# The 2025 Papal Conclave

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2025-papal-conclave/1017913>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [May 5, 2025, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2025-papal-conclave/1017913 "2025-05-05T17:40:44Z")\
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**Post date:** [May 8, 2025, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2025-papal-conclave/1017913/141 "2025-05-08T17:37:56Z")

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huh, first boomer pope. interesting…

he comes from the augustinian order. wonder why he went with leo over augustine.

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Wiki entry doesn’t say explicitly, but I’m guessing from being appointed to Church posts by Pope Francis that’s he at least progressive-ish, not conservative.

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I assume as an American he wasn’t on anyone’s list of possibilities.

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**Post date:** [May 8, 2025, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2025-papal-conclave/1017913/144 "2025-05-08T17:43:33Z")

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Well, based on live updates in the NY Times, he seems to be emphasizing world peace, building bridges, seeks to be “close to those who suffered” and wants the Church to be “synodal”, which best I can tell means “walking together”.

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the priest on abc news knows the now pope. has had meetings with him, corresponded, had meals with him.

he is saying he is very approachable, very down to earth, modest, and listens.

he was a cardinal in peru. north and south america.

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I heard he’s turning the Sistine Chapel into a Denny’s

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**Post date:** [May 8, 2025, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2025-papal-conclave/1017913/147 "2025-05-08T17:45:22Z")

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> [@carrps](#):
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> > [@Railer13](#):
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> > And for the first time in my life, I’m older than the Pope.
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> Exactly what I came here to post! Not by a lot, but still _damn._

Getting close. He graduated college (Villanova, BS in math) the same year I graduated high school.

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**Post date:** [May 8, 2025, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2025-papal-conclave/1017913/148 "2025-05-08T17:45:30Z")

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He is apparently fairly progressive, being part of adding women to the group that nominates bishops to the pope. I would call him more Peruvian than American, though. He spent 20 years there and got Peruvian citizenship.

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**Post date:** [May 8, 2025, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2025-papal-conclave/1017913/149 "2025-05-08T17:46:38Z")

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I thought it was notable that he spoke in Italian and Spanish in his address, but not in English.

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**Post date:** [May 8, 2025, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2025-papal-conclave/1017913/150 "2025-05-08T17:48:53Z")

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If he wants the Catholic Church to be more synodal I wonder if he’ll push for renewed ecumenicalism with the Orthodox and major Protestant sects. It’d be nice for Christianity to be more catholic as in the words of the Nicene Creed.

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a cubs fan from the south side of chicago. he has fortitude.

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> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#):
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> I assume as an American he wasn’t on anyone’s list

In the odds upthread he was among those tied for 18th choice at 6600 payout. So he was there but a longshot.

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I hope the jokes peter out fairly shortly. Everyone repeating the same thing is already getting annoying.

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**Post date:** [May 8, 2025, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2025-papal-conclave/1017913/154 "2025-05-08T17:50:53Z")

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Pope Leo XIII, if my history is correct, authored the encyclical Rerum Novorum, and was very pro-worker and for economic justice. Also spoke out against socialism.

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**Post date:** [May 8, 2025, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2025-papal-conclave/1017913/155 "2025-05-08T17:51:48Z")

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synodal caught my attention as well. patriarch of moscow aside the orthodox church is very synodal, and not just clergy minded. when women monastics speak in the orthodox church everyone listens.

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He has apparently been accused in the past of not being very aggressive about priests accused of sexual misconduct.

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Both being American and young (for Pope) (69) are a bit of surprise as is 4 ballots.  
Seems pro-worker and union, but can’t find info on other social issues.

Brian  
p.s. yet another job I didn’t get (currently unemployed and technically eligible)

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> [@asterion](#):
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> I hope the jokes peter out fairly shortly.

Imagine if Pizzaballa had been elected.

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**Post date:** [May 8, 2025, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2025-papal-conclave/1017913/159 "2025-05-08T17:56:50Z")

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> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> I have it up in my classroom so my students can watch the Habemus Papam.

Just curious - what type of school/class level?

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**Post date:** [May 8, 2025, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-2025-papal-conclave/1017913/160 "2025-05-08T18:02:42Z")

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> [@John\_Bredin](#):
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> Wiki entry doesn’t say explicitly, but I’m guessing from being appointed to Church posts by Pope Francis that’s he at least progressive-ish, not conservative.

From the Guardian:

[Jakub Krupa](https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2025/may/08/new-pope-conclave-vatican-white-black-smoke-papacy-catholic-cardinals?page=with%3Ablock-681cef9f8f0835e2df499a41#block-681cef9f8f0835e2df499a41)

> It appears the new pope is active on social media.
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> Given what seems to be his previous criticism towards some members of the Trump administration, [such as this comment towards JD Vance](https://x.com/drprevost/status/1886469097560719594) or [perhaps this one](https://x.com/drprevost/status/1889907998753173882), their relationship will be one to watch.

On the Guardian too, it was reported that Trump was honored that an American is the Pope.

[Monty Phyton] luckily, they did not tell him about ~~the dirty knife~~ the new Pope being Peruvian too!. [/Monty Phyton]

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