# The 4:20 Club

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-4-20-club/16485>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [April 25, 2000, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-4-20-club/16485 "2000-04-25T20:34:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![GaWd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f08c70/32.png) [@GaWd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GaWd)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2000, 7:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-4-20-club/16485/41 "2000-04-28T07:55:00Z")

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Woops, that shoulda been…

**Posted by TomCat:**

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> 1. Neat little things like you get your own joint- you don’t have to share, there is plenty to go around. OR if you are sharing a big joint, you don’t have to toke and pass quickly - you smoke what you want, relax, chill, smoke some more, then pass.

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**Author:** ![Baglady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/cab0a1/32.png) [@Baglady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baglady)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2000, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-4-20-club/16485/42 "2000-05-01T03:11:37Z")

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GaWd wrote

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> \*\*  
> 4-20 was started in California in the 70’s. I’ve always thought it was a police code for San Mateo. When I mentioned this on the board a few weeks ago, I was presented with a site that had a coupla guys who were basically in a hippy crew that supposedly started 4-20.  
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Close, but no cigar (joint?). It was San RAFAEL (not San Mateo), another suburb in the Bay Area. According to a recent article published in the San Francisco Chronicle (on April 20-- duh!), the use of “420” was started by a group of high school stoners attending San Rafael High School in 1971, and who used to meet at 4:20 in front of a statue of Louis Pasteur at their school. The students (now in their late 40s) took their story to High Times magazine and with various collborative evidence, was recently declared the originators of the term.

You can find the Chronicle article at [SFGate](http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2000/04/20/MN101165.DTL).

You can find the “founding fathers of 420” (as certified by High Times) at [www.waldo420.com](http://www.waldo420.com)

– Baglady

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**Author:** ![neutron\_star](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/51bf81/32.png) [@neutron\_star](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neutron_star)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2000, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-4-20-club/16485/43 "2000-05-01T06:10:03Z")

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I built a double-chambered bong tonight out of stuff lying around the apartment. Ah, it sure hits like a dream. One of my rare sucesses!

Usually my bongs suck. Sometimes they don’t even work at all. Once I bought an aqarium pump in order to rig up a bong that would blow the smoke out in my face so I wouldn’t have to inhale (talk about lazy!). Unfortunately, the pump I bought (the cheapest one) wasn’t strong enough to manage more than a trickle of air.

The toughest thing about making bongs is getting a good seal. Air always finds a place to squeak out. I use that white putty-like substance people use to hang up posters to plug up the airholes.

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**Author:** ![NothingMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b77776/32.png) [@NothingMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NothingMan)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2000, 7:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-4-20-club/16485/44 "2000-05-01T07:06:53Z")

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I thought a “quarter” was called that because it was $25.

no wait, that was a friend of mine . . . .

😛

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**Author:** ![GaWd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f08c70/32.png) [@GaWd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GaWd)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2000, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-4-20-club/16485/45 "2000-05-01T07:07:56Z")

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Baglady wrote…

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> Close, but no cigar (joint?). It was San RAFAEL (not San Mateo)

Details, Details Baglady…being from the south bay, I don’t really no the difference let alone care about the difference between the two! 😃

I was just going on memory(which isn’t the best after all that weed…), and I was of by like 20 miles(?).

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**Author:** ![Baglady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/cab0a1/32.png) [@Baglady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baglady)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2000, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-4-20-club/16485/46 "2000-05-01T17:25:11Z")

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NothingMan noted:  
I thought a “quarter” was called that because it was $25.

A friend of mine tells me that a quarter means a quarter ounce.

Jee, a quarter for $25 is a really good price. Oh erm… at least that’s what my friend tells me.

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**Author:** ![Brymo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Brymo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brymo)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2000, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-4-20-club/16485/47 "2000-05-01T21:20:01Z")

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For those of you with nothing better to do on Thursdays than smoke stinky green along with your computer, may I suggest  
“The Bong Hits With Brymo Show” from 3-6pm [http://www.vulcanradio.com](http://www.vulcanradio.com)  
I spin an ecclectic mix of musical styles while smoking an unreal amout of bong hits.  
If you live in Oakland, Ca. you can listen to a simulcast on pirate station 88.1 FM

For those of you on the bottle, “Barbara’s Cocktail Hours” proceeds my show so get a bucket ready and tune in!

