# The Alina Habba Pit thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [January 11, 2024, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965 "2024-01-11T17:05:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2024, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/201 "2024-01-30T22:08:07Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > We’re not saying it! We’re just reporting that other people are saying it! Seems like she’s learning that what works on Fox doesn’t work in real life. In real life, and more specifically in court, she now knows that she should vet information before presenting it to the judge, especially if it’s an attack. I would think, at the very least, it would have been worth it for her to send the author an email and ask to be put in contact with the unnamed source so she can hear the info first hand and maybe verify that it’s, ya know, real. Would the NY Post have purposely made this up and published it in hopes that she could use it in this manner? ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2024, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/202 "2024-01-30T23:26:44Z")
So what the hell is “potential bias hostility”? What a maroon! ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2024, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/203 "2024-01-30T23:30:49Z")
> [@Dinsdale](#): > > So what the hell is “potential bias hostility”? It means “Judge is a meany poo-poo head, so we get a free do-over.” ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2024, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/204 "2024-01-30T23:34:40Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > > [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > > > We’re not saying it! We’re just reporting that other people are saying it! > > Seems like she’s learning that what works on Fox doesn’t work in real life. In real life, and more specifically in court, she now knows that she should vet information before presenting it to the judge, especially if it’s an attack. That is certainly the case, but I doubt that either Habba or Trump are actually learning anything. When the usual tactics that Trump is so accustomed to and that work so well with the rubes don’t work in court, their standard explanation is that it’s all Biden’s doing. I don’t think they really believe that, but I do think that Trump genuinely believes that it’s “very unfair” that his tried-and-true tactics for some reason don’t work in a courtroom. > [@Dinsdale](#): > > So what the hell is “potential bias hostility”? I think it refers to English she speak not so good. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/205 "2024-01-31T00:45:55Z")
That the judge was biased against her and told her “no” and “sit down”, and was really mean. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/206 "2024-01-31T01:11:26Z")
So, in legal terms, the judge was a doodyhead. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/207 "2024-01-31T01:54:36Z")
The thing is that she is probably right to some extent. Her court room antics undoubtedly annoyed the judge and that may have made the judge less sympathetic to her arguments at least on a subconscious level. But I doubt that an appeal is going to be granted for self inflicted judicial animosity, and if we are lucky the response on this count by the appeals court should make for an entertaining read. ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/208 "2024-01-31T02:15:22Z")
For a long time I had in my disk drawer the first page of a pleading in which a lawyer started, “I strenuously object…” Adverbs have limited place in legal pleadings. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.E](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.e/32/8932_2.png) [@Mr.E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.E)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/209 "2024-01-31T02:25:07Z")
Everyone knows if you _strenuously_ object then the judge is required to really think hard about your objection before overruling you. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/210 "2024-01-31T04:46:08Z")
I think they’re allowed to respond immediately, as long as they _strenuously_ overrule you. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/211 "2024-01-31T13:45:35Z")
“Strenuously” objecting has unimpeachable courtroom **[precedent](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYmI7J3NCsI)** (3m15s vid – “A Few Good Men”). ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/212 "2024-01-31T15:51:21Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > So, in legal terms, the judge was a doodyhead. In true legal-speak, this is a case of judicial _Caput plenum stercore habet_. ---
**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/213 "2024-01-31T16:39:48Z")
And she just got fired: > Yet again, the most deranged, detached-from-reality belief in Trumpland (including beliefs involving deepstate lizard people) continues to be the belief that Trump might actually pay you for something you did for him and not screw you over. ---
**Author:** ![mjmartin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3d9bf3/32.png) [@mjmartin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mjmartin)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/214 "2024-01-31T16:51:48Z")
> [@griffin1977](#): > > And she just got fired: Not necessarily. It is not at all uncommon for the trial lawyer to not handle the appeal. It’s not even uncommon for trial lawyers not to handle appeals at all. Many appellate lawyers only handle appeals. ---
**Author:** ![xizor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xizor/32/102_2.png) [@xizor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xizor)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/215 "2024-01-31T17:17:17Z")
I assume “interviewing various law firms” really means “seeing which law firm will actually take my call” ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/216 "2024-01-31T17:21:39Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > But I doubt that an appeal is going to be granted for self inflicted judicial animosity, and if we are lucky the response on this count by the appeals court should make for an entertaining read. An appeal on this kind of basis is almost certain to fail, self inflicted or not. Judges can be quite hostile to one party without creating an appeal issue. (I’ve been there). If his decisions were within his discretion, his motivation is not really relevant. ---
**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/217 "2024-01-31T17:22:25Z")
> [@xizor](#): > > I assume “interviewing various law firms” really means “seeing which law firm will actually take my call” What are you implying for the worst client ever, whose lawyers regularly end up disbarred or prosecuted, and never pays his legal bill, even before he takes on a 88 million dollar liability (and probably another 400 mil on top of that in the next couple of days) might have trouble finding s lawyer? ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/218 "2024-01-31T17:38:00Z")
> [@griffin1977](#): > > And she just got fired: [![](https://en.meming.world/images/en/6/6e/Surprised_Pikachu.jpg) ](https://en.meming.world/images/en/6/6e/Surprised_Pikachu.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/219 "2024-01-31T17:51:43Z")
I know, right? With Trump’s renowned dedicated loyalty to his people and Habba’s expert service, it’s a shock to see her fired! 😉 “Any lawyer who takes a TRUMP CASE is either “CRAZY,” or a TRUE AMERICAN PATRIOT”, I think I’m starting to lean to the first of the two options. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/220 "2024-01-31T18:01:05Z")
> [@griffin1977](#): > > Yet again, the most deranged, detached-from-reality belief in Trumpland (including beliefs involving deepstate lizard people) continues to be the belief that Trump might actually pay you for something you did for him and not screw you over. She got paid. See post 188 above. $3million+. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965.md?page=12)