# The 2016 Republican candidates **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 9, 2015, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-republican-candidates/709444 "2015-01-09T22:38:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 97
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2015, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-republican-candidates/709444/1922 "2015-09-04T15:46:17Z")
[Here’s Huckabee’s latest campaign move: > [@](#): > > Republican presidential candidate Mike Huckabee says he plans to meet with the Kentucky clerk who has been jailed because she refuses to issue marriage licenses to gay couples. > > Huckabee said Friday that he would meet with Rowan County Clerk Kim Davis next week and hold a rally in support of her. ]([http://bigstory.ap.org/article/47d0af561ade453c9099acfbc9310d4e/latest-jailed-clerks-husband-says-she-wont-resign](http://bigstory.ap.org/article/47d0af561ade453c9099acfbc9310d4e/latest-jailed-clerks-husband-says-she-wont-resign)) ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2015, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-republican-candidates/709444/1923 "2015-09-04T22:17:30Z")
Huck represents the fundie Christian voters. There are enough of them that they are entitled to a candidate. Complaining about Huckabee doing what fundies do is like complaining about Sanders doing what socialists do. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2015, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-republican-candidates/709444/1924 "2015-09-05T00:40:47Z")
> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > Try to picture Rick Perry giving sugar. Sugar? You mean, like, heroin? Goodhair is a dealer? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2015, 9:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-republican-candidates/709444/1925 "2015-09-05T09:31:21Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Huck represents the fundie Christian voters. There are enough of them that they are entitled to a candidate. Complaining about Huckabee doing what fundies do is like complaining about Sanders doing what socialists do. I’m not Snowboarder Bo but how was his post a complaint? ---
**Author:** ![zoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/71c47a/32.png) [@zoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoo)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2015, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-republican-candidates/709444/1926 "2015-09-05T11:07:20Z")
> [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](#): > > I’m not Snowboarder Bo but how was his post a complaint? It may be that **adaher** thought this was the SRIOTD thread. It’s not easy to tell them apart. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2015, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-republican-candidates/709444/1927 "2015-09-05T12:11:34Z")
> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > Try to picture Rick Perry giving sugar. Thanks, now could you send me some brain bleach through the Internet? :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2015, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-republican-candidates/709444/1928 "2015-09-05T14:50:27Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > Thanks, now could you send me some brain bleach through the Internet? :eek: Sure, bro. Just picture Margaret Dumont instead of Rick Perry. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2015, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-republican-candidates/709444/1929 "2015-09-05T16:53:00Z")
Marxist! ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2015, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-republican-candidates/709444/1930 "2015-09-05T17:00:01Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Huck represents the fundie Christian voters. There are enough of them that they are entitled to a candidate. Complaining about Huckabee doing what fundies do is like complaining about Sanders doing what socialists do. I’m gonna bookmark this because it may be the dumbest thing you’ve written all month. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2015, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-republican-candidates/709444/1931 "2015-09-05T18:32:59Z")
If fundy Christians are “entitled” a candidate, then so are football fans and cat owners. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2015, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-republican-candidates/709444/1932 "2015-09-05T18:49:15Z")
“So what if he is mediocre? There are a lot of mediocre judges and people and lawyers. They are entitled to a little representation, aren’t they? We can’t have all Brandeises, Cardozos, and Frankfurters and stuff like that there.” - Roman L. Hruska, (R, Wheat) ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2015, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-republican-candidates/709444/1933 "2015-09-06T04:17:36Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > I’m gonna bookmark this because it may be the dumbest thing you’ve written all month. Puh-leeze. It’s only the 5th. Rest assured he’ll come up with something dumber before October 1. I would bet before next Wednesday. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2015, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-republican-candidates/709444/1934 "2015-09-06T04:40:33Z")
