# The 2016 Republican candidates

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-republican-candidates/709444>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [January 9, 2015, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-republican-candidates/709444 "2015-01-09T22:38:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2015, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-republican-candidates/709444/1822 "2015-07-23T03:47:59Z")

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Or voting. Despite mail-in voting they had exceptionally low turnout, even for a midterm.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2015, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-republican-candidates/709444/1823 "2015-07-23T11:36:06Z")

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I think Rick Perry is about as sharp as a bowling ball, but I’ve got to give him some props for his takedown of Trump. At last someone has the balls to say “Have you no sense of decency?” And bonus points for him giving proper attribution.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2015, 11:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-republican-candidates/709444/1824 "2015-07-23T11:39:50Z")

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Perry has his good points, but no. He’s just not bright enough and reminds me more of GWB than GWB’s own brother does.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2015, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-republican-candidates/709444/1825 "2015-07-23T12:20:22Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> Or voting. Despite mail-in voting they had exceptionally low turnout, even for a midterm.

Once again, you are wrong.

1. Colorado had the 4th highest turnout of all states in the 2014 election.

2. Voter turnout of eligible voters in Colorado in 2010 was 51.4%. In 2014, 54.5%.

Why, I mean seriously, why do you continue to make these wild assertions about which you know nothing, and which the most cursory research proves you wrong? Really, I don’t get it. Where in the world are you getting your “information”?

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2015, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-republican-candidates/709444/1826 "2015-07-23T12:47:04Z")

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That was what was reported on the news the day after the election. Maybe Colorado was accepting ballots late?

In any case, it’s good to be wrong this time. That means Republicans won with relatively high turnout.

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2015, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-republican-candidates/709444/1827 "2015-07-23T12:50:44Z")

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> [@Frank](#):
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> Why, I mean seriously, why do you continue to make these wild assertions about which you know nothing, and which the most cursory research proves you wrong? Really, I don’t get it. Where in the world are you getting your “information”?

Isn’t 54.5% rather low in absolute terms? Nearly half the voting population didn’t bother to vote. You know, you and **adaher** can both be right - it just depends upon your perspective.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2015, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-republican-candidates/709444/1828 "2015-07-23T12:52:09Z")

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No, I was wrong. I heard on TV that they were about 35%.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2015, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-republican-candidates/709444/1829 "2015-07-23T14:37:11Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> That was what was reported on the news the day after the election. Maybe Colorado was accepting ballots late?

May I suggest that you find a more accurate source of news, or else double-check half-remembered factoids before you post them?

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> That means Republicans won with relatively high turnout.

The Republicans flipped the U.S. Senate seat, and the State Senate went from 18-17 D to 18-17 R. The Democratic governor won reelection, and the State House remains in Democratic control. Call it a win if you like.

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2015, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-republican-candidates/709444/1830 "2015-07-23T16:08:57Z")

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> [@Frank](#):
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> Why, I mean seriously, why do you continue to make these wild assertions about which you know nothing, and which the most cursory research proves you wrong?

This is a rhetorical question, right?

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2015, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-republican-candidates/709444/1831 "2015-07-23T16:16:37Z")

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> [@Frank](#):
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> Why, I mean seriously, why do you continue to make these wild assertions about which you know nothing, and which the most cursory research proves you wrong? Really, I don’t get it. Where in the world are you getting your “information”?

Why ask the question when you know his answer will be not just wrong, but wildly wrong?

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2015, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-republican-candidates/709444/1832 "2015-07-23T17:25:36Z")

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Entertainment.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2015, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-republican-candidates/709444/1833 "2015-07-23T18:15:40Z")

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Even after his FEC filing, still a lotta questions about Trump’s fortune: [What we know - and don't know - about Donald Trump's wealth](http://money.cnn.com/2015/07/22/news/donald-trump-finances/index.html?iid=ob_article_hotListpool&iid=obnetwork)

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2015, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-republican-candidates/709444/1834 "2015-07-24T03:28:19Z")

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What if The Donald ran as an independent? Probably bad news for the GOP: [http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/23/politics/donald-trump-third-party/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/23/politics/donald-trump-third-party/index.html)

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2015, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-republican-candidates/709444/1835 "2015-07-24T03:29:44Z")

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Probably? I’d leave the board for awhile. No suspense in the election if Trump is in as an independent.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2015, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-republican-candidates/709444/1836 "2015-07-24T19:32:15Z")

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[One of the indictments against Perry has been dismissed](http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/07/24/appeals-court-tosses-1-2-indictments-against-rick-perry/?intcmp=hplnws).

Predictions:

- The other one will be as well.
- His campaign won’t take off.
- Democrats will continue to assert that he was guilty, that the process was corrupt, etc.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2015, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-republican-candidates/709444/1837 "2015-07-24T19:59:55Z")

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Huh. Maybe his new glasses did some good, after all.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2015, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-republican-candidates/709444/1838 "2015-07-24T23:21:35Z")

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It was the dumbest indictment ever anyway. He vetoed a bill. He has that power.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2015, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-republican-candidates/709444/1839 "2015-07-25T14:49:32Z")

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Exactly: If he _didn’t_ have the power, then it wouldn’t have been an issue. The claim was, after all, that he was abusing his power.

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2015, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-republican-candidates/709444/1840 "2015-07-25T15:25:26Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> It was the dumbest indictment ever anyway. He vetoed a bill. He has that power.

If it was Gov. Perry (D), you would be insisting that it was the worst abuse of power in the history of the republic. And criminal.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2015, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-republican-candidates/709444/1841 "2015-07-26T02:01:26Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Exactly: If he _didn’t_ have the power, then it wouldn’t have been an issue. The claim was, after all, that he was abusing his power.

Unless he was bribed to cast a veto, he can veto a bill for any reason he wishes. Congress and the President at the federal level have been using their powers to coerce since this country was founded. If the President found out that one of his agencies was full of drunks, he could certainly veto new funding for that agency.

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