# The air battle in my bedroom.

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**Created:** [August 6, 2013, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-air-battle-in-my-bedroom/665473 "2013-08-06T05:10:50Z")\
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**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2013, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-air-battle-in-my-bedroom/665473/1 "2013-08-06T05:10:50Z")

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Inspired by [this thread.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=698560)

As a boy I built models. Ships, airplanes, some space craft. Never really liked car models. Mostly I built war planes. So of course that leads to fishing line, thumb tacks and the great battle for air superiority of my bedroom.

In the sky above my bed were

P-51 Mustang (natch) with D-Day stripes  
P-38 again with the D-Day stripes  
Spitfire (natch)  
ME-109  
FW-180  
Corsair  
B-17  
B-25  
(my B-29 stayed on the ground in a full diorama)  
F-4 Phantom (horribly out of scale with the others)  
F-111 (don’t know why I built this, I think because it had movable wings)  
F-15

My Focke-Wulf had “smoke” trailing from the engine. (cotton ball streached out and coated with Final Net and painted various shades of grey)

So who battled it out in the sky of your room?

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**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2013, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-air-battle-in-my-bedroom/665473/2 "2013-08-06T06:11:28Z")

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Lessie…from memory, there was an:

F/A-18  
AV-8B  
A-6  
MiG-29  
B-1A  
B-52  
A-10A  
F-14  
F-117

IIRC, the…Hornet? Was launching a missile at the MiG (depicted by a sidewinder suspended on a length of fishing line between the two, trailing a line of paint-highlighted cotton balls), which had already taken a hit (the starboard engine, also denoted by a trail of cotton balls as “smoke” spewing behind, frozen in time) and was going down.

Edit: Almost forgot! At one time, at least, they were all swirling around an [inflatable Pteranodon](http://www.nothingbutdinosaurs.com/catalog/jet-creations-medium-inflatable-pteranodon-dinosaur-toy-dino.html), the giant beast menacing the [del]bedroom[/del]countryside not unlike Rodan.

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**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2013, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-air-battle-in-my-bedroom/665473/3 "2013-08-06T06:36:43Z")

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I had a MiG 21 as well. Forgot about that one.

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**Post date:** [August 6, 2013, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-air-battle-in-my-bedroom/665473/4 "2013-08-06T12:09:16Z")

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My brother had an encounter between a FW-180 and a Twin Mustang, which never happened IRL, and for which there were no kits, but my dad had bought two P-51’s and spliced them with balsawood spar wings.

I remember watching him painting the ME 262 and Mosquito and P-38, etc. leafy cammo on the upper sides and sky blue on the under, and asking “did that really fool anyone?”  
Me, I had a Sopwith Camel and a Fokker Triplane dangling from 6lb fishing line (even then I was insisting that WWI was more significant than WWII)

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**Post date:** [August 6, 2013, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-air-battle-in-my-bedroom/665473/5 "2013-08-06T12:59:22Z")

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I had the old [Hawk Atomic Bomber](http://www.boxartden.com/gallery/var/resizes/Boxart-Collection/HAWK/AEROSPACE/CONCEPTUAL/Hawk%20Atomic%20Bomber%20XAB-1%202nd%20Box.jpg?m=1362186501) hanging from my light fixture. Nothing else I can recall, though.

The Bomber had cool transparent orange flames coming out of its engines; many years later, I cast some copies in clear orange-tinted resin and used them on an [aircar](http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z256/hilbyf/Auburn%20aircar%20project/DSCN2624.jpg) model I built.

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**Post date:** [August 6, 2013, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-air-battle-in-my-bedroom/665473/6 "2013-08-06T15:55:37Z")

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So, did you build them with the landing gear down or up?

Let’s see, I had:  
SBD  
F4F  
P-51  
P-61  
P-80  
Me 262  
B-17  
B-24  
B-29  
B-47  
X-15  
T-33  
F-100  
F-104  
F-105  
F-111  
F-16  
Fokker DR1  
SPAD S.XIII  
Sopwith Camel  
Albatros C.I  
H-19  
CH-47  
UH-1B  
UH-1D  
AH-1

For the record, I never had this complete flotilla airborne all at the same time.

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**Post date:** [August 6, 2013, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-air-battle-in-my-bedroom/665473/7 "2013-08-06T17:14:35Z")

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From memory…  
[ul]  
[li]F4U Corsair[/li][li]P-51D Mustang[/li][li]F-14 Tomcat[/li][li]F-4 Phantoms (set of 4 in Thunderbirds paint)[/li][li]SR-71 Blackbird[/li][li]B-17 Flying Fortress[/li][li]B-25 Mitchell[/li][li]A-4 Skyhawk[/li][li]F-104 Starfighter[/li][li]T-65B X-Wing[/li][li]YT-1300 Freighter (Millenium Falcon)[/li][li]TIE Advanced X1 fighter[/li][li]Hughes 500 helicopter[/li][li]Space Shuttle _Enterprise_ on its 747 carrier[/li][li]Lockheed L-1011 in Delta livery[/li][/ul]  
With absolutely no thought to geographic or temporal cohesiveness, nor to common scale.

