# The Alina Habba Pit thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [January 11, 2024, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965 "2024-01-11T17:05:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/321 "2024-03-20T13:12:41Z")

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> It’s like a marriage for a green card in my mind.

Which in legal terms is considered fraud.

But I agree - this is off-topic.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/322 "2024-03-20T13:31:33Z")

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My apologies for responding to posts from January but I only just noticed this thread.

> [@Maserschmidt](#):
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> > [@Maserschmidt](#):
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> > > [@Atamasama](#):
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> > > Better attorneys expect to be paid.
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> > Well apparently, so do lesser attorneys.
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> > [@Newsweek](#):
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> > A _Newsweek_ analysis of FEC records found that between February 2022 and June 2023, Habba’s New Jersey law firm, Habba Madaio & Associates LLP, received $3,586,350 from Save America and Make America Great Again PAC, two Trump-aligned political action committees.
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> Of course, Trump himself isn’t paying a penny of this.

[Habba has been the legal spokesperson and general counsel for the MAGA PAC since July.](https://abovethelaw.com/2023/07/trump-lawyer-alina-habba-nopes-out-to-spend-more-time-with-his-pac-money/) Could she be paying _herself?_

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**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/323 "2024-03-20T13:44:01Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> Where does this idea come from that Habba is “pretty”? Admittedly, it can be difficult to disentangle perception of appearance from what you know of a person’s character, but to me she looks like a stunned camel. And is also dumb as a post. She and Trump deserve each other.

I don’t understand where the idea that Habba isn’t pretty comes from. I get that her character is that of a bad banana with a greasy black peel, but being the prettiest woman in the room probably isn’t an uncommon experience for Habba. She is conventionally attractive. If you knew nothing about her personally would you really think she looked like a stunted camel? Terrible people can be attractive. Sarah Palin, Ann Coulter, and Elizabeth Holmes are all attractive women but they’re terrible people. It happens.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/324 "2024-03-20T13:45:50Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> A marriage is supposed to be a partnership of equals. What you’re talking about is a hooker on retainer.

Nicely put! That’s exactly what the Orange Peril purchased.

> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> Disagree. It’s like a marriage for a green card in my mind.

As already stated, that’s explicitly illegal, not to mention immoral. If discovered, the perp attempting this is going to get their ass kicked right out of the country back to where he/she came from, never to return.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/325 "2024-03-20T15:51:16Z")

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I see Alina, Melania, Lindsey Graham and dozens of other as nothing more than gold diggers.

I actually liked Lindsey before he started kissing Trumps ass. He should just wear a sign - “I’m a hypocrite”

I _almost_ feel sorry for Melania. She may have been somewhat entrapped. She now has a child to protect. Epstein introduced her to Trump.

Trying to get back on track … (it’s hard with so much corruption raining down)

As to Alina Habba. Well there is always someone that graduates last in their class. Or is she shrewd? Make millions and fade into the sunset. Girl, the check from Donnie is gonna bounce.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/326 "2024-03-20T16:13:45Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> Well there is always someone that graduates last in their class.

You know what they call the person that graduates last in their law class?

A lawyer.

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**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/327 "2024-03-20T16:17:38Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> It also includes this fine picture which I call “when appearance matches character”. If the pose looks oddly Trumpian, it’s because Trump is often caught in poses just like that, thus proving that if you’re a piece of shit, you often end up looking like one.

I can’t believe I’m going to defend Alina Habba, of all pieces of shit lawyers, but this is actually a little unfair. Everyone looks derpy if you freeze-frame on them when they’re talking. Director Alexander Payne used this technique in the opening of the film Election when showing how much [Matthew Broderick’s character dislikes Reese Witherspoon’s ‘Tracy Flick’](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8lU0xfQ-V4). Relatively few people have accused Witherspoon of being unattractive.

Habba is a conventionally attractive woman that just happens to be a shit lawyer with questionable morals.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/328 "2024-03-20T16:42:22Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> I have to admit that I’m not exactly comfortable with the heavy focus on her looks here, despite her own statements on them. Her problem isn’t how she looks, but that she’s more morally bankrupt and rather incompetent. There’s a danger this is straying into generic misogyny.

Still haven’t changed my view on this.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/329 "2024-03-20T16:54:29Z")

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> [@Tamerlane](#):
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> Habba is a conventionally attractive woman that just happens to be a shit lawyer with questionable morals.