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**Author:** ![Olentzero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90ced4/32.png) [@Olentzero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Olentzero)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2000, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-4-20-club/16485/48 "2000-05-02T01:09:36Z")

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The Mrs and I use them little brass screens you can buy 10 for $1 at the local bodega. She has a wood unit that’s seen several years of service. I used to own a nice little brass fella but he got abandoned one night after a paranoia attack walking alone in Balto seeing a cop pull a U in my direction. Rest in peace, Spike…  
We don’t do much, basically since we seclude ourselves in the boudoir after the kidlet has been put to bed and toke a wee to mellow out.  
{b]Tomcat\*\* we are supremely jealous of you and your situation. We want in! 😃  
**Silo** Where in VA are you? Drop me a line via my profile. I wanna talk.

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**Author:** ![Silo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ac91a4/32.png) [@Silo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silo)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2000, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-4-20-club/16485/49 "2000-05-02T05:18:35Z")

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> The toughest thing about making bongs is getting a good seal. Air always finds a place to squeak out. I use that white putty-like substance people use to hang up posters to plug up the airholes.

The putty to use is plumbers putty. You can get a little plastic tub of it at the hardware store for about a dollar. Get some it’s THE BEST for homemade bongs, gets em air tight.

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> Silo Where in VA are you? Drop me a line via my profile. I wanna talk.

I’m in Chesterfield County. I’ll send an e-mail to you in a few daze. I will have more free time then. Are you in Va? What area?

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> NothingMan noted:  
> I thought a “quarter” was called that because it was $25.
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> Baglady: A friend of mine tells me that a quarter means a quarter ounce.

Yep the derivation of quarter is from the 1/4 (quarter) division of the ounce. I get my quarters anywhere from 20 to thirty bucks, but once a long time ago (about 25 years ago) quarters were like five or ten bucks. Inflation is in the dope market too. An ounce is like 28.8 grams, so a queater is about 7.2 grams. But, I usually get 8 grams per quarter. I think the average amount you get for a quarter in the country is 7.5 grams per q. Don’t get screwed.

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> Jee, a quarter for $25 is a really good price. Oh erm… at least that’s what my friend tells me.

Depends on the bud. Some bud isn’t worth $25 a q (Mexican crap), but really good stuff you will RARELY (more like never), see at $25 (unless you know a grower).

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> For those of you with nothing better to do on Thursdays than smoke stinky green along with your computer, may I suggest  
> “The Bong Hits With Brymo Show” from 3-6pm [http://www.vulcanradio.com](http://www.vulcanradio.com)  
> I spin an ecclectic mix of musical styles while smoking an unreal amout of bong hits.  
> If you live in Oakland, Ca. you can listen to a simulcast on pirate station 88.1 FM

Sometimes I really miss California.  
–Audios, Mike

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**Author:** ![Olentzero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90ced4/32.png) [@Olentzero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Olentzero)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2000, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-4-20-club/16485/50 "2000-05-02T16:41:57Z")

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**Silo** We’re in Arlington… no idea where the heck Chesterfield County is… must be down South? Looking forward to hearing from you.

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**Author:** ![Silo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ac91a4/32.png) [@Silo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silo)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2000, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-4-20-club/16485/51 "2000-05-02T19:01:35Z")

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Olentzero, i’m about a half hour west of Richmond.

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**Author:** ![Silo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ac91a4/32.png) [@Silo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silo)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2000, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-4-20-club/16485/52 "2000-05-02T19:07:32Z")

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I checked a map @ [http://www.mapquest.com](http://www.mapquest.com), so I see your just outside of D.C. I am about 2 hours south of ya, just outside of Richmond.

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**Author:** ![Silo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ac91a4/32.png) [@Silo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silo)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2000, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-4-20-club/16485/53 "2000-05-02T19:19:16Z")

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Hey guys/gals I thought it would be cool if we could get 420 posts on this thread. It’s a long way to go…but we would retire it at four hundred twenty posts. Wouldn’t that be cool/appropriate?

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