# The 9th Annual Steelers March to the Super Bowl Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-9th-annual-steelers-march-to-the-super-bowl-thread/592586>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [August 13, 2011, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-9th-annual-steelers-march-to-the-super-bowl-thread/592586 "2011-08-13T17:20:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 16\
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**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2012, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-9th-annual-steelers-march-to-the-super-bowl-thread/592586/541 "2012-01-12T05:37:31Z")

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[Hitler reacts to the Steelers’ loss](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jD6B1CXXgM0).

Man, I love these mashups.

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**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2012, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-9th-annual-steelers-march-to-the-super-bowl-thread/592586/542 "2012-01-13T03:27:12Z")

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[Pittsburgh mayor Luke Ravenstahl Tebows](http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/pittsburgh-mayor-luke-ravenstahl-puts-tim-tebow-jersey-tebows-steelers-lose-broncos-article-1.1004496?localLinksEnabled=false)

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**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2012, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-9th-annual-steelers-march-to-the-super-bowl-thread/592586/543 "2012-01-14T13:35:48Z")

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> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#):
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> [Pittsburgh mayor Luke Ravenstahl Tebows](http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/pittsburgh-mayor-luke-ravenstahl-puts-tim-tebow-jersey-tebows-steelers-lose-broncos-article-1.1004496?localLinksEnabled=false)

I’m surprised Pittsburgh would vote in a mayor with “Raven” in his name. I guess the “stahl” partially counteracts this, since it forms the prefix for Stallworth, who happens to be my favorite Steeler of all time.

Since the season is over, I hope you don’t mind a little thread derailment, but I feel this is the best place to ask this request:

Speaking of John Stallworth, does anyone know how I can purchase an authentic Stallworth #82 Steeler jersey that is NOT autographed? Even if it’s not authentic, even a high quality replica in the style of the '70’s uniform would work. I’ve scoured the web, made many phone calls, and can’t seem to locate one.

Thanks!

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2012, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-9th-annual-steelers-march-to-the-super-bowl-thread/592586/544 "2012-01-14T19:15:04Z")

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> [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](#):
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> I’m surprised Pittsburgh would vote in a mayor with “Raven” in his name.

Yeah, but Ravenstahl sounds like Riefenstahl, and everyone knows that Steeler fans are worse than Nazis. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2012, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-9th-annual-steelers-march-to-the-super-bowl-thread/592586/545 "2012-01-14T21:54:50Z")

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> [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](#):
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> I’m surprised Pittsburgh would vote in a mayor with “Raven” in his name. I guess the “stahl” partially counteracts this, since it forms the prefix for Stallworth, who happens to be my favorite Steeler of all time.
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> Since the season is over, I hope you don’t mind a little thread derailment, but I feel this is the best place to ask this request:
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> Speaking of John Stallworth, does anyone know how I can purchase an authentic Stallworth #82 Steeler jersey that is NOT autographed? Even if it’s not authentic, even a high quality replica in the style of the '70’s uniform would work. I’ve scoured the web, made many phone calls, and can’t seem to locate one.
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> Thanks!

Back a few years ago when we played against the Ravens in the play-offs, he changed it to “Steelerstahl” that weekend. Everytime the media referred to him, it was “Steelerstahl”. (I believe that was the AFC championship, right before we beat Arizona in the Superbowl, but don’t quote me on that)

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2012, 7:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-9th-annual-steelers-march-to-the-super-bowl-thread/592586/546 "2012-01-17T07:32:58Z")

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So was it a relief when you saw the Pats destroy the Broncos, figuring you’d also get destroyed?

Or was it more of an embarasment that a team that should’ve beat you 33-13 or so in turn looked like a JV football squad against real competition?

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**Author:** ![Jman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jman/32/4416_2.png) [@Jman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jman)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2012, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-9th-annual-steelers-march-to-the-super-bowl-thread/592586/547 "2012-01-17T18:54:33Z")

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Where was your team this year, SenorBeef?

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**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2012, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-9th-annual-steelers-march-to-the-super-bowl-thread/592586/548 "2012-01-17T18:56:11Z")

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> [@Jman](#):
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> Where was your team this year, SenorBeef?

