# The 70th Annual Golden Globe Awards **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 14, 2013, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-70th-annual-golden-globe-awards/647115 "2013-01-14T00:49:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2013, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-70th-annual-golden-globe-awards/647115/61 "2013-01-14T17:31:06Z")
Perhaps Jodie Foster wanted to take the opportunity to publicly come out, but chickened out at the last minute? BTW, I liked when Anne Hathaway noted that Sally Field’s career had grown from being the Flying Nun to serious adult roles like Mrs Gump and Norma Rae. ---
**Author:** ![alexandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e68b1a/32.png) [@alexandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alexandra)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2013, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-70th-annual-golden-globe-awards/647115/62 "2013-01-14T22:48:12Z")
> [@DMark](#): > > I would agree that people who earn millions of dollars to act should damned well know how to write and memorize a decent/witty/profound/memorable short speech instead of taking out some raggedy dumbass laundry list of notes to fumble over in front of an audience. Seriously people, how hard is it to memorize a two minute speech?! > > Jody Foster is an even worst case in point - she didn’t suddenly find out she “won” this honor, she had months to prepare for this award. This was an absolute crap speech. > > Dear Jody - nobody asked that you come out as a Lesbian - granted, it comes as no surprise to anyone, but if you are going to do it on this night, at this venue, at least do it right. You build up to it and then can’t even say the word “lesbian” or express it clearly and then sort of drop the ball. Then you make a rather vague, lofty threat/promise to pretty much end your career and stop working in film (but continue to work in some other mystery media), followed back stage with comments about how you have no intentions of stopping acting or directing films. So, uh, exactly what the fuck were you trying to say in this speech?! Maybe you should have had Mel Gibson give your speech holding a beaver puppet. Dear, dear Jody - you have done some incredible work in film, but this speech was rank amateur night at Toastmasters. Coming out is a personal thing. I didn’t find her speech oblique at all. She talked about the female love of her life at length. YMMV I guess. I liked it. And how hard is it to spell her name right after it’s been typed many times already in this thread? ---
**Author:** ![Brynda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e79b87/32.png) [@Brynda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brynda)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2013, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-70th-annual-golden-globe-awards/647115/63 "2013-01-14T23:05:09Z")
**DMark** , hasn’t Jodie gotten lots of grief for not making a big coming out announcement? I don’t think she dropped the ball or chickened out, I think she was sort of making fun of coming out announcements. It was supposed to be witty. She mentioned that she came out ages ago, so she was clear about that. On the other hand, I thought it was clear she has a love/hate relationship with her career and her speech was full of emotional undercurrents. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2013, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-70th-annual-golden-globe-awards/647115/64 "2013-01-14T23:20:55Z")
Although I am sure it wasn’t meant to, my wife and I imagined Jessica Chastain was making a little dig at Jodie Foster in her speech when she talked about how much she had struggled and how many casting calls she had been to et cetera. Meanwhile Foster was moaning about spending her whole life in show business and her lack of privacy and how she had to struggle at points, etc. I am sure Chastain was thinking, “You had to struggle? You? Jodie Foster? Screw this bitch.” Like I said I am sure it was all in our head. ---
**Author:** ![DMark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@DMark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMark)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2013, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-70th-annual-golden-globe-awards/647115/65 "2013-01-14T23:31:34Z")
> [@alexandra](#): > > Coming out is a personal thing. I didn’t find her speech oblique at all. She talked about the female love of her life at length. YMMV I guess. I liked it. > > And how hard is it to spell her name right after it’s been typed many times already in this thread? I apologize for the misspelling of Jodie’s name. Was typing quickly before work this morning and didn’t catch it. Still, I should know better. I don’t apologize for thinking the speech was utter crap. Of course coming out is a personal thing - I’m Gay and can tesitify to that. However, nobody was holding a gun to her head - it was HER choice to bring up the subject last night and I think she did a piss poor job of it. And then the random mumbling about never being on another stage after tonight, and then going back stage and backtracking on that as well? Sounds to me like she didn’t have a clue what she was going to say until she stood there and just winged it - and didn’t do well winging it. And I hardly think a one-half sentence, vague reference to an ex could be considered “talking about the female love of her life at length…” ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2013, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-70th-annual-golden-globe-awards/647115/66 "2013-01-14T23:31:55Z")
For the record, Jodie Foster came out in 2007 > **[Jodie Foster comes out with emotional tribute to her girlfriend of 14 years](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-501256/Jodie-Foster-comes-emotional-tribute-girlfriend-14-years.html)** > > Jodie Foster has finally come out as a lesbian to pay tribute to her girlfriend of 14 years. The fiercely-private actress has always resolutely refused to discuss her sexuality. But after winning an award at a Women in Entertainment breakfast, she... . ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2013, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-70th-annual-golden-globe-awards/647115/67 "2013-01-14T23:45:42Z")
