# The Alina Habba Pit thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [January 11, 2024, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965 "2024-01-11T17:05:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/221 "2024-01-31T18:06:04Z")
> [@smithsb](#): > > She got paid. By a PAC. Not by Trump. Trump does not pay for things. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/222 "2024-01-31T18:19:11Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > “Any lawyer who takes a TRUMP CASE is either “CRAZY,” or a TRUE AMERICAN PATRIOT”, I think I’m starting to lean to the first of the two options. A perfectly logically accurate statement. Same as, saying broccoli is either a vegetable or a moon of Saturn. ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/223 "2024-01-31T18:20:57Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > By a PAC. Not by Trump. Trump does not pay for things. Yeah, but I’m sure she doesn’t care who pays her. Here’s the depressing thing - from a certain POV Habba is currently winning at life. As long as she is comfortable not giving a shit what a great many people think of her and her legal skills, she has gotten ahead. Paid $3 million and acquired great notoriety that can be leveraged for more in the MAGAsphere as long as she is shameless. Which, let’s be honest… ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/224 "2024-01-31T18:28:59Z")
Not to belabor this but Trump thinks any money donated (PAC, NFT, trinkets, …) is his personally. He never wants to give anything up - sign of weakness dontcha know. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/225 "2024-01-31T18:49:46Z")
> [@Tamerlane](#): > > Here’s the depressing thing - from a certain POV Habba is currently winning at life. I think she’s at least outperforming her potential. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/226 "2024-01-31T19:07:34Z")
Only if we consider financial gain to be the primary measuring stick Which an unfortunate number of us do ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/227 "2024-01-31T19:10:21Z")
[**#PeterPrinciple**](https://www.investopedia.com/terms/p/peter-principle.asp) Hi, Alina!! ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/228 "2024-01-31T20:07:52Z")
> [@Tamerlane](#): > > Here’s the depressing thing - from a certain POV Habba is currently winning at life. As long as she is comfortable not giving a shit what a great many people think of her and her legal skills, she has gotten ahead. Paid $3 million and acquired great notoriety that can be leveraged for more in the MAGAsphere as long as she is shameless. Which, let’s be honest… She cares. When she spoke to the press following the latest Carroll verdict you could tell she was humiliated by the whole affair. She did not enjoy embarrassing herself and losing so badly. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/229 "2024-01-31T20:21:06Z")
Hmm, is Alina smart enough to not take an appeal that certainly will add a claim of _ineffective assistance of counsel_ to it’s long list of nothingberders? ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/230 "2024-01-31T20:38:49Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > Only if we consider financial gain to be the primary measuring stick Again, we’re talking about a lawyer here, and not one of those “I want to make sure the disadvantaged get proper representation” kind of lawyers. I’m sure _she_ considers financial gain to be the primary measuring stick, as would anyone else she associates with. > [@Odesio](#): > > She did not enjoy embarrassing herself and losing so badly. This too though. You can’t tell me she has no ego and this kind of thing will roll off her. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/231 "2024-01-31T21:17:51Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > is Alina smart enough to not take an appeal that certainly will add a claim of _ineffective assistance of counsel_ to it’s long list of nothingberders? As far as I can tell, “ineffective assistance of counsel” is grounds for appeal only in criminal cases (and perhaps quasi criminal civil cases like child dependency actions or involuntary commitments). It isn’t going to be a think in the Carrol v. Trump civil appeal. Nonetheless, it’s often a good idea to bring in new appellate counsel after a trial loss. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/232 "2024-01-31T21:19:33Z")
‘Many people come to me and say with tears in there eyes “President Trump what the court did to you is criminal”!’ ~ DJT ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/233 "2024-01-31T21:23:45Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > > [@Odesio](#): > > > > She did not enjoy embarrassing herself and losing so badly. > > This too though. You can’t tell me she has no ego and this kind of thing will roll off her. Absolutely. If she had ambitions to rake in more millions from the Orange Shitstain from his future legal troubles and have a lucrative career as an “expert” legal analyst at Fox News, well, that ain’t gonna happen. ---
**Author:** ![Tride](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tride/32/13907_2.png) [@Tride](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tride)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/234 "2024-01-31T21:27:10Z")
[Legal Eagle](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASU_wpcB-1I) skewers Habba. Pretty entertaining. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/235 "2024-01-31T21:28:49Z")
Of all the things an aspiring young lawyer might want, “being the laughingstock of the internet” probably isn’t one of them. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2024, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/236 "2024-01-31T22:29:42Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > As far as I can tell, “ineffective assistance of counsel” is grounds for appeal only in criminal cases (and perhaps quasi criminal civil cases like child dependency actions or involuntary commitments). It isn’t going to be a think in the Carrol v. Trump civil appeal. Especially as this would simply be a claim of “I hired an idiot, so let me skate” ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2024, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/237 "2024-02-01T17:59:32Z")
> [@Odesio](#): > > When she spoke to the press following the latest Carroll verdict you could tell she was humiliated by the whole affair. She did not enjoy embarrassing herself and losing so badly. I’m sure this will pass. The situation is simply this: Trump was always going to lose, big, but Alina was going to get a big payday (before Caroll will) then lucrative TV spots. So I agree that you could see in her face that she was humiliated by the scale of the loss (as well as the various stompdowns in court). She just needs to lose that last sliver of humanity and she’s golden. ---
**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2024, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/238 "2024-02-01T19:25:38Z")
> [@griffin1977](#): > > And she just got fired: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/gO0jiJw7GaY/maxresdefault.jpg "Oh, THERE'S a big surprise! I think I’m gonna have a heart attack and die from that surprise.") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gO0jiJw7GaY) ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2024, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/239 "2024-02-01T20:12:17Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > And it’s clear she’s trying to “just ask questions” which seems risky when you’re in a legal setting. I thought the first. thing they teach you in law school is to not ask a question if you don’t know how it’s going to be answered. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2024, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/240 "2024-02-01T20:16:52Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > I thought the first. thing they teach you in law school is to not ask a question if you don’t know how it’s going to be answered. I am not a lawyer but I like to follow them on YouTube and such, and at least as far as a trial goes, that is absolutely true. In a sense, every question is rhetorical, and it’s done in a way to spin a narrative that you are using to influence the jury (or judge if this is a bench trial). _Procedural_ questions, on the other hand, I’d guess that lawyers have to ask them all the time without knowing the actual answers (because they’re actually trying to get information, not make a point). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965.md?page=13)