old insincerely modest line most candidates use. I think it’d be great if he ran, but I don’t know how well the rest of the country would respond to him. > > Nuts! :smack: Right now Schweitzer is taking a lesson from Vermont and asking for a federal waiver so he can create a more socialized health care system than the federal affordable care act. He wants legislation that would give Montana a system similar to the Canadian Saskatchewan system. > **[Schweitzer calls for universal health care](https://billingsgazette.com/news/state-and-regional/montana/article_cf63727a-ea09-11e0-85fd-001cc4c03286.html)** > > HELENA - Gov. Brian Schweitzer said Wednesday he will ask the U.S. government to let Montana set up its own universal health care program, taking his rhetorical fight over health [http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/interview-schweitzers-plan-to-bring-canadian-health-care-to-montana/2011/10/03/gIQA025JIL\_blog.html](http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/interview-schweitzers-plan-to-bring-canadian-health-care-to-montana/2011/10/03/gIQA025JIL_blog.html) If he succeeds (and even if he doesn’t, just so long as it looks like he is sincere) that will give him a lot of pull with progressives come 2016. A governor who signs a law creating a state wide socialized health care system will be treated like a king by progressives and liberals IMO. I think liberals make up 16-20% of the electorate, so nearly 40% of the democratic party is liberals. That alone (plus labor support if he is seen as pro-worker) should push him through the primary if he runs. ---
**Author:** ![Da\_Mikster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bb73d2/32.png) [@Da\_Mikster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Da_Mikster)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2011, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-nominees-will-be/598620/34 "2011-10-23T22:04:53Z")
A threeway tie between Dale Gribble, Archie Bunker, and Peter Griffin… ---
**Author:** ![What\_the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f4b2a3/32.png) [@What\_the](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_the)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2011, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-nominees-will-be/598620/35 "2011-10-26T12:35:14Z")
> [@GreasyJack](#): > > Obama will Grover Cleveland it. You heard it here first. Interesting …how do you see that hapenning? I can’t see the economy still being in the tank and the Dems arguing that Obama did good things while it’s still Bush’s fault and the incumbent Republican did even worse things. I can see some Democrats making his 2012 loss about race but I can’t see that working. I guess I can see them threatening to destroy the party if the rest didn’t go along though. ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2011, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-nominees-will-be/598620/36 "2011-10-26T13:12:39Z")
> [@What\_the](#): > > I can’t see the economy still being in the tank and the Dems arguing that Obama did good things while it’s still Bush’s fault and the incumbent Republican did even worse things. Is there any part of that argument you dispute? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2011, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-nominees-will-be/598620/37 "2011-10-26T13:54:31Z")
> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#): > > Republicans: > Mitt Romney (if he wins) > Rick Perry (if he wins) > Chris Christie > Marco Rubio > Bobby Jindal > Scott Brown (if he is reelected next year) > Mark Kirk (?) > > Democrats: > Andrew Cuomo > Hillary Clinton > > I’m betting the 2016 nominees are on this list > [@USCDiver](#): > > I’ll take your bet. $100? > [@Chronos](#): > > I’m not sure it would be legal for **Qin** to take that bet. Well, kinda, but not for a hundred bucks. It’ll be **Qin** ’s baseball glove against **Diver** ’s skateboard. Not the cool one with the Tony Hawk logo; the Power Rangers one he hasn’t used for a couple of years… ---
**Author:** ![What\_the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f4b2a3/32.png) [@What\_the](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_the)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2011, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-nominees-will-be/598620/38 "2011-10-26T18:30:12Z")
> [@tnetennba](#): > > Is there any part of that argument you dispute? It’s not all Bush’s fault…Obama’s done more harm than good … and the Republican between 2012 and 2016 can only be better in comparison. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2011, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-nominees-will-be/598620/39 "2011-10-26T20:00:52Z")
> [@pkbites](#): > > Moderate my butt. Christie is as liberal as Republicans come. He’s pro-gun control, all over the map on abortion, and his views on illegal immigrants and global warming are to the left of Al Gore. **EVER!** Wow, when you describe him like that, you almost want to make me vote for him! I don’t think Biden should be ruled out as a 2016 candidate, although certainly not a favorite to win. Clinton has to be seen as the front runner though, although I believe her negatives are pretty high (i.e. a lot of people _really_ hate her). ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2011, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-nominees-will-be/598620/40 "2011-10-26T21:34:53Z")
> [@](#): > > I don’t think Biden should be ruled out as a 2016 candidate, although certainly not a favorite to win. Either he’ll be quietly talked into not running (if he doesn’t come to that conclusion on his own, as I consider most likely), or he’ll win the nomination. I can’t see anyone seriously running against a sitting VP, from within the same party. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-nominees-will-be/598620.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-nominees-will-be/598620.md?page=3)