# The 7E7 is a go! Whoo Whoo! **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [April 26, 2004, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-7e7-is-a-go-whoo-whoo/242102 "2004-04-26T15:22:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2004, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-7e7-is-a-go-whoo-whoo/242102/1 "2004-04-26T15:22:26Z")
Boeing has gotten an order for fifty 7E7s from All Nippon Airlines. This means the “Dreamliner” will go into production. At one level for us cattle-class people, it is just another flying bus. On the other hand a new, better, safer, more efficient airplane is neat and I like neat things. Whoo Whoo! ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2004, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-7e7-is-a-go-whoo-whoo/242102/2 "2004-04-26T15:33:42Z")
> [@Paul in Saudi](#): > > Whoo Whoo! I don’t think it’s going to be a train, Paul. 😃 In any case, I enjoy aircraft, too. But when in the hell will we finally get suborbital aircraft? I want commercial flights that let passengers clearly see the curvature of the Earth! ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2004, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-7e7-is-a-go-whoo-whoo/242102/3 "2004-04-26T15:41:27Z")
Forget suborbital aircraft. That is just a bridge technology until we get to transporter beams. Besides will you suborbital aircraft have movies? Free liquor? I think not. ---
**Author:** ![FatBaldGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecd19e/32.png) [@FatBaldGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FatBaldGuy)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2004, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-7e7-is-a-go-whoo-whoo/242102/4 "2004-04-26T15:51:53Z")
What happened to the 787 and 797 (not to mention the 7A7 - 7D7)? Where did the “E” come from? ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2004, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-7e7-is-a-go-whoo-whoo/242102/5 "2004-04-26T16:33:09Z")
That’s why we need to revive the airship, Paul. A slow boat to anywhere, with luxury accomodations and helium-filled gasbags. Solar panels on the top and sides, too, and satellite uplinks (and radio downlinks) that can support wide-pipe DSL. The ultimate in luxury transportation, woefully underused by the staid and ossified commercial mass transit industry. ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2004, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-7e7-is-a-go-whoo-whoo/242102/6 "2004-04-26T17:17:21Z")
> [@Fat Bald Guy](#): > > What happened to the 787 and 797 (not to mention the 7A7 - 7D7)? Where did the “E” come from? E = Extra-f&cking-large! ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2004, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-7e7-is-a-go-whoo-whoo/242102/7 "2004-04-26T18:30:19Z")
Hansome aircraft/ Hijack– Nashville International had an Anatov vist 2 weeks back. For the world’s largest transport plane, it sure does have a slow landing speed. ---
**Author:** ![pilot141](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e0b2c6/32.png) [@pilot141](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pilot141)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2004, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-7e7-is-a-go-whoo-whoo/242102/8 "2004-04-26T22:11:03Z")
Bring it on! I want to fly that thing! (It won’t make up for the disappointment of the Sonic Cruiser cancellation, though). ---
**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2004, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-7e7-is-a-go-whoo-whoo/242102/9 "2004-04-27T02:24:50Z")
So is it going to continue to be called the 7E7? ---
**Author:** ![Yesterdog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/d07c76/32.png) [@Yesterdog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yesterdog)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2004, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-7e7-is-a-go-whoo-whoo/242102/10 "2004-04-27T02:39:32Z")
Do I sense a new Air Force One after the 747 is retired? ---
**Author:** ![spiralscratch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dfb087/32.png) [@spiralscratch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spiralscratch)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2004, 8:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-7e7-is-a-go-whoo-whoo/242102/11 "2004-04-27T08:29:00Z")
> [@Ryan K](#): > > Do I sense a new Air Force One after the 747 is retired? Probably not. The 7E7 is a much smaller plane than the 747. My understanding is that it’s designed more as a replacement for the 757 and 767. If Boeing were to retire the 747 series, they would probably have to replace it with something comparable. I’d think that whatever that replacement is, it would be used as the basis for a new Air Force One. Or, if it happened that there was no direct successor to the 747, I’d guess that the 777 would be a decent replacement. The Airbus A380 could be used as well, if not for the fact that the US government is heavily biased against Airbus in favor of Boeing. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2004, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-7e7-is-a-go-whoo-whoo/242102/12 "2004-04-27T14:13:35Z")