> [@ministryman](#): > > Where was her wireless setup? I don’t know, but I want to go there. ---
**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2013, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-70th-annual-golden-globe-awards/647115/68 "2013-01-14T23:47:30Z")
> [@Uncle\_Jocko](#): > > Tommy Lee Jones was not amused by Will Ferrell and Kristen Wiig. Not one bit. blast, I missed the whole show. anybody want to tell me what happened? were Ferrell & Wiig making fun of him or of the movie in some way or did the camera just happen to catch Tommy Lee Jones looking cranky while they were on? ---
**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-70th-annual-golden-globe-awards/647115/69 "2013-01-15T00:01:14Z")
> [@JackieLikesVariety](#): > > blast, I missed the whole show. > > anybody want to tell me what happened? were Ferrell & Wiig making fun of him or of the movie in some way or did the camera just happen to catch Tommy Lee Jones looking cranky while they were on? Here’s the [YouTube link](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6PNmtxrfcg). The cameras panned to Tommy Lee Jones during the segment. He was beyond cranky. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-70th-annual-golden-globe-awards/647115/70 "2013-01-15T00:10:21Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > I don’t know, but I want to go there. If I may be a nitpicky Internet jerk, it is “I want to go to there.” ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-70th-annual-golden-globe-awards/647115/71 "2013-01-15T00:32:22Z")
> [@amarinth](#): > > Here’s the [YouTube link](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6PNmtxrfcg). The cameras panned to Tommy Lee Jones during the segment. He was beyond cranky. That looked set-up to me. ---
**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-70th-annual-golden-globe-awards/647115/72 "2013-01-15T01:14:09Z")
> [@Maserschmidt](#): > > That looked set-up to me. That would be a weird and pointless set up. I think more likely, he just didn’t know he was on camera and was caught with a sour look on his puss. He probably wasn’t even paying the bit any real attention. ---
**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-70th-annual-golden-globe-awards/647115/73 "2013-01-15T01:28:50Z")
> [@Uncle\_Jocko](#): > > I don’t think it was your antenna. Right after Jodie did that “I’m going to make a public announcement right now … I’m single! Haw haw!” thing, the sound cut out. Similar to what the network would do to prevent bad words from flying out on the public airwaves, but this lasted a pretty long time. I have no idea what NBC was protecting us from, but it wasn’t just you. We were all in the same boat. > [@](#): > > (A few of her words early in the speech were dropped by the censor; NBC said it was because Foster had uttered the word “Jesus.”) From [here](http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Gay-community-hails-Foster-s-halting-Globes-speech-4193308.php). ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-70th-annual-golden-globe-awards/647115/74 "2013-01-15T01:56:45Z")
> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#): > > That would be a weird and pointless set up. I think more likely, he just didn’t know he was on camera and was caught with a sour look on his puss. He probably wasn’t even paying the bit any real attention. It’s a roving camera person for goodness sake, and I guarantee he knew he was on camera. That said, maybe he was just annoyed at winning nothing. ---
**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-70th-annual-golden-globe-awards/647115/75 "2013-01-15T02:29:04Z")
> [@Maserschmidt](#): > > It’s a roving camera person for goodness sake, and I guarantee he knew he was on camera. Okey dokey. I was just guessing. ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-70th-annual-golden-globe-awards/647115/76 "2013-01-15T05:05:27Z")
> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#): > > Although I am sure it wasn’t meant to, my wife and I imagined Jessica Chastain was making a little dig at Jodie Foster in her speech when she talked about how much she had struggled and how many casting calls she had been to et cetera. Meanwhile Foster was moaning about spending her whole life in show business and her lack of privacy and how she had to struggle at points, etc. I am sure Chastain was thinking, “You had to struggle? You? Jodie Foster? Screw this bitch.” > > Like I said I am sure it was all in our head. I took it as directly addressing the perception by some that she’s a golden girl who’s come out of nowhere and is suddenly seemingly in everything. Two years ago few had ever heard of her and now she’s a two-time Oscar nominee (much like Jennifer Lawrence). She graduated from Julliard in 2003, did lots of plays and TV and one feature movie that came out in 2010 called Jolene. Then, boom, in 2011 she had seven (7!) movies released. [The Debt](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1226753/reference), playing a young Helen Mirren. [Coriolanus](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1372686/reference) - directed by Ralph Fiennes. [Wilde Salome](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0795459/reference) - directed by Al Pacino. [Texas Killing Fields](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1389127/reference) [Take Shelter](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1675192/reference) [The Tree Of Life](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0478304/reference), and [The Help](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1454029/reference), which earned her an Oscar nomination for Best Supporting Actress (she lost to Octavia Spencer, also from The Help). She didn’t plan it that way, it’s just that the release schedules, which actors have no control over, turned out that way. She had 4 movies in 2012 and now there’s a bit of a backlash, which is stupid. What’s that saying about struggling for years and then becoming an “overnight success”? It applies to her. I don’t think she was referring to Jodie at all. She deserved that award and probably deserves the Oscar for Zero Dark Thirty, though maybe not over Emmanuelle Riva but I haven’t seen her performance yet. [shallow]IMO she’s the most beautiful woman in the room. Too bad her dress was the ugliest of the night.[/shallow] ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-70th-annual-golden-globe-awards/647115/77 "2013-01-15T07:44:02Z")
