# The aggressive immigration strategy of the Trump administration

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-aggressive-immigration-strategy-of-the-trump-administration/1027349>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [February 3, 2026, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-aggressive-immigration-strategy-of-the-trump-administration/1027349 "2026-02-03T21:44:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2026, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-aggressive-immigration-strategy-of-the-trump-administration/1027349/21 "2026-04-16T21:40:30Z")

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> [@Hari\_Seldon](#):
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> It will if Trump pardons them all, as he has threatened to do.

A pardon is meaningless, because I don’t see the DOJ even going after any of these people to charge them. It would be the state, which is what has recently happened. A federal pardon won’t mean anything to someone convicted and sentenced for state crimes.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2026, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-aggressive-immigration-strategy-of-the-trump-administration/1027349/22 "2026-04-16T21:52:36Z")

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And even if they do get a Trump pardon somehow. As convicted felons they will never work again. So, more crime. Gosh darn, well, ya gotta go with your strengths.

Sort of like the J 6r’s that keep getting arrested.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2026, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-aggressive-immigration-strategy-of-the-trump-administration/1027349/23 "2026-04-16T21:56:25Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> And even if they do get a Trump pardon somehow. As convicted felons they will never work again.

This is a problem, yes. As evidenced here:

> **[Justice Department moves to dismiss Proud Boys and Oath Keepers’ seditious...](https://www.cnn.com/2026/04/14/politics/justice-department-vacate-seditious-conspiracy-convictions-proud-boys-oath-keepers)**
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> The Justice Department moved to dismiss the seditious conspiracy convictions of Proud Boys and Oath Keepers members Tuesday, undoing one of the Biden administration’s most celebrated victories against those who it said inspired the January 6, 2021,...

So now they are trying to make it so the conviction is wiped from history as if it never happened. It hasn’t been successful, and it might never be (I hope not). But it goes to show that even a pardon isn’t enough for these folks. And it wouldn’t be for ICE/CBP folks if they are ever convicted and pardoned down the line.

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**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2026, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-aggressive-immigration-strategy-of-the-trump-administration/1027349/24 "2026-04-17T12:13:02Z")

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ICE agent charged with felony assault:

> **[ICE agent who allegedly pointed gun at another car on Highway 62 charged with...](https://kstp.com/kstp-news/top-news/hennepin-county-prosecutors-charge-ice-agent-with-felony-assault/)**
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> Prosecutors in Hennepin County are bringing felony assault charges against a U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agent in connection with a February incident on Highway 62.

Brian

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2026, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-aggressive-immigration-strategy-of-the-trump-administration/1027349/25 "2026-04-20T15:47:34Z")

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I just got my CCW handgun certification. They should throw the library at this guy.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2026, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-aggressive-immigration-strategy-of-the-trump-administration/1027349/26 "2026-04-20T15:58:48Z")

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Does ICE receive any training at all? You do not do this. I did not need training to know YOU DO NOT DO THIS.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2026, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-aggressive-immigration-strategy-of-the-trump-administration/1027349/27 "2026-04-23T19:40:41Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> Does ICE receive any training at all?

The answer [apparently](https://www.cnn.com/2026/02/27/us/ice-deportation-officers-training-agents-invs) is “Technically yes, but less than about anyone else”.

> US Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers receive far less training than almost any other federal agents given a badge and a gun **—** even less than officials tasked with investigating exotic animal smuggling and odometer fraud, a CNN analysis found.
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> ICE officers historically have received less training, but the agency recently cut the number of training days for new recruits in half amid the Trump administration’s steep deportation quotas and aggressive hiring spree.

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**Post date:** [April 23, 2026, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-aggressive-immigration-strategy-of-the-trump-administration/1027349/28 "2026-04-23T20:18:41Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> The answer [apparently](https://www.cnn.com/2026/02/27/us/ice-deportation-officers-training-agents-invs) is “Technically yes, but less than about anyone else”.

Do they have CCW’s? (conceled carry weapons permits). Can they carry when not in ‘uniform’?

My thought is that these thugs might be walking around threatening people while not in uniform (such as it is). Well that one guy did by pulling a gun on a driver of another vehicle.

And of course they murdered a couple of Americans. But, ho, hum.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2026, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-aggressive-immigration-strategy-of-the-trump-administration/1027349/29 "2026-04-25T13:43:13Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> Do they have CCW’s? (conceled carry weapons permits). Can they carry when not in ‘uniform’?

Many if not a majority of states recognize carry by federal LEAs as authorized ex-officio. And of course the feds do so for their own.

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**Post date:** [April 25, 2026, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-aggressive-immigration-strategy-of-the-trump-administration/1027349/30 "2026-04-25T14:16:43Z")

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> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> Many if not a majority of states recognize carry by federal LEAs as authorized ex-officio. And of course the feds do so for their own.

