# The adamu "slave to the gods" **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [December 12, 2012, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-adamu-slave-to-the-gods/643788 "2012-12-12T03:01:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2012, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-adamu-slave-to-the-gods/643788/21 "2012-12-12T04:56:25Z")
Comparative mythology should not be attempted by amateurs. As Jung and Campbell have demonstrated, it’s easy to produce feel-good nonsense validating your ideas by taking many cultures’ myths completely out of context. This site is a facile hodgepodge of half-understood ideas. If you do a little further research on almost any culture or concept mentioned on the page you have given, you’ll find it does not support the all-in-one message of the site. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2012, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-adamu-slave-to-the-gods/643788/22 "2012-12-12T05:07:08Z")
> [@Dr.Drake](#): > > As Jung and Campbell have demonstrated, it’s easy to produce feel-good nonsense validating your ideas by taking many cultures’ myths completely out of context. Are you using “demonstrated” ironically? Because I might agree with it. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2012, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-adamu-slave-to-the-gods/643788/23 "2012-12-12T05:13:54Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > Are you using “demonstrated” ironically? Because I might agree with it. I’m not a fan of Jung or Campbell, though I recognize their influence and popularity. ---
**Author:** ![Latro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a87d85/32.png) [@Latro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Latro)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2012, 11:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-adamu-slave-to-the-gods/643788/24 "2012-12-12T11:00:12Z")
> [@Dr.Drake](#): > > it’s easy to produce feel-good nonsense validating your ideas by taking many cultures’ myths completely out of context. Ah, you mean like that nonsense of: “All cultures around the world have a flood myth” ? ---
**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2012, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-adamu-slave-to-the-gods/643788/25 "2012-12-12T12:41:45Z")
> [@blacktophat](#): > > [http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/genesis/](http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/genesis/) > > so.. in my quest for spritual understanding, ive come across this. > > it has totally opened my mind to a whole new perception of reality. > > it basically fits right in with every other theory ive read. > > just connects all the dots in a convenient way. > > “god” is “satan”. “satan” is really enki-ea prince of earth. > > thoughts opinions? It’s sort of correct, but very distorted. Every being is one of God’s children and in the end God (the Father) will bring into compliance all of His children including Satan. So Satan is also a child of God, and therfore can claim to be God and has in Scriptures. Satan’s present way he is trying out is enslaving his children, the children of the earth, so yes in that sense mankind is slave to Satan who is/was god of this earth. But ultimately no as we are children of God the Father where we are no longer slaves but sons and daughters, and when that happens in a person’s life Satan is now a servent and subject to our command. Peace ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2012, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-adamu-slave-to-the-gods/643788/26 "2012-12-12T12:44:28Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > Dogs flew spaceships! > > The Aztecs invented the vacation! > > Men and women are the same sex! > > Our forefathers took drugs! > > Your brain is not the boss! > > Yes! That’s right! > > Everything you know is wrong! Hello seekers, here we go again… Here, have a nice blue moss! ---
**Author:** ![furdmort](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@furdmort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furdmort)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2012, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-adamu-slave-to-the-gods/643788/27 "2012-12-12T12:55:41Z")
The clown who wrote this ([http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/genesis/](http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/genesis/)) did a pretty poor job of reading the King James bible as he doesn’t seem to be aware of the places where it implies (or straight up says) that there were multiple gods. “The sons of the gods mated with the daughters of man” and similar things. Whoever wrote it has trouble with homonyms. Seriously. What is so special about that site? It looks like any other random bible crazy. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2012, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-adamu-slave-to-the-gods/643788/28 "2012-12-12T13:32:48Z")
> [@scabpicker](#): > > And breasts. Breasts go a long way toward selling me on a religion’s plausibility. No, wait, that’s action movies. Seriously, it’d be a big draw in religion too. This is one area where the Hindus are way ahead of the rest of the pack. The extra arms are kind of hot too. ---
**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2012, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-adamu-slave-to-the-gods/643788/29 "2012-12-12T14:04:38Z")
That’s hardly a new concept. At the time of early christianity, there already was a sect believing that YHWH was an evil god, while the snake was the good one. However, the “prince of the earth”, in this case, would probably have been YHWH, since he was the demiurge, ruling the material world. ---
