# The Agony of Paul Ryan: It's going to be a looooong five month, Paul **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [June 15, 2016, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-agony-of-paul-ryan-its-going-to-be-a-looooong-five-month-paul/757390 "2016-06-15T02:21:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2016, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-agony-of-paul-ryan-its-going-to-be-a-looooong-five-month-paul/757390/21 "2016-06-15T20:21:01Z")
I remember a quote from RNC Chair Reince Priebus from just a few weeks ago, about the current GOP troubles, “I’m not pouring Bailey’s on my cereal. I’m not sitting here trying to find a Johnnie Walker.” I think there’s a good chance he’s doing EXACTLY those 2 things. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2016, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-agony-of-paul-ryan-its-going-to-be-a-looooong-five-month-paul/757390/22 "2016-06-15T20:55:12Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > Tears and alcohol. And smokes, based on Obama’s retirement video. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2016, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-agony-of-paul-ryan-its-going-to-be-a-looooong-five-month-paul/757390/23 "2016-06-15T21:00:56Z")
I enjoy Twitter, especially in regards to politics, and I take a special joy in tweeting Paul Ryan asking him if he’s enjoying his day, giving him helpful hints, stuff like that. > It’s silly, childish, but so fun and well-deserved. ---
**Author:** ![Deeg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deeg/32/2955_2.png) [@Deeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deeg)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2016, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-agony-of-paul-ryan-its-going-to-be-a-looooong-five-month-paul/757390/24 "2016-06-15T23:01:28Z")
I think Rhythmdvl is largely right. The GOP establishment clearly loathes Trump but they have to walk the line because if by some crazy event (like Sanders’ supporters voting for Trump) he actually wins they want to try to have some influence over him. If they burn bridges now they have no hope of influence in the future. It’s pragmatic and, really, the right thing to do. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2016, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-agony-of-paul-ryan-its-going-to-be-a-looooong-five-month-paul/757390/25 "2016-06-15T23:05:32Z")
> [@Deeg](#): > > I think Rhythmdvl is largely right. The GOP establishment clearly loathes Trump but they have to walk the line because if by some crazy event (like Sanders’ supporters voting for Trump) he actually wins they want to try to have some influence over him. If they burn bridges now they have no hope of influence in the future. > > It’s pragmatic and, really, the right thing to do. It is also right to call it what it is: [Political Bullshit.](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/03/peggy-noonan-mike-murphy_n_123647.html) Trump is like Palin with money. And there is another thing to keep in mind: Virtually all Democrats and more than just a few Republicans **know that the establishment is going for the bullshit.** ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2016, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-agony-of-paul-ryan-its-going-to-be-a-looooong-five-month-paul/757390/26 "2016-06-15T23:09:29Z")
> [@YogSothoth](#): > > Makes me wonder how Boehner would have handled this He would have backed Trump out of Orange-American racial solidarity. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2016, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-agony-of-paul-ryan-its-going-to-be-a-looooong-five-month-paul/757390/27 "2016-06-15T23:51:14Z")
> [@Deeg](#): > > I think Rhythmdvl is largely right. The GOP establishment clearly loathes Trump but they have to walk the line because if by some crazy event (like Sanders’ supporters voting for Trump) he actually wins they want to try to have some influence over him. If they burn bridges now they have no hope of influence in the future. > > It’s pragmatic and, really, the right thing to do. Might be the pragmatic thing to do, but right…? Well, different strokes… I do agree that Ryan and the ‘mainstream’ Republicans will continue the support and may even sell themselves on the story that if Trump somehow wins, he will be so over his head that he’ll ‘beg’ them to run the country for him. I don’t know how much they believe it, but it’s a fantasy they may believe because they have nothing else. I wonder if Ryan cusses out Boehner every time Trump opens his mouth. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2016, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-agony-of-paul-ryan-its-going-to-be-a-looooong-five-month-paul/757390/28 "2016-06-15T23:57:23Z")
> [@YogSothoth](#): > > Makes me wonder how Boehner would have handled this Presciently. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2016, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-agony-of-paul-ryan-its-going-to-be-a-looooong-five-month-paul/757390/29 "2016-06-16T00:00:26Z")
> [@YogSothoth](#): > > Makes me wonder how Boehner would have handled this The way he handled the last thing he handled. By quitting, getting drunk, and going golfing. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2016, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-agony-of-paul-ryan-its-going-to-be-a-looooong-five-month-paul/757390/30 "2016-06-16T00:45:44Z")
I love how Trump has [told the Republican leadership,](http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/15/politics/donald-trump-republican-leaders-by-myself/index.html) including Paul Ryan, to “just please be quiet”. If not, then he threatens he’ll “just do it by myself.” Oh, and he’s doubled down on his earlier statement about surveillance on mosques. This is going to end in tears. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2016, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-agony-of-paul-ryan-its-going-to-be-a-looooong-five-month-paul/757390/31 "2016-06-16T00:59:22Z")
