# The Alina Habba Pit thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [January 11, 2024, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965 "2024-01-11T17:05:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2024, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/241 "2024-02-01T20:18:18Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > Would the NY Post have purposely made this up and published it in hopes that she could use it in this manner? ISTM that would require both (A) motivation and, ummm, (B) _attenuated_ scruples. The NY Post _may_ have (B), but it’s hard to argue that they have (A). ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2024, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/242 "2024-02-01T20:26:22Z")
> [@griffin1977](#): > > And she just got fired: > [https://x.com/RyanShead/status/1752595703124374014?s=20](https://x.com/RyanShead/status/1752595703124374014?s=20) > > Yet again, the most deranged, detached-from-reality belief in Trumpland (including beliefs involving deepstate lizard people) continues to be the belief that Trump might actually pay you for something you did for him and not screw you over. “Clinton appointed” in the America-hating fuckstick’s “Truth” should be hyphenated, i.e., _Clinton-appointed_. Thus is his argument refuted as invalid. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2024, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/243 "2024-02-01T20:27:22Z")
“The Post is owned by _Rupert Murdoch_ . More accurately, it is owned by News Corp., but Murdoch and his family own a controlling interest” They make up s%@# all the time. They put reporters’ names on bylines that didn’t write the stories to try to legitimize the _news_. Bias is too kind a word. Directed propaganda and “the big lie” come to mind. The Post is a goto for others with agendas to say the “it has been reported that Obama eats children.” ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2024, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/244 "2024-02-01T20:31:25Z")
> [@smithsb](#): > > They make up s%@# all the time. It’s a conservative tabloid. That’s all anyone needs to know about its accuracy. It’s a propaganda vehicle. When people talk about right wing media bullshit, this is what people mean. It’s no different than Fox News or Breitbart or OAN. Also note that another thing it has in common with those other media outlets is that it has been sued for defamation in the past (and had to settle) multiple times. I mean in this century, not that long ago. The _Post_ is also the initial source of the Hunter Biden laptop story. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2024, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/245 "2024-02-01T20:37:16Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > > [@wguy123](#): > > > > “Any lawyer who takes a TRUMP CASE is either “CRAZY,” or a TRUE AMERICAN PATRIOT”, I think I’m starting to lean to the first of the two options. > > A perfectly logically accurate statement. Same as, saying broccoli is either a vegetable or a moon of Saturn. There’s Roberta Kaplan, who (arguably) took a [America-hating fuckstick] case. Since she won, it’s difficult to make the case that she’s CRAZY. If we grant the American-hating fuckstick’s either/or proposition, the unavoidable conclusion to be drawn is that she’s a TRUE AMERICAN PATRIOT. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2024, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/246 "2024-02-01T20:40:37Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > ‘Many people come to me and say with tears in there eyes “President Trump what the court did to you is criminal”!’ ~ DJT Real quote, or are you channeling **Smapti**? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2024, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/247 "2024-02-01T20:49:49Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > It’s a conservative tabloid. I’ll thank you to confine your use of the adjective “conservative” to things that are actually _conservative_. It’s a _radical_ right-wing tabloid. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2024, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/248 "2024-02-01T20:52:15Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > I’ll thank you to confine your use of the adjective “conservative” to things that are actually _conservative_. In the English languages, words have multiple meanings. In a general sense, “conservative” means using restraint and caution. In a political sense, it means the opposite. You can’t unilaterally dictate the meaning of a word, no matter how hard you try. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2024, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/249 "2024-02-01T20:55:26Z")
Don’t expect me to stop trying. I will never stop maintaining that the term _radical conservative_ (and any construction that implies that term) is gibberish. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2024, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/250 "2024-02-01T20:56:49Z")
I support you in spirit, but unfortunately you need to use the real vernacular if you want to effectively communicate. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2024, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/251 "2024-02-01T21:08:01Z")
