# The Absolute Worst Christmas Song, Bar None

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-absolute-worst-christmas-song-bar-none/928972>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 26, 2020, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-absolute-worst-christmas-song-bar-none/928972 "2020-12-26T17:16:13Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2020, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-absolute-worst-christmas-song-bar-none/928972/22 "2020-12-27T03:59:54Z")

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> [@bump](#):
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> a 200 person armpit farting concerto

I’d listen to that!

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2020, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-absolute-worst-christmas-song-bar-none/928972/23 "2020-12-27T04:09:03Z")

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> [@Andy\_L](#):
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> The original post names the song (once, near the end).
> 
> The song is pretty bad - for one thing, the Christmas story makes it pretty clear that Mary did know (an angel told her, in enough detail to answer most of the questions in the song)

Maybe it’s a really blasphemous song, and it’s talking to a different Mary.

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2020, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-absolute-worst-christmas-song-bar-none/928972/24 "2020-12-27T04:09:30Z")

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When I lived in my old town, I was involved in a Christmas project for needy families, and was there wrapping presents with a lot of other people, including a group of teenage boys. The director put on this HORRIBLE CD of hard-rock Christmas carols, and when I heard the people at the next table say, “I’m going to leave if they don’t change the music,” something I was actually thinking about doing myself, I told her, and she agreed that she really didn’t like it either and did change it. She put it on because she had two young-adult sons herself and thought the kids there might have liked it.

Sorry, bad music is bad music, no matter the genre.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2020, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-absolute-worst-christmas-song-bar-none/928972/25 "2020-12-27T04:34:46Z")

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> I will not click on that which goes unnamed. Rant is rendered null.
> 
> Anyway, we all know the worst is _‘Christmas Shoes’._

But it’s almost worth it existing just to justify Patton Oswalt’s scathing [takedown](https://youtu.be/iq10bz3PxyY) of it.

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**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2020, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-absolute-worst-christmas-song-bar-none/928972/26 "2020-12-27T04:51:32Z")

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> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> When I lived in my old town, I was involved in a Christmas project for needy families, and was there wrapping presents with a lot of other people, including a group of teenage boys. The director put on this HORRIBLE CD of hard-rock Christmas carols, and when I heard the people at the next table say, “I’m going to leave if they don’t change the music,” something I was actually thinking about doing myself, I told her, and she agreed that she really didn’t like it either and did change it. She put it on because she had two young-adult sons herself and thought the kids there might have liked it.

Might it have been A Twisted Christmas by Twisted Sister?

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2020, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-absolute-worst-christmas-song-bar-none/928972/27 "2020-12-27T05:02:23Z")

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No, it wasn’t. Now, THAT might have at least been fun the first time.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2020, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-absolute-worst-christmas-song-bar-none/928972/28 "2020-12-27T05:17:53Z")

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> [@Trinopus](#):
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> I’ve always hated the little drummer boy…the music is dull and annoyingly repetitious, and the story is dumb. Yeah, let’s soothe the newborn with a _drum solo_ . Why not bagpipes while you’re at it?

Like [this?](https://youtu.be/6MIx4whjFE0?t=217) 😃

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**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2020, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-absolute-worst-christmas-song-bar-none/928972/29 "2020-12-27T05:26:25Z")

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OP is on drugs or something. The absolute worst Christmas song, bar none is _Do They Know It’s Christmas?_

I mean, you gather up a who’s who of 80’s pop stars for the noble cause of raising money to assist in the relief of one of the most devastating famines in living memory, and you record _that?!?_

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2020, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-absolute-worst-christmas-song-bar-none/928972/30 "2020-12-27T05:56:45Z")

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(Who would think anyone would be interested almost 40 years later, especially after it was revealed that the African “aid” caused more problems than it solved?)

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2020, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-absolute-worst-christmas-song-bar-none/928972/31 "2020-12-27T07:25:09Z")

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> [@Cervaise](#):
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> In the Discourse preview, sometimes I got the little Youtube preview rectangle along with the link, and sometimes I didn’t. I jiggered with it a bit, got it to where it seemed to be working, and clicked Post.
> 
> And then… no preview. Just a silent link.

Possible (speculative?) explanation: YouTube and perhaps other sites may have been having problems yesterday. I noticed yesterday that I wasn’t able to view any YouTube videos – no error message or anything, the videos simply wouldn’t load. It’s working today.

