# The 2018 Road to the Oscars **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 12, 2018, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2018-road-to-the-oscars/826007 "2018-12-12T18:05:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2019, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2018-road-to-the-oscars/826007/61 "2019-02-13T19:50:02Z")
Yeah, if Roma wins, this “trend”, too, will be officially obliterated. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2019, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2018-road-to-the-oscars/826007/62 "2019-02-14T02:14:12Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Yeah, if Roma wins, this “trend”, too, will be officially obliterated. Though we’ll never know by how much, annoyingly, because Netflix refuses to publish any of the little box office it did make it. ---
**Author:** ![peccavi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peccavi/32/388_2.png) [@peccavi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peccavi)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2019, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2018-road-to-the-oscars/826007/63 "2019-02-14T15:10:14Z")
> [@Skammer](#): > > I’m overall disappointed in the nominations, especially for BP. I liked some of them but I can’t name one (except _Roma_ that would deserve to win in any other year. (Which reminds me, is there a thread for _The Favourite_? Because I hated that one, and seem to be the only one. I want to know what I missed that made it so great.) > > Honestly, I’m just supremely pissed by the snub for _Eighth Grade_. I thought that was the best movie I saw all year, and the best lead actress performance, and one of the best supporting actor performances, and it got completely ignored. Not even a Screenplay nod! **I’m going to watch the whole ceremony with my arms crossed in defiance because of that injustice.** Bolding above is mine. I agree with the general sentiment, though I thought both _Roma_ and _The Favourite_ were worthy entrants. (But I agree they whiffed on _Eighth Grade_, as well as _Leave No Trace_, _The Rider_, and others) I think everyone should follow **Skammer’s** example above- because, to paraphrase Arlo Guthrie: \*Walk into the shrink wherever you are, just walk in, say, **“Shrink, I crossed my arms in protest while watching the Oscars”** , and walk out You know, if one person, just one person, does it, they may think he’s really sick and they won’t take him And if two people do it, in harmony, they may think they’re both f\*\*\*\*ts and they won’t take either of them And if three people do it! Can you imagine three people walkin’ in, **sayin’ they crossed their arms in protest while watching the Oscars and walkin’ out?** They may think it’s an Organization! And can you imagine fifty people a day? I said FIFTY people a day\*\* sayin’ they crossed their arms in protest while watching the Oscars and walkin’ out? \*\*Friends, they may think it’s a Movement, and that’s what it is **The Skammer’s Oscar Ceremony** anti-massacree movement! And all you gotta do to join is to sing it the next time it comes around on the guitar\* ---
**Author:** ![peccavi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peccavi/32/388_2.png) [@peccavi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peccavi)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2019, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2018-road-to-the-oscars/826007/64 "2019-02-14T15:11:42Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Yeah, if Roma wins, this “trend”, too, will be officially obliterated. If _Roma_ wins it will require a complete reassessment of how to measure the financial performance of a motion picture. Is _Roma_ financially successful, given that it was made for streaming and only originally released for Oscar qualification? How much money has it made for NetFlix? Who will ever know? Was \*Bird Box \*a [financial failure](https://filmschoolrejects.com/bird-box-appears-to-have-had-the-best-movie-opening-of-all-time/)? (link compares opening weeks of _Bird Box_ to opening weeks of the most “successful” theatrical movies) ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2019, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2018-road-to-the-oscars/826007/65 "2019-02-14T15:17:45Z")
_If_ Roma wins, I _think_ it will be the first non-English language winner. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2019, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2018-road-to-the-oscars/826007/66 "2019-02-14T16:40:18Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > _If_ Roma wins, I _think_ it will be the first non-English language winner. True, I think. I thought Crouching Tiger had a real shot, but it won Best Foreign film and was unable to pull the double win. Great movie, though. Probably deserved it. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2019, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2018-road-to-the-oscars/826007/67 "2019-02-14T16:51:32Z")
Life is Beautiful also seemed to have a good shot, but I think it also won Best Foreign Language Film. And I expect that to happen to Roma as well. ---
**Author:** ![Fair\_Rarity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fair_rarity/32/153_2.png) [@Fair\_Rarity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fair_Rarity)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2019, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2018-road-to-the-oscars/826007/68 "2019-02-15T01:55:31Z")
> [@Skammer](#): > > (Which reminds me, is there a thread for _The Favourite_? Because I hated that one, and seem to be the only one. I want to know what I missed that made it so great.) I didn’t hate it but I also don’t get what is so good. The acting is really good when it’s on point, but I found it uneven. High highs, medium low lows. It wasn’t that witty or funny. I found it to be more gratuitously crude for shock value than a genuine Mean Girls dynamic. MG is vastly superior, imo. Would The Artist count as a non-English film given as it was silent except for that one bit? It wouldn’t be foreign language, but where would you put it on the language spectrum in the absence of language? Roma was ok, but I found it to be a little poop-heavy for my personal Best Picture preference. Which was just the most glaring example of what I found to be its biggest problem: really boring shots went on way too long. An establishing shot is supposed to establish something, not stare at a drain for two solid minutes. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2019, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2018-road-to-the-oscars/826007/69 "2019-02-15T03:46:08Z")