> [@Equipoise](#): > > She deserved that award and **probably deserves the Oscar** for Zero Dark Thirty, though maybe not over Emmanuelle Riva but I haven’t seen her performance yet. I take that back. I forgot that Naomi Watts was nominated for The Impossible. I hope she wins the Oscar. She was great, what a harrowing performance! She could win because she’s been around forever (not that she’s “due” but she always gives quality performances and should have won for Mulholland Drive but she wasn’t even nominated), and she’s well-liked by everybody. A majority of Academy voters may think that Jessica and Jennifer haven’t been around long enough. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 8:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-70th-annual-golden-globe-awards/647115/78 "2013-01-15T08:44:07Z")
> [@amarinth](#): > > Here’s the [YouTube link](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6PNmtxrfcg). The cameras panned to Tommy Lee Jones during the segment. He was beyond cranky. That’s just his face’s default position. ---
**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 9:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-70th-annual-golden-globe-awards/647115/79 "2013-01-15T09:08:02Z")
I’m torn on this speech. On the one hand, I don’t understand why everyone was so confused by it. It was crystal clear to me. I didn’t understand why everyone thought she had ‘retired from acting’. If you listened to her, you can see she wasn’t retiring. She thanked Robert Downey Jr. for ‘talking her down when she says she’s done with acting.’ “Thanks for talking me down when I say I’m done with acting, I’m done with acting, I’m really done, I’m done, I’m done”. There is no way to gather that she is retired. I don’t understand how so many people misunderstood that. The same with her ‘coming out’ (which she did years ago at a different awards show). She DID make it plain that she is gay. She really did. She didn’t say the words “I! AM! GAY!” but we are all grown ups and we don’t need to be applesauce fed everything. She spoke in a way that is EXTREMELY clear that she is totally gay. I can’t figure how people are saying she ‘chickened out’. She was cracking jokes, and speaking to her industry peers as if they were her main audience more so than us folks at home, but that’s fine. On the other hand… I don’t believe in stars whining about privacy. Celebrity comes with a lot of perks. So many perks that they must surely take advantage of many of those perks without ever knowing how we ‘little people’ have to deal with our lack of perks in similar situations all the time. So even artists who think they are very humble, are actually divas in ways that they never even notice. If they accept all of the unbelievable benefits and wealth and power of superstardom, then they don’t get to bitch about the drawbacks. I mean, they can, but not with my sympathy. On the third, alien hand… There is a certain level of stardom where I start to genuflect to the genius. I just read a story about how Diana Ross was denied special seating at a restaurant, and instead of being relieved to see a self entitled prima donna getting treated just like the rest of us, I found myself thinking, “How dare they treat Ms. Ross like that!” Ha. I don’t know…somehow Diana Ross has sneaked her way into some kind of special pedestal in my mind. I think that if any actor rises to that ‘special pedestal’ for me, a lifelong professional like Jodie Foster would. I mean, like she said, she really gave it all up on that screen since she was just a babe. So, I kind of forgive her for whining about privacy. Kind of. ---
**Author:** ![alexandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e68b1a/32.png) [@alexandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alexandra)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2013, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-70th-annual-golden-globe-awards/647115/80 "2013-01-15T13:52:32Z")
> [@DMark](#): > > I apologize for the misspelling of Jodie’s name. Was typing quickly before work this morning and didn’t catch it. Still, I should know better. > > I don’t apologize for thinking the speech was utter crap. > > Of course coming out is a personal thing - I’m Gay and can tesitify to that. > However, nobody was holding a gun to her head - it was HER choice to bring up the subject last night and I think she did a piss poor job of it. And then the random mumbling about never being on another stage after tonight, and then going back stage and backtracking on that as well? > Sounds to me like she didn’t have a clue what she was going to say until she stood there and just winged it - and didn’t do well winging it. > And I hardly think a one-half sentence, vague reference to an ex could be considered “talking about the female love of her life at length…” Well, I don’t have a transcript to hand, but I was was surprised by how lovely she was being about her ex. Nice for their kids. **Nzinga** , I mostly agree; I have more sympathy for Foster than I do for most slebs whining about privacy - as you note, she’s been in the public eye since she was a kid and has barely had a choice at any point. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-70th-annual-golden-globe-awards/647115.md?page=3)