# The 2016 Republican candidates

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-republican-candidates/709444>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [January 9, 2015, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-republican-candidates/709444 "2015-01-09T22:38:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-republican-candidates/709444/1022 "2015-03-11T15:30:53Z")

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I’ll be betting on Romney and Rubio. But seriously, is there interest in such an experimental auction?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-republican-candidates/709444/1023 "2015-03-11T15:52:16Z")

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Sure, that could be fun. Count me in.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-republican-candidates/709444/1024 "2015-03-11T16:06:10Z")

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Started out, I was kidding about the Draft Romney movement. Now, not so sure…

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-republican-candidates/709444/1025 "2015-03-11T16:06:37Z")

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> [@Sinaptics](#):
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> I’ve got $10 on the the self-centered, lying, crazy a-hole.

Put me down for a sawbuck on the long-term party insider who portrays himself as a maverick.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-republican-candidates/709444/1026 "2015-03-11T16:14:37Z")

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My money is on the very conservative candidate with centrist cred.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-republican-candidates/709444/1027 "2015-03-11T16:20:00Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> Would it be fun to organize an auction, in which Dopers bid to estimate the chances of various contenders winning the nomination?

Only if it is an actual real-life slave auction.

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**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-republican-candidates/709444/1028 "2015-03-11T18:17:07Z")

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I’ll put down ten on the guy who panders to the “original intent of the Founders” crowd.

Hey, I know it’s a longshot…

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-republican-candidates/709444/1029 "2015-03-11T19:08:09Z")

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In my crystal ball… I see a man…a white man… he’s praising Ronald Reagan… he’s against abortion… he loves that second amendment… hates Obamacare… his name is… Damn, it fogged up.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-republican-candidates/709444/1030 "2015-03-11T19:54:06Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> In my crystal ball… I see a man…a white man… he’s praising Ronald Reagan… he’s against abortion… he loves that second amendment… hates Obamacare… his name is… Damn, it fogged up.

Legion.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-republican-candidates/709444/1031 "2015-03-11T21:18:59Z")

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Jindal can’t get enough of the [Kool-Aid](http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/bobby-jindal-obama-wiping-out-freedom-through-secularization#sthash.8VEEgYsX.dpuf):

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> He lamented that “we have never before had a president this ideologically extreme, who does not believe in American exceptionalism, does not believe in the American dream that you and I were taught, does not believe in religious liberty and has effectively, for six years, done everything he could to change our culture on all three of those areas to become a new country, a new American dream, a new conception of liberty.”

It’s like he is mainlining the spittle that hangs from Hannity’s lip.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2015, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-republican-candidates/709444/1032 "2015-03-12T02:08:34Z")

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I actually endorse that statement.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2015, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-republican-candidates/709444/1033 "2015-03-12T02:45:17Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Jindal can’t get enough of the [Kool-Aid](http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/bobby-jindal-obama-wiping-out-freedom-through-secularization#sthash.8VEEgYsX.dpuf):It’s like he is mainlining the spittle that hangs from Hannity’s lip.

“A new country, a new American dream, a new conception of liberty” actually sounds like something promised, not threatened, in a party platform or a presidential campaign ad (though not in any of Obama’s AFAICR).

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2015, 11:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-republican-candidates/709444/1034 "2015-03-12T11:13:11Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> I actually endorse that statement.

You seriously believe Obama doesn’t believe in American exceptionalism, or the American dream, or religious liberty, and has tried to “change our culture” to “become a new country”??

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2015, 11:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-republican-candidates/709444/1035 "2015-03-12T11:18:45Z")

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I seriously believe that, although I’m not going to debate it here because the moderator will kick me in the nads.🙂

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2015, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-republican-candidates/709444/1036 "2015-03-12T11:21:33Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> I seriously believe that, although I’m not going to debate it here because the moderator will kick me in the nads.🙂

No wonder [you bought](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18036281&postcount=2995) the birther claims…

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2015, 11:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-republican-candidates/709444/1037 "2015-03-12T11:22:40Z")

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I bought only one in particular. I never actually believed he was born in Kenya. I just thought he’d pulled a Warren on his university application.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2015, 11:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-republican-candidates/709444/1038 "2015-03-12T11:28:27Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> I bought only one in particular. I never actually believed he was born in Kenya. I just thought he’d pulled a Warren on his university application.

LOL. You only believed one totally ridiculous, unfounded and baseless accusation by crazy people about a man you have a serious personal dislike for.

When are you going to recognize that you have a fundamental problem with objectivity regarding Obama or anything relating to him?

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2015, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-republican-candidates/709444/1039 "2015-03-12T11:30:43Z")

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How is it ridiculous when a progressive hero did pretty much the same thing? That’s the whole reason I bought the story, was because of Warren.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2015, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-republican-candidates/709444/1040 "2015-03-12T11:36:05Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> How is it ridiculous when a progressive hero did pretty much the same thing? That’s the whole reason I bought the story, was because of Warren.

It’s ridiculous because it’s totally baseless and unfounded. You heard or read someone somewhere say “Obama put Kenya on his college application!” and _you believed it without checking_. It’s just another demonstration of how your personal hatred of the man spills into every single issue – you believe ridiculous claims about the President, as long as they’re negative, _without fucking checking the facts_.

Would you believe “McCain put Congo as his place of birth on his college application” without checking?

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2015, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-republican-candidates/709444/1041 "2015-03-12T11:49:41Z")

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Would you believe that Bobby Jindal has damaged Louisiana’s fiscal situation without checking?

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