How is it dumb to simply point out that in a democracy, if enough people have a worldview, there will be a candidate who represents that worldview? Do you think that people with sufficiently dumb views should not be represented? If so, then why not take away their vote? Seems more efficient. So here’s an idea: all people who do not believe in evolution will lose their right to vote. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2015, 10:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-republican-candidates/709444/1935 "2015-09-06T10:36:37Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > I’m gonna bookmark this because it may be the dumbest thing you’ve written all month. > [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > Puh-leeze. It’s only the 5th. Rest assured he’ll come up with something dumber before October 1. > > I would bet before next Wednesday. Knock it off. [/Moderating] ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2015, 10:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-republican-candidates/709444/1936 "2015-09-06T10:52:07Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Huck represents the fundie Christian voters. **There are enough of them that they are entitled to a candidate.** Complaining about Huckabee doing what fundies do is like complaining about Sanders doing what socialists do. > [@adaher](#): > > How is it dumb to simply point out that in a democracy, if enough people have a worldview, there will be a candidate who represents that worldview? > > Do you think that people with sufficiently dumb views should not be represented? If so, then why not take away their vote? Seems more efficient. No one is “entitled” to a candidate. Anyone who can gather as a group is entitled to support a person to be “their” candidate, but that is not the same thing. Your statement indicates that criminals, the mentally ill, and developmentally delayed are “entitled” to a candidate. (I am sure that we could find partisans of most parties who could “recommend” the persons to be the candidates of such groups in other parties.) On the other hand, it is equally legitimate when evaluating candidates to note that their presumed constituencies would place them outside one’s consideration–as with your labeling Sanders a socialist. > [@adaher](#): > > So here’s an idea: all people who do not believe in evolution will lose their right to vote. Tempting, but I still would not support it. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2015, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-republican-candidates/709444/1937 "2015-09-06T11:07:08Z")
Because you’d lose an awful lot of Democrats, 38% to be precise.🙂 > **[Republicans, Democrats Differ on Creationism](https://news.gallup.com/poll/108226/Republicans-Democrats-Differ-Creationism.aspx)** > > There is a significant political divide in Americans’ beliefs about the origin of human beings, with 60% of Republicans saying humans were created in their present form by God 10,000 years ago, a belief shared by only 40% of independents and 38% of... Which is why it shouldn’t be surprising that there’s a non-evolution-believing, anti-gay dude in mainstream politics. Quite a few of them, actually. If there weren’t, it would mean our democracy wasn’t working. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2015, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-republican-candidates/709444/1938 "2015-09-06T12:27:20Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > How is it dumb to simply point out that in a democracy, if enough people have a worldview, there will be a candidate who represents that worldview? > > Do you think that people with sufficiently dumb views should not be represented? If so, then why not take away their vote? Seems more efficient. So here’s an idea: all people who do not believe in evolution will lose their right to vote. It doesn’t mean we shouldn’t criticize and mock Huckabee. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2015, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-republican-candidates/709444/1939 "2015-09-06T12:56:38Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Do you think that people with sufficiently dumb views should not be represented? The breadth of belief in dumb things in no way gives them, or their believers, legitimacy. Yes, it would be best if candidates tried to dispel dumbness rather than pander to it. > [@](#): > > If so, then why not take away their vote? Seems more efficient. It doesn’t take much more than a skill in rhetoric to convert the dumb into holding smarter views. That’s pretty efficient, although it does take some integrity and true public-mindedness. _That’s_ the weakness we’re seeing - it isn’t the system, but the people. Don’t you ever feel a little queasy about supporting panderers to dumbness? ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2015, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-republican-candidates/709444/1940 "2015-09-06T22:03:31Z")
[This is a couple of weeks old, but it’s a good recap of the first GOP debate, IMO](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufGlBv8Z3NU). ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2015, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-republican-candidates/709444/1941 "2015-09-06T22:32:34Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > It doesn’t mean we shouldn’t criticize and mock Huckabee. Mocking him for representing pretty close to half the population doesn’t seem to productive to me. Sanders seems far more mockable in that regard. Sanders is going to do better than Huck, but that reflects voters’ concerns this cycle more than how much Sanders’ views represent the American peoples’. We’re just in a moment where the usual issues aren’t the big issues. So Huck is losing out among his own base to Donald Trump, a godless heathen who believes in evolution and gay rights. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-republican-candidates/709444.md?page=96) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2016-republican-candidates/709444.md?page=98)