# The .22 Rimfire thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-22-rimfire-thread/614991>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [March 7, 2012, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-22-rimfire-thread/614991 "2012-03-07T00:41:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![kopek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kopek/32/337_2.png) [@kopek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kopek)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2012, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-22-rimfire-thread/614991/21 "2012-03-07T05:12:31Z")

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I have a Mauser KKW single shot .22 and I love it. It will drill tacks at 50 yards and that’s cool but the history of it (how the Germans used it to get around the treaty after WW I) just adds to the effect.

One I had and have regretted parting with ever after ---- a more “older youth” single shot called the Canuck \<sic?\> Safety Rifle. It had this odd thing I never saw anywhere else. It was a bolt action but when you closed the bolt, the rear part with the striker in it would raise up at roughly a 45 degree angle. To fire, you had to thumb it down almost like thumbing the hammer of a hammered gun and then pull the trigger. Some guy who collected youth models just HAD to have it and offered me 20 times what I paid for it and I was in college then and broke so ------------ and I would give him four times what he paid me if I could have it back.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2012, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-22-rimfire-thread/614991/22 "2012-03-07T05:22:30Z")

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In .22 I have a 10/22, a [Buckmark](http://images.cabelas.com/is/image/cabelas/2453059_browning_01-1?hei=380&wid=380) and a [High Standard](http://www.milsurps.com/images/imported/2009/05/HSSupermatic-1.jpg) I inherited from my father. All of them get more action than any 5 of my other guns.

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**Author:** ![FordTaurusSHO94](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f07891/32.png) [@FordTaurusSHO94](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FordTaurusSHO94)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2012, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-22-rimfire-thread/614991/23 "2012-03-07T05:38:15Z")

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I have a Savage Model 64 rifle and a Hi-Standard Double Nine revolver.

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**Author:** ![GaryM](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garym/32/241_2.png) [@GaryM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GaryM)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2012, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-22-rimfire-thread/614991/24 "2012-03-07T13:41:40Z")

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One of my Walthers is a P22. Agreed that it’s not a top quality pistol but I bought it because it’s cheap and easy to add a suppressor. I’ve since adapted two of my Ruger MkIIs and my 10/22 to mount the unit, so the P22 doesn’t get shot very much.

My favorite is a MkII with a Burris Fastfire II sight and a PacLite upper. Also has Volquartsen trigger and other parts. Very nice shooter with the supressor.

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**Author:** ![ducati](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/cc9497/32.png) [@ducati](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ducati)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2012, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-22-rimfire-thread/614991/25 "2012-03-07T14:38:04Z")

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> [@kopek](#):
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> It was a bolt action but when you closed the bolt, the rear part with the striker in it would raise up at roughly a 45 degree angle. To fire, you had to thumb it down almost like thumbing the hammer of a hammered gun and then pull the trigger.

Safety bolts like that were common years ago. My Iver Johnson 2X is like that. I always thought it was the coolest thing.

They’re both still around if you check gun auction sites.

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2012, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-22-rimfire-thread/614991/26 "2012-03-07T14:46:57Z")

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Oh, my, this thread makes me so happy.

ONE OF US! ONE OF US!

Seriously, thanks guys, and I’m happy to feel a part of it. mactech tells the truth; I did have the jamming and misfire issues he mentions. I didn’t mind, to be honest - as he says, the gun’s got a personality and it’s good to see problems just to get the hang of dealing with problems.

I’ll be reading this thread for sure. 🙂

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**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2012, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-22-rimfire-thread/614991/27 "2012-03-07T15:36:45Z")

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To those people who put down the .22 as not a “real gun” or say “it’s just a .22”, tell them to read [this thread](http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=503007&nt=2&page=1)

To sum up, the OP shot a frozen turkey wrapped in three layers of denim from 250 and 300 yards away, at 250 the bullet completely penetrated the turkey, went completely through it, and at 300 the bullet was barely stopped by the last layer of clothing on the back side of the bird…

The .22 is not a toy, treat it with the same respect as any other firearm

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**Author:** ![LH75](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lh75/32/4438_2.png) [@LH75](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LH75)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2012, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-22-rimfire-thread/614991/28 "2012-03-07T15:43:30Z")

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I have the obligatory Ruger 10/22 in my gun safe. It is an older model from the days of the Walnut stock. I have a Ruger 22/45 target model that makes every range trip with me.

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**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2012, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-22-rimfire-thread/614991/29 "2012-03-07T15:55:53Z")

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… actually, make that two cotton t-shirts and a canvas jacket, but still…

… The core of the turkey was still frozen during the autopsy, and the organ bag was still in place

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**Author:** ![ducati](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/cc9497/32.png) [@ducati](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ducati)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2012, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-22-rimfire-thread/614991/30 "2012-03-07T17:40:32Z")

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I’ll see your turkey and raise you a [terrorist](http://www.tactical-life.com/online/tactical-weapons/israeli-mossad-22-lrs/)… 😉

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2012, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-22-rimfire-thread/614991/31 "2012-03-08T20:08:11Z")

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> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#):
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> [:smack:](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=628279)
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> If you’re looking for a .22 handgun, go with a Ruger Mark (I have a Mark III)

I’ve problems with feed on a Ruger .22/45. Have you any advice?