I spoke to a friend today, and this topic came up. He asked me if I got my internet service through AT&T. (I do. Do you, @Cervaise?) My friend said he heard scuttlebutt to the effect that AT&T service was affected because of that AT&T facility that got damaged in the Nashville explosion.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2020, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-absolute-worst-christmas-song-bar-none/928972/32 "2020-12-27T07:26:48Z")

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My nomination for the most annoying Xmas music (at least that I know) is “Christmas Don’t Be Late”, and specifically when sung by the Chipmunks. (As is, of course, anything sung by the Chipmunks.)

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2020, 8:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-absolute-worst-christmas-song-bar-none/928972/33 "2020-12-27T08:24:47Z")

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I’m in Europe, so no.

I suspect it’s just that I don’t yet grasp the subtleties of Discourse.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2020, 8:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-absolute-worst-christmas-song-bar-none/928972/34 "2020-12-27T08:26:31Z")

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> [@bump](#):
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> you do realize that Christmas is a Christian religious holiday, don’t you?

You do realize that you quoted an excerpt from my post that explicitly includes the phrase “hanging onto the vestiges of the season’s original religious purpose,” don’t you?

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2020, 8:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-absolute-worst-christmas-song-bar-none/928972/35 "2020-12-27T08:31:56Z")

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> [@Cervaise](#):
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> I suspect it’s just that I don’t yet grasp the subtleties of Discourse.

Okay, I see the problem with your link. You used the wrong format. You had:

```auto
[text](URL)

```

which displays text as a link to URL. This can be used even in the midst of a line or paragraph of other text

To get the “OneBox” format, where it shows a preview of the linked page, you must put the URL alone on a line, with no [text] part and no parentheses around the URL and nothing else at all on the same line.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2020, 8:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-absolute-worst-christmas-song-bar-none/928972/36 "2020-12-27T08:35:48Z")

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Thanks. I tried that version, and the Discourse draft viewer on the right showed only the thumbnail image published by youtube, not the video preview.

I think I need to send a bunch of test messages to myself before trying anything complicated.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2020, 8:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-absolute-worst-christmas-song-bar-none/928972/37 "2020-12-27T08:41:00Z")

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> [@Cervaise](#):
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> Thanks. I tried that version, and the Discourse draft viewer on the right showed only the thumbnail image published by youtube, not the video preview.

As I noted in the Trump Martial Law thread also, I was having problems with YouTube yesterday. So, independently of your experience above, maybe there was something going on there. So yeah, try some experiments with it now and see what happens. Like this:

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/wlZ84I51WBY/maxresdefault.jpg "Mary, Did You Know?") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlZ84I51WBY)

ETA: And yeah, I think I see what you’re talking about now too. The preview shows the picture, but no clickable link to actually play the video in the preview. Once actually posted, it looks like it works.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2020, 8:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-absolute-worst-christmas-song-bar-none/928972/38 "2020-12-27T08:54:50Z")

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> [@Gorsnak](#):
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> OP is on drugs or something. The absolute worst Christmas song, bar none is _Do They Know It’s Christmas?_
> 
> I mean, you gather up a who’s who of 80’s pop stars for the noble cause of raising money to assist in the relief of one of the most devastating famines in living memory, and you record _that?!?_

_”Well tonight thank God it’s them instead of you!”_

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2020, 9:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-absolute-worst-christmas-song-bar-none/928972/39 "2020-12-27T09:06:49Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> Once actually posted, it looks like it works.

Yeah, that’s exactly what I wanted to happen.

When I saw how the actual post was rendered, I grumbled, and shrugged it off. Had I known that the Official SDMB Judges’ Panel would climb up my asshole because this key piece of information was inaccessibly locked inside the fortress of a two-second click, I would have taken another crack at it.

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**Author:** ![Die\_Capacitrix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/die_capacitrix/32/9_2.png) [@Die\_Capacitrix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Die_Capacitrix)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2020, 9:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-absolute-worst-christmas-song-bar-none/928972/40 "2020-12-27T09:13:01Z")

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> [@Cervaise](#):
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> fortress of a two-second click

I don’t know about you, but most YouTube videos mean ads, and I’ve had enough of those.

My burning hate is reserved for “The Christmas Song”, also know as “Chestnuts Roasting on an Open Fire”. I will not provide a link because I might hear it. Even just typing the title puts the song in m head.

ARGH!

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**Author:** ![Borborygmi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/borborygmi/32/217_2.png) [@Borborygmi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Borborygmi)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2020, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-absolute-worst-christmas-song-bar-none/928972/41 "2020-12-27T13:03:54Z")

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Cervaise didn’t know  
That his YouTube link  
Would get this much attention  
Cervaise didn’t know  
That his YouTube link  
Would lead to such dissention  
Didn’t know that his YouTube link  
Wouldn’t suit Discourse’s whim  
The video he linked to was then re-linked for him

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