The Browns have perfected time travel; they are in next year.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2012, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-9th-annual-steelers-march-to-the-super-bowl-thread/592586/549 "2012-01-17T21:23:17Z")

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> [@Jman](#):
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> Where was your team this year, SenorBeef?

Oh, my team has sucked forever, the pain has long ago set in. It doesn’t particularly bother me to recognize that my team sucks now.

On the other hand, your Tebow wounds are fresh and hilarious.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2012, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-9th-annual-steelers-march-to-the-super-bowl-thread/592586/550 "2012-01-22T15:02:07Z")

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So I saw a [pft item](http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/22/steelers-ready-for-big-changes-on-defense/) that says the Steelers are going into the year 25m above the cap.

If LeBeau retires, maybe you should think about purging expensive vets and make it a rebuilding year. A few years without making the playoffs combined with the knowledge that your last run was ended by Tebow passing all over you would be pretty awesome.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2012, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-9th-annual-steelers-march-to-the-super-bowl-thread/592586/551 "2012-01-22T15:26:56Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> So was it a relief when you saw the Pats destroy the Broncos, figuring you’d also get destroyed?
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> Or was it more of an embarasment that a team that should’ve beat you 33-13 or so in turn looked like a JV football squad against real competition?

Little of both, really. I agree that we would have been in bad shape to face the Patriots and likely lost, and embarrassed that we were beaten by Teblow. Incidentally, anyone hear the suggestion that the Bronco’s last play against Pittsburgh was illegal? It’s nothing now, but interesting.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2012, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-9th-annual-steelers-march-to-the-super-bowl-thread/592586/552 "2012-01-22T15:31:38Z")

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If it was illegal, it would’ve been in a ridiculous ticky tacky “your head needed to be 6 inches further up” way. It wasn’t a textbook formation but that sort of misalignment almost never gets called in the NFL, not an issue at all.

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2012, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-9th-annual-steelers-march-to-the-super-bowl-thread/592586/553 "2012-01-22T15:55:43Z")

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I have a coworker who is the worst of the worst of the worst with the “the Steelers can do _no_ wrong _ever_, and any season that ends without them hoisting the Lombardi is because the NFL fixed the games that way” attitude.

It’s been hell ever since that “illegal formation” came to light. She has seriously spent two weeks railing about how the fact they’re not having a do-over game is evidence of the league’s anti-Steelers bias.

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**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2012, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-9th-annual-steelers-march-to-the-super-bowl-thread/592586/554 "2012-01-22T16:59:16Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> If it was illegal, it would’ve been in a ridiculous ticky tacky “your head needed to be 6 inches further up” way. It wasn’t a textbook formation but that sort of misalignment almost never gets called in the NFL, not an issue at all.

It actually gets called all the time. This year I saw many illegal formation calls.

But that’s not why the Steelers lost. They lost because they played badly. If their season hinged on an illegal formation call against a team that backed into the playoffs with a losing streak they deserved to lose.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2012, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-9th-annual-steelers-march-to-the-super-bowl-thread/592586/555 "2012-01-22T17:02:37Z")

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Illegal formation calls are usually called when they actually screw it up - two receivers think the other guy is the one supposed to be covering the end and they both line up 2 yards behind the LOS, that sort of thing will get called. A guy who’s lined up with his head next to the lineman’s shoulders, who’s intending to be on the line, just not quite lined up right, very rarely gets called.

It seems to be more along with the intent (are the right number of guys attempting to line up on the line of scrimmage? Are the right guys doing it?) rather than the details of execution (is this guy a foot too far back?)

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**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2012, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-9th-annual-steelers-march-to-the-super-bowl-thread/592586/556 "2012-01-22T18:12:57Z")

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One of my jobs as a sideline referee looking down the line of scrimmage is to check for that sort of thing. Granted, I’m currently doing high school JV, and we let a lot of that slide.

Players on the line are supposed to break the plane of the center’s body. Looking at the play in question, I’d say the TE was close enough. Mike Pereira said the same thing; normally I wouldn’t give his opinion much weight, but he _was_ a linesman when he was working as a ref.

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