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2012, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-22-rimfire-thread/614991/32 "2012-03-08T20:28:58Z")

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I’m curious, how many people tear down their semi-auto .22 just to clean it? If you shoot one 50 round box is it ok to just run a wet patch down the barrel? I can’t see a full tear down every, single time you fire the gun.

I recently bought a Ruger 22/45 Hunter. Its in the Mark III line. Rugers tear down video scares the crap out of me. They actually suggest a plastic hammer. There’s all kinds of stories about people having trouble getting a Mark III back together and working.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2012, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-22-rimfire-thread/614991/33 "2012-03-08T20:31:08Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> I recently bought a Ruger 22/45 Hunter. Its in the Mark III line. Rugers tear down video scares the crap out of me. They actually suggest a plastic hammer. There’s all kinds of stories about people having trouble getting a Mark III back together and working.

I took mine to the gunsmith to put back together, and he said, “G-d, I hate it when they do that!” 🙂

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**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2012, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-22-rimfire-thread/614991/34 "2012-03-08T20:34:26Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> I’m curious, how many people tear down their semi-auto .22 just to clean it? If you shoot one 50 round box is it ok to just run a wet patch down the barrel? I can’t see a full tear down every, single time you fire the gun.
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> I recently bought a Ruger 22/45 Hunter. Its in the Mark III line. Rugers tear down video scares the crap out of me. They actually suggest a plastic hammer. There’s all kinds of stories about people having trouble getting it back together and working.

I have a Ruger Mark III, and I shoot in a league - so 30 rounds per match, once a week. I’ll generally dissassemble & clean it every 5 or 6 matches. Yes, the teardown is a bitch, especially with the goddamn magazine “safety”, so you have to keep putting the mag in & out just to move the hammer. But once you’ve done it a few times, it’s pretty routine. The most important thing is to get the hammer strut lined up correctly at the end.

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**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2012, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-22-rimfire-thread/614991/35 "2012-03-08T20:46:40Z")

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A few weeks ago, out of the blue, my wife (who has gotten hooked on the show “American Guns”) says that she would like to start shooting. Huzzah!! I’m thinking probably a Ruger pistol but I’ve been out of the buying/selling game for quite a while. IIRC, the Mark II was new back when I worked at the gun store. Now, there’s a Mark III and a 22/45. I don’t know anything about them other than I don’t care for bull barrels in general. Any recommendations? She has fairly small hands.

She likes shooting my Marlin Model 60 but the only handgun that I currently own is a S&W 5904 9mm. I’m afraid that if she shoots it, it’ll scare her off.

TIA.

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2012, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-22-rimfire-thread/614991/36 "2012-03-08T20:59:08Z")

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I bought my Ruger .22/45 Hunter based on several reviews.

This review ranked Ruger highest and mentioned the jamming problem. They fixed it by trying different grain loads. Based on the review, I bought CCI 22LR 40 grain Pistol Match. I Couldn’t find the Remington 40 grain the review mentioned. So far the CCI is working ok in the 22/45

> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> I’ve problems with feed on a Ruger .22/45. Have you any advice?

> [@](#):
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> We chose the Ruger Mark III as our best .22 target pistol and wasted a full day diagnosing a horrible jamming problem, but it was quickly fixed by moving to a higher-grain bullet. We got the Remington golden bullet, 40 grain, and she performed flawlessly, a joyous pistol with remarkable accuracy at 25 yards.

> **[travel-golf.org](http://ww38.travel-golf.org/best_22_caliber_target_pistols.htm)**
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> This domain may be for sale!

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2012, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-22-rimfire-thread/614991/37 "2012-03-08T21:13:07Z")

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A heavier grain fixed jamming, but it will often miss feed the first round when you work the slide.

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**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2012, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-22-rimfire-thread/614991/38 "2012-03-08T21:31:07Z")

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There is no corrosively primed. 22lr made in the US. I doubt anybody is making any anywhere in the world. There is no need to ever scrub the bore of a. 22. You’ll want to keep the action and breechface clean, though. Spray cleaners like Gunscrubber are a godsend for people who hate dealing with Ruger take down quirks. Hose out the action, a little judicious use of a toothbrush, relube, and you’re done.

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**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2012, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-22-rimfire-thread/614991/39 "2012-03-08T21:58:39Z")

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Ruger isn’t what they used to be on QC. I have an early mk II I bought myself all those years ago and an even older Standard Automatic my dad bought when I was a yonker. Both of them will fire and feed any. 22lr that will fit in the magazine.

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**Post date:** [March 8, 2012, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-22-rimfire-thread/614991/40 "2012-03-08T22:38:44Z")

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When I was experiencing FTF, I called Ruger. The tech said that the MK.II pistols have a ;target chamber’ that is tighter than a ‘sport chamber’ used in other guns such as the 10/22. I was told I should use ammo that was manufactured to higher tolerances (specifically, not Remington).

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