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**Post date:** [August 6, 2013, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-air-battle-in-my-bedroom/665473/8 "2013-08-06T17:22:06Z")

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I was a compulsive airplane model builder in my younger days. Every Friday night meant a trip to the hobby store to get a couple of offerings from Airfix, Revell, Monogram and the like. I think I had over 100 at one point; [here’s a picture of me and part of my collection](http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-qjsWVdeEjhI/TgP0uBUDGJI/AAAAAAAAi-o/DxYXV80RmFs/s320/Models.jpg).

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**Post date:** [August 6, 2013, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-air-battle-in-my-bedroom/665473/9 "2013-08-06T17:53:50Z")

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Never had that many, but from memory, not necessarily at the same time, there were these:

Hurricane  
Me109  
Fw190  
B25  
Mosquito  
Beaufighter  
Wellington  
He111  
Do17  
PZL P.11c  
SB2C Helldiver

A number of these were up on threads in a rather ill-sorted diorama.

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**Post date:** [August 6, 2013, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-air-battle-in-my-bedroom/665473/10 "2013-08-06T18:24:07Z")

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> [@blondebear](#):
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> I was a compulsive airplane model builder in my younger days. Every Friday night meant a trip to the hobby store to get a couple of offerings from Airfix, Revell, Monogram and the like. I think I had over 100 at one point; [here’s a picture of me and part of my collection](http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-qjsWVdeEjhI/TgP0uBUDGJI/AAAAAAAAi-o/DxYXV80RmFs/s320/Models.jpg).

I miss hobby stores. ☹

Sometimes, you just really need to toodle down to the corner for a one-ounce bottle of potassium permanganate.

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**Post date:** [August 6, 2013, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-air-battle-in-my-bedroom/665473/11 "2013-08-06T18:29:31Z")

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TOS _Enterprise_ vs. Klingon Battle Cruiser.

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**Post date:** [August 6, 2013, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-air-battle-in-my-bedroom/665473/12 "2013-08-06T18:36:59Z")

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Not as great a number as many of previous posters, but perhaps the most historically INaccurate.

[ol]  
[li]Corsair[/li][li]B-29 Superfortress[/li][li]Sopwith Camel[/li][li]USS Enterprise (the original Star Trek version)[/li][li]X-Wing Fighter[/li][/ol]

I never intentionally put them in a dogfight scenario, but all my buddies gave me shit about it anyway.

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**Post date:** [August 6, 2013, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-air-battle-in-my-bedroom/665473/13 "2013-08-06T18:39:33Z")

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Ahh, great memories.

In dogfights above my bed and on my shelves were:

B-24J Liberator  
F-4 Phantom  
F-86 Sabre  
F-16 Fighting Falcon (with a squashed nose because I filled the nosecone with bb’s and model glue to get it to balance correctly on its gear, but all of the glue in its nose partially melted the nose cone, which drooped like some weird mecha-tapir)  
A-1 Skyraider  
A-7 Corsair (the ugliest of my models, even when weighed against the droop-nosed F-16)

In dogfights, the F-86 always won 😃

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**Post date:** [August 6, 2013, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-air-battle-in-my-bedroom/665473/14 "2013-08-06T18:47:21Z")

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P-51 Mustang  
A6Mx Zero (I forget which variant)  
Hawker Hurricane  
Focke-Wulf 190  
Messerschmidt BF-109E  
P-61 Black Widow  
ME-262 Schwalbe

There were probably others; that’s all I can recall for certain right now. My brother and I tried to keep them all to the same scale (1:48), and the ones we built had retractable gear, so we could display them gear up or down.

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**Post date:** [August 6, 2013, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-air-battle-in-my-bedroom/665473/15 "2013-08-06T19:57:54Z")

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> [@Sailboat](#):
>
> P-51 Mustang  
> A6Mx Zero (I forget which variant)  
> Hawker Hurricane  
> Focke-Wulf 190  
> Messerschmidt BF-109E  
> P-61 Black Widow  
> **ME-262 Schwalbe**
> 
> There were probably others; that’s all I can recall for certain right now. My brother and I tried to keep them all to the same scale (1:48), and the ones we built had retractable gear, so we could display them gear up or down.

Oh yes! I had one of these too, which I’d fitted out as the fighter-bomber variant. Nearly all of mine were 1:72. (I also had an Airfix Saturn V which my brother-in-law built for me, and a sailing ship that was never anywhere near completed.) And I’ve just remembered a very poorly-built Boeing 727 and a Supermarine Attacker as a couple of my very early essays. Oh, and a Me410/U4.

Someone at school once brought in a “Blohm und Voss” which I tiresomely corrected to “Blohm und Voss BV 141b”. I don’t remember seeing the kit anywhere else or I’d have built one.