> [@spiralscratch](#): > > Probably not. > > The 7E7 is a much smaller plane than the 747. My understanding is that it’s designed more as a replacement for the 757 and 767. > > If Boeing were to retire the 747 series, they would probably have to replace it with something comparable. I’d think that whatever that replacement is, it would be used as the basis for a new Air Force One. Or, if it happened that there was no direct successor to the 747, I’d guess that the 777 would be a decent replacement. Or whatever comes along as the Boeing “flagship” plane by replacement time – the 747-type presidential transports started serving besides the 707s around 91-92, after the 707s had served around **30** years. This was a little over 20 years after the first 747s flew and some 12 years after they stopped making new 707s. It’s quite within reason that barring some major technological leap, the Prez would still be flying a 747-based model over decade after Boeing shuts down that assembly line. The deal with the 747 was that you needed something made-in-USA with a certain range, endurance, and capacity for installing various systems. Same criteria almost surely will apply for the next one. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2004, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-7e7-is-a-go-whoo-whoo/242102/13 "2004-04-27T14:17:09Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > and some 12 years after they stopped making new 707s. … as airliners, that is. They still turned out AWACS and J-STAR custom models through the 80s. ---
**Author:** ![JohnBckWLD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d6d6ee/32.png) [@JohnBckWLD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnBckWLD)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2005, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-7e7-is-a-go-whoo-whoo/242102/14 "2005-01-18T16:20:45Z")
> [@spiralscratch](#): > > …If Boeing were to retire the 747 series, they would probably have to replace it with something comparable. I’d think that whatever that replacement is, it would be used as the basis for a new Air Force One. Or, if it happened that there was no direct successor to the 747, I’d guess that the 777 would be a decent replacement. The Airbus A380 could be used as well, if not for the fact that the US government is heavily biased against Airbus in favor of Boeing. Well, Airbus’ A380 looks beautiful. ["Airbus is betting its newfound status as the world’s leading jet maker on the “superjumbo”](http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/france_airbus_a380_s_debut) (double decker jet) that has a 262-foot wingspan, a tail as tall as a seven-story building and which cost $13 billion to develop". ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2005, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-7e7-is-a-go-whoo-whoo/242102/15 "2005-01-18T16:35:58Z")
Look, the first Airbuses will carry 555 passenger. Virgin says they will have a casino and beauty shop aboard. Fine. We all know we soon be rid of those niceties and will crammed in their like 900 sardines. 900 people trying to hit customs and the baggage claim at the same time? That sounds like no fun at all to this frequent flyer. My gosh your ticket could be for seat II-I-50 (that is Seat I, row Fifty, Second Deck). Moo! Moo! Technically quite cool, but does anyone think it will have any amenities for us in the back of the plane? No fun. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2005, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-7e7-is-a-go-whoo-whoo/242102/16 "2005-01-18T17:02:24Z")
> [@Paul in Saudi](#): > > We all know we soon be rid of those niceties and will crammed in their like 900 sardines. 900 people trying to hit customs and the baggage claim at the same time? That sounds like no fun at all to this frequent flyer. > > No fun. I heartily agree. Bigger planes are a really, really bad idea until ‘they’ figure out how to make everything else run smoothly and efficently. If you have ever been through an airport that has had 2 747’s and 2 767’s land? Imagine adding 25-50% more people - scary to think about. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2005, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-7e7-is-a-go-whoo-whoo/242102/17 "2005-01-18T18:03:32Z")
Anybody got a link to some good 7E7 pics? ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2005, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-7e7-is-a-go-whoo-whoo/242102/18 "2005-01-18T20:09:01Z")
> [@Larry Borgia](#): > > Anybody got a link to some good 7E7 pics? [http://www.boeing.com/commercial/7e7/flash.html](http://www.boeing.com/commercial/7e7/flash.html) ---
**Author:** ![The\_Scrivener](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@The\_Scrivener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Scrivener)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2005, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-7e7-is-a-go-whoo-whoo/242102/19 "2005-01-18T20:36:24Z")
I hope these new planes come factory-equipped with all the available anti-terrorism bells-'n-whistles. I’m afraid that regular-sized jets are too vulnerable as it is to terrorists with lasers or shoulder-mounted AA missiles; how much more tempting would a big fat shiny new model with 500-800 passengers be to these monsters? ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2005, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-7e7-is-a-go-whoo-whoo/242102/20 "2005-01-19T05:32:02Z")
Thanks **Clothahump**. (I suppose I could have figured to go to [Boeing.com](http://Boeing.com) by myself. I guess it’s true that dope makes you lazy! 😃 ) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-7e7-is-a-go-whoo-whoo/242102.md?page=2)