# The 2017 Road to the Oscars **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 11, 2017, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2017-road-to-the-oscars/804221 "2017-12-11T18:25:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2018, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2017-road-to-the-oscars/804221/41 "2018-01-23T16:03:08Z")
For the first time I have seen all 9 of the films nominated for Best Picture before the nominations came out! (And 18 of the 20 acting nominations.) That’s a very good assortment of films. Jordan Peele for Best Director was a surprise but a well deserved one! ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2018, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2017-road-to-the-oscars/804221/42 "2018-01-23T17:13:57Z")
do the forms come with Streep’s name already printed on them? It’s sort of a joke by now, give some other people a chance. ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2018, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2017-road-to-the-oscars/804221/43 "2018-01-23T17:51:03Z")
> [@Bijou\_Drains](#): > > do the forms come with Streep’s name already printed on them? It’s sort of a joke by now, give some other people a chance. Not to mention she, honestly, has about 2 go-to characters and just recycles them over and over and over and gets nominated every time. For being so good, she has very, very little range. (IMO and yes it’s an unpopular one…should have put it in that thread huh?) ---
**Author:** ![Icarus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icarus/32/72_2.png) [@Icarus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icarus)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2018, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2017-road-to-the-oscars/804221/44 "2018-01-23T17:52:59Z")
> [@Bijou\_Drains](#): > > do the forms come with Streep’s name already printed on them? It’s sort of a joke by now, give some other people a chance. +1 I’m sure she’s great, she always is (I haven’t seen it). But save the awards for when she really stretches - she does that frequently enough. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2018, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2017-road-to-the-oscars/804221/45 "2018-01-23T18:00:16Z")
I also am on a quest to see all the Best Picture nominees. I’ve already got Dunkirk, Get Out, The Post…not particularly looking forward to Shape of Water or Call Me By Your Name, but one does what one must. I was disappointed that I, Tonya didn’t get a BP nod – I thought it excellent and deserved more than the 2 acting nominations. Disaster Artist got entirely shut out, which is a modest surprise but not a miscarriage of justice. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2018, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2017-road-to-the-oscars/804221/46 "2018-01-23T18:04:52Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > I also am on a quest to see all the Best Picture nominees. I’ve already got Dunkirk, Get Out, The Post…not particularly looking forward to Shape of Water or Call Me By Your Name, but one does what one must. How gory is Dunkirk? I feel like I’m seeing conflicting reports. Some people completely equate gore and violence, while for me they are separate issues (but obviously related). ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2018, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2017-road-to-the-oscars/804221/47 "2018-01-23T18:10:55Z")
> [@wonky](#): > > How gory is Dunkirk? I feel like I’m seeing conflicting reports. Some people completely equate gore and violence, while for me they are separate issues (but obviously related). It’s been several months, but I do not recall any gore at all (and I’m pretty squeamish on that, myself.) ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2018, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2017-road-to-the-oscars/804221/48 "2018-01-23T18:11:46Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > It’s been several months, but I do not recall any gore at all (and I’m pretty squeamish on that, myself.) Thank you! ---
**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2018, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2017-road-to-the-oscars/804221/49 "2018-01-23T19:42:39Z")
Rachel Morrison, nominated for _Mudbound_, is the first woman ever nominated for Best Cinematography. Her work on that movie is excellent as all of her work to date has consistently been excellent. She was also the cinematographer for _Fruitvale Station_, _Cake_, _Dope_, and the upcoming _Black Panther_ (reuniting her with _Fruitvale Station_ director Ryan Coogler). I thought _Mudbound_ was quite good and I went to see it in the theater despite knowing it was a Netflix film. I would have liked to have seen Dee Rees nominated for Best Director and, of those actually nominated, I’d have nominated her before Christopher Nolan or Greta Gerwig (and I haven’t seen _Phantom Thread_ yet, so I won’t express an opinion of P.T. Anderson’s nomination). However, despite the fact that I’d have liked to have seen Dee Rees nominated, I was surprised to see _Mudbound_ get four nominations because I didn’t think Netflix was doing enough to promote it and court the awards. ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2018, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2017-road-to-the-oscars/804221/50 "2018-01-23T22:21:26Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > I was disappointed that I, Tonya didn’t get a BP nod – I thought it excellent and deserved more than the 2 acting nominations. Disaster Artist got entirely shut out, which is a modest surprise but not a miscarriage of justice. **Tonya** also got an Editing nomination, which often goes to sports films but is also a testament to the POV juggling and timeline bouncing around that the movie does. **Disaster** did get an Adapted Screenplay nod. ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2018, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2017-road-to-the-oscars/804221/51 "2018-01-23T22:22:30Z")
> [@wonky](#): > > How gory is Dunkirk? I feel like I’m seeing conflicting reports. Some people completely equate gore and violence, while for me they are separate issues (but obviously related). It’s a highly visceral experience because of the fully immersive you-are-there tension throughout the film, but no, it’s not very graphic at all. ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2018, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2017-road-to-the-oscars/804221/52 "2018-01-23T22:29:10Z")
While all the other categories are simply a ballot check-off, Best Picture runs off a preferential ballot, where you rank your choices 1-9 and the film with the fewest #1s get those ballots redistributed to the remaining films based on the #2 choice, and then the next lowest #1s get redistributed, etc. until a single film has a majority (not just a plurality). So given this, this is how I’d rank the Picture nominees: 1. Get Out 2. Phantom Thread 3. Lady Bird 4. Call Me By Your Name 5. Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri 6. The Shape of Water 7. Dunkirk 8. The Post 9. Darkest Hour ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2018, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2017-road-to-the-oscars/804221/53 "2018-01-23T22:46:31Z")
> [@MovieMogul](#): > > While all the other categories are simply a ballot check-off, Best Picture runs off a preferential ballot, where you rank your choices 1-9 and the film with the fewest #1s get those ballots redistributed to the remaining films based on the #2 choice, and then the next lowest #1s get redistributed, etc. until a single film has a majority (not just a plurality). So given this, this is how I’d rank the Picture nominees: > > 1. Get Out > 2. Phantom Thread > 3. Lady Bird > 4. Call Me By Your Name > 5. Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri > 6. The Shape of Water > 7. Dunkirk > 8. The Post > 9. Darkest Hour I’d rank the ones I have seen: 1. Get Out 2. Three Billboards 3. Lady Bird 4. The Shape of Water 5. Dunkirk But Get Out is a lot better than the others. I don’t think it is the best movie of the year, but it is the best of the nominees I’ve seen. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2018, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2017-road-to-the-oscars/804221/54 "2018-01-23T22:50:47Z")
> [@wonky](#): > > How gory is Dunkirk? I feel like I’m seeing conflicting reports. Some people completely equate gore and violence, while for me they are separate issues (but obviously related). Zero gore. I didn’t like it, though, but I can get that some may enjoy it. I thought it was a huge misfire from Christopher Nolan and his worst film. Some very good production things, though. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2017-road-to-the-oscars/804221.md?page=2)