I just watched the nominated short, **A Night at the Garden**. Holy shit. Seven minutes of complete shock. I had no idea this happened in this country. Why anyone thinks “it can’t happen here” is a mystery to me. You can see it on PBS streaming. ---
**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2019, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2018-road-to-the-oscars/826007/70 "2019-02-16T03:11:05Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > I just watched the nominated short, **A Night at the Garden**. Holy shit. Seven minutes of complete shock. I had no idea this happened in this country. Why anyone thinks “it can’t happen here” is a mystery to me. > > You can see it on PBS streaming. I’m rooting for that one since my company actually provided some of the footage and we’re in the credits! Someone I work with might actually be attending the telecast! (I doubt it’ll win, but that’s still very cool!) And I just saw this, [All Oscar Categories to Air Live After Hollywood Protest](https://variety.com/2019/film/news/all-oscar-categories-to-air-live-after-hollywood-protest-1203141496/) The first good decision they’ve made! ---
**Author:** ![Paxx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/50afbb/32.png) [@Paxx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paxx)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2019, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2018-road-to-the-oscars/826007/71 "2019-02-21T03:04:37Z")
I’m wondering about the order in which the awards will be presented. Is the order available now or is it typically announced on the day of the ceremony? ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2019, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2018-road-to-the-oscars/826007/72 "2019-02-23T22:21:29Z")
Watching the first hour or so of the Independent Spirit Awards, and Richard E Grant picks up the ISA version of supporting actor, then gives a terrific speech. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2019, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2018-road-to-the-oscars/826007/73 "2019-02-23T22:42:24Z")
Bo Burnham for Best First Screenplay, gives high praise to Elsie Fisher. Loved his thank you speech at the Writers Guild - “have fun at the Oscars, losers!” ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2019, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2018-road-to-the-oscars/826007/74 "2019-02-24T21:03:56Z")
The two winners of the Indie Spirits who are considered front-runners for today are for the two female acting categories (Glenn Close and Regina King). There’s an outside chance Barry Jenkins might pull off an Adapted Screenplay win for **Beale Street** the way he did for **Moonlight** and I would love to see Richard E. Grant come from behind (he’s generally accepted as the only one with a chance to beat **Green Book** ’s Mahershala Ali. T-minus 4 hours and counting. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2019, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2018-road-to-the-oscars/826007/75 "2019-02-24T22:06:26Z")
I hope they include Stanley Donen in the In Memoriam segment. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2019, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2018-road-to-the-oscars/826007/76 "2019-02-25T00:19:03Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > My “thoughts of the moment, selections may change” picks… > > BP - Star is Born\* > Actor - Cooper\* > Actress - Glenn Close > Director - Spike Lee > Sup Actor - Sam Elliott > Sup Actress - Amy Adams > Adap screenplay - Buster Scruggs > Orig screenplay - Roma > > \*Think “Ben Affleck & Argo” here… Updated: BP: Roma Actor: Malek Actress: Close Director: Lee Sup Actor: Ali Sup Actress: King Adapted: Blackkklansman Original: Roma ---
**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2019, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2018-road-to-the-oscars/826007/77 "2019-02-25T02:09:22Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > I hope they include Stanley Donen in the In Memoriam segment. Sorry, but it’s for those who died in 2018. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2019, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2018-road-to-the-oscars/826007/78 "2019-02-25T04:08:51Z")
> [@gaffa](#): > > Sorry, but it’s for those who died in 2018. They showed Bruno Ganz. But Donen died too recently to make the montage. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2019, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2018-road-to-the-oscars/826007/79 "2019-02-25T14:39:04Z")
> [@Maserschmidt](#): > > They showed Bruno Ganz. But Donen died too recently to make the montage. Then the people upset that Oscar nominee actress Carol Channing didn’t make the cut have legit beef. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2019, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2018-road-to-the-oscars/826007/80 "2019-02-25T14:46:09Z")
Is this the ceremony commentary thread? If so: Makeup & Hair thank-you were the biggest argument for moving some awards to the commercial break. Taking turns reading names off a paper, and they still managed to exceed their time. I love film clip montages, and sometimes the Oscars do them extremely well. Last night they didn’t do them at all…so they kept the show going at a terrible cost (IMHO). I was really happy to see Free Solo get the award for Documentary Feature. But jeezus christ, woman – thank you squeezing in a last-second acknowledgement to the film’s subject. You know, the guy who scaled El Capitan with his fingernails? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2018-road-to-the-oscars/826007.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2018-road-to-the-oscars/826007.md?page=5)