**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2012, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-adamu-slave-to-the-gods/643788/30 "2012-12-12T14:20:42Z")
I’m not wading through some tacky web page just to give my thoughts on some moldy Sumerian god. Unless of course the worshipers have an apartment building with cold riveted girders with cores of pure selenium. I mean then I’m all in of course. ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2012, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-adamu-slave-to-the-gods/643788/31 "2012-12-12T14:46:17Z")
Are you the Key Master or the Gate Keeper? ---
**Author:** ![Latro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a87d85/32.png) [@Latro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Latro)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2012, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-adamu-slave-to-the-gods/643788/32 "2012-12-12T15:09:03Z")
> [@clairobscur](#): > > That’s hardly a new concept. At the time of early christianity, there already was a sect believing that YHWH was an evil god, while the snake was the good one. So did the Albigensians ( and your own Cathars) believe that the world was created by the devil. Cathar _Parfaits_ would abstain from anything worldly. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2012, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-adamu-slave-to-the-gods/643788/33 "2012-12-12T15:16:29Z")
Oh, look, someone’s found the Gnostic heresy and thinks it’s all shiny-new. Can’t keep a good demiurge down, that’s the truth. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2012, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-adamu-slave-to-the-gods/643788/34 "2012-12-12T15:25:49Z")
I think our OP has finished dropping his links in in the threads he has participated in, and gone on. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2012, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-adamu-slave-to-the-gods/643788/35 "2012-12-12T15:46:54Z")
Well He’s down on those evil Masons so that’s good enough for me. Isn’t there something in Nostradamus about beware the fez wearers in their tiny chariots? ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2012, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-adamu-slave-to-the-gods/643788/36 "2012-12-12T15:47:04Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > Oh, look, someone’s found the Gnostic heresy and thinks it’s all shiny-new. Can’t keep a good demiurge down, that’s the truth. It’s somewhere halfway between “The Gnostic Heresy” and “The meta-plot to Assassin’s Creed”, I think. ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2012, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-adamu-slave-to-the-gods/643788/37 "2012-12-12T15:47:57Z")
Let me try to do you a favor and explain exactly what you need to do to make this an interesting and useful discussion, rather than what you have here so far. > [@blacktophat](#): > > it has totally opened my mind to a whole new perception of reality. How so? Can you describe this new perception to us? What makes the new perception better than the old perception? > [@](#): > > it basically fits right in with every other theory ive read. “For instance, part X of this new thing correlates to parts Y, Z, and Q of Christianity, Islam, and quantum physics respectively, because \_\_\_\_\_\_\_” (Fill in the blanks) > [@](#): > > just connects all the dots in a convenient way. What dots? Where do the dots come from? How are those dots connected by this new philosophy, and in what way are these connections “convenient”? I think you’ll find that people here are willing to at least listen politely, but you have GOT to provide something to chew on. You can’t just plop a link into the room, wander off, and expect everyone else to do all the work for you. Tell us WHY we should spend the time investigating it, at least. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2012, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-adamu-slave-to-the-gods/643788/38 "2012-12-12T17:08:37Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > Isn’t there something in Nostradamus about beware the fez wearers in their tiny chariots? The sun will green the mountain on the sheep reading the grain The oxcart flies to the shrine, or the lion meets with the ocean. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2012, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-adamu-slave-to-the-gods/643788/39 "2012-12-12T17:25:29Z")
> [@scabpicker](#): > > And breasts. Breasts go a long way toward selling me on a religion’s plausibility. No, wait, that’s action movies. Fertility goddesses were good enough for the Cro-magnons so they should be good enough for us. Give me that really old time religion! ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2012, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-adamu-slave-to-the-gods/643788/40 "2012-12-12T17:58:05Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > The sun will green the mountain > on the sheep reading the grain > The oxcart flies to the shrine, or > the lion meets with the ocean. It is undeniably spooky, how accurate he was. Gives me the willies, I tell you. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-adamu-slave-to-the-gods/643788.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-adamu-slave-to-the-gods/643788.md?page=3)