Agree totally. So is Melania. But as they say, “Beauty is only skin deep”

If you are able to turn the glossy page of the magazine cover over, and look at who they are, the beauty fades (I’m being gentle).

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/330 "2024-03-20T17:37:01Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> She reminds me of a particular girl I knew in high school. Superficially attractive, if you were seeing a photo of her or just met her for the first time she’s appealing. Until you get to know her at all, and suddenly that all goes away.

Cue up Northern Pikes song: “She Ain’t Pretty, She Just Looks That Way.”

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/331 "2024-03-20T17:50:04Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> You know what they call the person that graduates last in their law class?
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> A lawyer.

No, it’s “Your Honor.”

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/332 "2024-03-20T17:59:09Z")

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I don’t know who is Trump’s lawyer for his [latest bullshit lawsuit](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-suing-abc-news-george-stephanopoulos-defamation/) against ABC news and George Stephanopolis, but it would be fun if it was Habba.

I guess Trump and Habba did not learn their lesson after being [slapped with a $1 million fine](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jan/20/trump-and-lawyer-ordered-to-pay-1m-for-bringing-frivolous-lawsuit-against-hillary-clinton#:~:text=The%20lawsuit%2C%20originally%20filed%20by,order%20to%20damage%20him%20politically.) for a frivolous lawsuit against Hilary Clinton.

> In a scathing ruling, US district court judge Donald Middlebrooks castigated Trump and his lead attorney, Alina Habba, for abusing the legal system by advancing a lawsuit that furthered his political grievances over the 2017 Russia investigation using arguments replete with misinformation and errors.
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> “We are confronted with a lawsuit that should never have been filed, which was completely frivolous, both factually and legally, and which was brought in bad faith for an improper purpose,” Middlebrooks wrote in the 46-page order imposing sanctions of $937,989.39 against Trump and Habba.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/333 "2024-03-20T18:07:27Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> I don’t know who is Trump’s lawyer for his [latest bullshit lawsuit](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-suing-abc-news-george-stephanopoulos-defamation/) against ABC news and George Stephanopolis, but it would be fun if it was Habba.

It does look like what I call a “fingernail” lawsuit-one where someone has found the narrowest sliver to use legally. IANAL, so there may be another, better, term.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/334 "2024-03-20T18:17:27Z")

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> IANAL, so there may be another, better, term.

Here is the term I would use:

> **[Vexatious litigation](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vexatious_litigation)**
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> Vexatious litigation is legal action which is brought solely to harass or subdue an adversary. It may take the form of a primary frivolous lawsuit or may be the repetitive, burdensome, and unwarranted filing of meritless motions in a matter which is otherwise a meritorious cause of action. Filing vexatious litigation is considered an abuse of the judicial process and may result in sanctions against the offender.
> A single action, even a frivolous one, is usually not enough to raise a litigant to...

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**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/335 "2024-03-20T18:30:29Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> Yes, Melania is pretty.

The first time I saw her they were at some event where cameras were flashing all over. Every time she would turn to look at the camera she would make this weird face. It looked like she was really angry. She’d squint her eyes and make pouty lips. It was so weird how fast she’d go from neutral or smiling to that face.

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**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/336 "2024-03-20T18:39:37Z")

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I guess she is conventionally pretty. However, sometimes I think she looks like a fish. It’s the big lips thing. I’ve seen pics of her pretty regularly, that make her look like a fish out of water. Shallow I know, but it just jumps into my brain.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/337 "2024-03-20T18:44:43Z")

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> [@Sylvanz](#):
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> She’d squint her eyes and make pouty lips.

So, Blue Steel?

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**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/338 "2024-03-20T18:52:00Z")

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I guess I’m glad no one on Trump’s team can pull off Magnum.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/339 "2024-03-20T18:58:54Z")

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I’ve been reading [Melania’s wiki page](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melania_Trump) and if it’s all true, it’s pretty interesting how much Donald depends on her.

Getting back to Habba, I just dug up this weird old story about Trump, Habba, and a possibly photoshopped picture. So much ego in that man.

> **[Donald Trump photo with Alina Habba raises eyebrows](https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-alina-habba-siggy-flicker-mar-lago-new-year-photo-1857024)**
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> The image in question was shared by "Real Housewives of New Jersey" star Siggy Flicker, while the original photo was decidedly different.

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2024, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/340 "2024-03-20T19:24:33Z")

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That photo could be used as a ‘jump scare’ in a horror film.

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