I disagree. Perhaps I need to _comprehend_ the vernacular of others in order to effectively respond to their points, but I can nearly always effectively and concisely communicate my own points using unambiguous, if highfalutin’\* vocabulary. GIBBERISH, I SAY! \*excuse me, _highfaluting_ ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2024, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/252 "2024-02-01T21:57:32Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > I disagree. Of course you do, you’re “correcting” people with something both factually incorrect and invented by you. So I’m sure from your perspective it’s the right thing to do. In reality, it’s low grade trolling. It would be as if I decided that the word “there” should be spelled “ther” because the final “e” is unnecessary and it’s faster to omit it. So often if I find someone types the word “there” I correct them to “ther” because I think it’s better, even though it’s futile, unproductive, and frankly just annoying. Plus, it’s pushing disinformation on a site devoted to fighting disinformation. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2024, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/253 "2024-02-01T22:10:55Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > In reality, it’s low grade trolling. I agree with you, but it’s worth mentioning the occasional exception of _bona fide_ movements to “reclaim” words. Generally, however, these evolve virally for ideological reasons and are not driven by prescriptivist curmudgeons with their pet peeves. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2024, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/254 "2024-02-01T22:17:06Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Of course you do, you’re “correcting” people with something both factually incorrect and invented by you. I suppose I was imprecise enough to leave you an opening to snark at me. If my next sentence wasn’t enough to make clear _exactly_ what I was disagreement with, please permit me to rewrite it in a more run-on fashion: _I disagree that MY using the “real” vernacular is essential to my mission of effectively communicating._ I concede the possibility exists that I have misconstrued the meaning that you intended to communicate with the sentence that I quoted. If I have, I invite you to clarify. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2024, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/255 "2024-02-01T22:19:26Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > “Clinton appointed” in the America-hating fuckstick’s “Truth” should be hyphenated, i.e., _Clinton-appointed_. Thus is his argument refuted as invalid. Why is this the language usage straw that broke the camel’s back? Or am I missing some sort of subtlety? Like why is this being pointed out? It’s about as surprising as finding shit in an outhouse, and an orthographical/usage error has no bearing on his argument. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2024, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/256 "2024-02-01T22:22:09Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > Generally, however, this evolve virally for ideological reasons and are not driven by prescriptivist curmudgeons with their pet peeves. Exactly. Honestly, the best response is to link to a dictionary and then say shut up because you’re wrong. 😛 I try to be nicer than that though. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2024, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/257 "2024-02-01T22:24:18Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > > [@Atamasama](#): > > > > In reality, it’s low grade trolling. > > I agree with you, but it’s worth mentioning the occasional exception of _bona fide_ movements to “reclaim” words. This might be a good place to mention that my primary motivation in becoming a Doper is to be entertained; an ancillary one being to entertain (even if only myself). In other news: STAY OUTTA THIS, YOU! ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2024, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/258 "2024-02-01T22:28:24Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > > [@kaylasdad99](#): > > > > “Clinton appointed” in the America-hating fuckstick’s “Truth” should be hyphenated, i.e., _Clinton-appointed_. Thus is his argument refuted as invalid. > > Why is this the language usage straw that broke the camel’s back? Or am I missing some sort of subtlety? Like why is this being pointed out? It’s about as surprising as finding shit in an outhouse, and an orthographical/usage error has no bearing on his argument. It’s simply my adaptation of something that tickled my fancy: [(link to a Nicolas Cage meme)](https://people.com/thmb/CiRf9Sd9D0nK6x2Tba5TKDxtXqg=/1500x0/filters:no_upscale():max_bytes(150000):strip_icc():focal(205x0:207x2)/nickcage-a61eba28d93f4348a73d338885915bb7.jpeg) Rather like pouncing on a misspelled word. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2024, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/259 "2024-02-02T01:11:42Z")
[glances at title of thread] Ahem. Has there been any public reaction by Ms. Habba to her sidelining when it comes to the appeal? ---
**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2024, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/260 "2024-02-02T06:08:12Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > broccoli is either a vegetable or a moon of Saturn. I have friends in astrophysics\*. I think “broccoli” would be a great name. Turn the telescopes to Saturn!!! (\* They are radio-telescope people working with [MeerKAT](https://www.sarao.ac.za/gallery/meerkat/), so unlikely to be looking at Saturn any time soon) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965.md?page=12) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965.md?page=14)