Well… recognized “ex-officio” carry is NOT the same as training. But training won’t help bullies that just want to bully. Never will.

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**Post date:** [May 23, 2026, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-aggressive-immigration-strategy-of-the-trump-administration/1027349/31 "2026-05-23T12:50:48Z")

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Cases against Chicago protesters dropped with prejudice (cannot be refiled) – better yet sanctions may happen due to misconduct during grand jury proceedings

> **['Broadview Six' charges dropped as Chicago's top federal prosecutor admits...](https://chicago.suntimes.com/immigration/2026/05/21/broadview-ice-protest-grand-jury-transcript-kat-abughazaleh-trump)**
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> U.S. Attorney Andrew Boutros made the highly unusual announcement Thursday, hours after a closed-door meeting was held about redactions made by prosecutors to a set of grand jury transcripts. The Operation Midway Blitz case has now become the most...

Brian

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**Post date:** [May 24, 2026, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-aggressive-immigration-strategy-of-the-trump-administration/1027349/32 "2026-05-24T03:33:55Z")

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Thought I saw this posted somewhere, hard to keep track.  
Trump administration tells green card applicants to apply from abroad.  
[https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-immigration-green-card-changes-9.7209784](https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-immigration-green-card-changes-9.7209784)

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> Experts and attorneys warned that forcing people from those countries to return home to apply for a green card would result in them being barred from coming back. “If families are told that the non-citizen family member must return to his or her country of origin to process their immigrant visa, but immigrant visas are not being processed there, it’s a Catch-22. These policies will effectively create an indefinite separation of families,” wrote World Relief, a humanitarian and refugee resettlement organization.

Wouldn’t be surprised that’s exactly what the administration is hoping for.

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> Immigration attorneys were reviewing the policy memo and announcement Friday afternoon, trying to decipher who it would apply to. “It’s really hard to tell how this is going to be applied,” said Jessie De Haven, senior staff attorney with the California Immigration Project, a non-profit that provides legal services to low-income immigrants.

Again, another administration hope - this one to sow confusion / chaos, like DOGE.

EDIT: What’s with the no-preview thing again - second time today!

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2026, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-aggressive-immigration-strategy-of-the-trump-administration/1027349/33 "2026-05-24T05:19:23Z")

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> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#):
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> EDIT: What’s with the no-preview thing again - second time today!

It happens with a lot of news sites. That’s why I check what it will look like before posting, and if it doesn’t give a preview I turn it into linked text with the source and headline.

Like…

[CBC: Trump administration tells green card applicants to apply from abroad](https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-immigration-green-card-changes-9.7209784)

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**Post date:** [May 24, 2026, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-aggressive-immigration-strategy-of-the-trump-administration/1027349/34 "2026-05-24T05:28:25Z")

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Up until today it’s been hunky dorey for me, then two in a row, but yeah, point taken.

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**Post date:** [May 24, 2026, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-aggressive-immigration-strategy-of-the-trump-administration/1027349/35 "2026-05-24T19:18:25Z")

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Brilliant - missed this…

> [@Trump regime says green card seekers must leave U.S. to apply](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-regime-says-green-card-seekers-must-leave-u-s-to-apply/1030319):
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> I figured this news was big enough to warrant its own thread. The Trump regime now says that green card seekers must leave the U.S. to apply, which will affect hundreds of thousands of people and lead to untold numbers of family separations. But the cruelty is the point. Gift link from the NYT. [https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/22/us/politics/green-card-changes-trump.html?smid=nytcore-android-share](https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/22/us/politics/green-card-changes-trump.html?smid=nytcore-android-share)

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**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2026, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-aggressive-immigration-strategy-of-the-trump-administration/1027349/36 "2026-05-24T23:01:53Z")

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I wish someone would go through Miller’s family’s immigration papers from 1913, find something irregular (maybe a missing comma) and decide he’s got to go back to Belarus.

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**Post date:** [May 24, 2026, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-aggressive-immigration-strategy-of-the-trump-administration/1027349/37 "2026-05-24T23:08:54Z")

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> [@Trump regime says green card seekers must leave U.S. to apply](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-regime-says-green-card-seekers-must-leave-u-s-to-apply/1030319/1):
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> The Trump regime now says that green card seekers must leave the U.S. to apply,

And, of course- not be let back in.

I am not sure he actually has the legal authority to do so. I have little doubt there will be legal challenges soon.

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**Post date:** [May 24, 2026, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-aggressive-immigration-strategy-of-the-trump-administration/1027349/38 "2026-05-24T23:32:33Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> And, of course- not be let back in.

A big part of that being, from CBC link above:

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> “If families are told that the non-citizen family member must return to his or her country of origin to process their immigrant visa, but immigrant visas are not being processed there, it’s a Catch-22

And agreed there’ll be no legal challenges from any Trump shenaniganry. Maybe the Supremes can vacay during their next big Trump showdown.

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