… And it looks like Republicans are obeying Mr. Trump as the leader of their party: [Top Republicans Pretend Donald Trump Didn’t Just Say U.S. Muslims Shield Terrorists](https://theintercept.com/2016/06/15/top-republicans-pretend-donald-trump-didnt-just-say-u-s-muslims-shield-terrorists/) Fingers in ears, “lalalalalalalala, we can’t hear anything bad that Trump says” ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2016, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-agony-of-paul-ryan-its-going-to-be-a-looooong-five-month-paul/757390/32 "2016-06-16T01:03:26Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > The way he handled the last thing he handled. By quitting, getting drunk, and going golfing. Pubs in Congress, take a lesson from John Boehner. ---
**Author:** ![bengangmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@bengangmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bengangmo)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2016, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-agony-of-paul-ryan-its-going-to-be-a-looooong-five-month-paul/757390/33 "2016-06-16T02:24:22Z")
> [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](#): > > Might be the pragmatic thing to do, but right…? Well, different strokes… > > I do agree that Ryan and the ‘mainstream’ Republicans will continue the support and may even sell themselves on the story that if Trump somehow wins, he will be so over his head that he’ll ‘beg’ them to run the country for him. I don’t know how much they believe it, but it’s a fantasy they may believe because they have nothing else. > > I wonder if Ryan cusses out Boehner every time Trump opens his mouth. I don’t think Trump can win… but if I were republican I would do 1 of two things right now… Part A - the two step plan 1. Get our nominee as the VP - maybe Ryan, maybe Boner, maybe Romney 2. Start impeachment proceedings on Jan 21 or Part B - change the convention rules to say that at least 50% of sitting Republican reprensentatives must support the nominee and then deny him the nomination or Part C - He has an actual, real life on TV nervous breakdown and someone is drafted as doing it for the good of the country earning the sympathy and self sacrifice vote ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2016, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-agony-of-paul-ryan-its-going-to-be-a-looooong-five-month-paul/757390/34 "2016-06-16T02:48:35Z")
If were a Republican, I would fake a cancer scare and spend the next five weeks in a cave somewhere. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2016, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-agony-of-paul-ryan-its-going-to-be-a-looooong-five-month-paul/757390/35 "2016-06-16T03:11:27Z")
John Boehner was a political genius! He would have handled this situation cleanly and adroitly. Heeheeheeheeheeeheeheeeheeeeeeeeheehee ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2016, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-agony-of-paul-ryan-its-going-to-be-a-looooong-five-month-paul/757390/36 "2016-06-16T04:58:59Z")
> [@YogSothoth](#): > > Makes me wonder how Boehner would have handled this With tears ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2016, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-agony-of-paul-ryan-its-going-to-be-a-looooong-five-month-paul/757390/37 "2016-06-18T04:06:21Z")
And the dance continues: [Ryan: House Republicans should vote ‘conscience’ on Trump](http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/17/politics/paul-ryan-donald-trump-conscience/) > [@](#): > > Speaker Paul Ryan said House Republicans should not betray their conscience when it comes to backing their party’s presumptive presidential nominee Donald Trump. > > “The last thing I would do is tell anybody to do something that’s contrary to their conscience. Of course I wouldn’t do that,” he told NBC News’ Chuck Todd in an upcoming episode of “Meet the Press” airing Sunday. Paul seems to be picking up on this Not-Trump fellow’s ideas: [Unbound: The Conscience of a Republican Delegate by Curly Haugland & Sean Parnell](https://theconservativemind.net/unbound-the-conscience-of-a-republican-delegate-by-curly-haugland-sean-parnell/) ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2016, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-agony-of-paul-ryan-its-going-to-be-a-looooong-five-month-paul/757390/38 "2016-06-18T04:16:51Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > And the dance continues: [Ryan: House Republicans should vote ‘conscience’ on Trump](http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/17/politics/paul-ryan-donald-trump-conscience/) They have one? ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2016, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-agony-of-paul-ryan-its-going-to-be-a-looooong-five-month-paul/757390/39 "2016-06-18T04:37:09Z")
> [@Catamount](#): > > Boehner’s probably sitting at home laughing his ass off because it’s not his problem. I know I would be. I actually miss the old Boner right now. It’s literally anybody’s guess where this will go. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2016, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-agony-of-paul-ryan-its-going-to-be-a-looooong-five-month-paul/757390/40 "2016-06-18T04:38:16Z")
Well, I’m starting to think Ryan doesn’t have one, since he’s prepared to vote for a racist, religious bigot, because “hey, better than Hilary”. However, he seems to acknowledge that some of his colleagues have them. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-agony-of-paul-ryan-its-going-to-be-a-looooong-five-month-paul/757390.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-agony-of-paul-ryan-its-going-to-be-a-looooong-five-month-paul/757390.md?page=3)