# The Alina Habba Pit thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [January 11, 2024, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965 "2024-01-11T17:05:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2024, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/61 "2024-01-17T19:58:14Z")

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“I’m stuck with bad lawyers because I alienated all the good lawyers” sounds like the “I’m an orphan” defense for the guy who murdered his parents.

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**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2024, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/62 "2024-01-17T20:43:13Z")

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And they show up for court dressed like this

[![](https://thefilmspoint.com/cdn/shop/products/bcs-university-of-american-samoa-law-school-sweatshirt-121297.jpg?v=1699427616&width=700) ](https://thefilmspoint.com/cdn/shop/products/bcs-university-of-american-samoa-law-school-sweatshirt-121297.jpg?v=1699427616&width=700)

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2024, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/63 "2024-01-17T20:45:13Z")

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Hey, Saul Goodman may not have been a _good_ lawyer, but he was a **good** lawyer!

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2024, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/64 "2024-01-17T21:13:57Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> I’m wondering if Trump’s long game will be to claim ineffective representation to get any conviction thrown out.

Well, first of all, it wouldn’t help here because it’s a civil case. Second, that’s almost an impossible standard to meet, even if you have a court appointed lawyer who falls asleep during trial. I’ve never seen it successful (or even tried) when a defendant hires his own counsel. If that’s his plan it’s a very stupid one.

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2024, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/65 "2024-01-17T21:22:29Z")

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The resumption/renewal/repeated Carroll defamation trial is live today. The judge is not having with Habba. Trump is the usual asshole.

" Judge Lewis Kaplan called for a trial recess when Habba improperly began reading from one of those harassing messages before entering it into evidence.

After the jury left the courtroom for the break, Kaplan told Habba, “You should refresh your memory about how it is you get a document into evidence.”

_It’s not the first time Kaplan has admonished Habba today._\* Earlier, he told her that in his courtroom and any other federal courtroom she needed to stand while speaking. And after Kaplan denied her earlier motion to not hold the trial on Thursday and the judge told her to sit down, Habba said, “I don’t like to be spoken to that way.”

From the live CNN coverage.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2024, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/66 "2024-01-17T22:08:59Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> Well, first of all, it wouldn’t help here because it’s a civil case. Second, that’s almost an impossible standard to meet, even if you have a court appointed lawyer who falls asleep during trial. I’ve never seen it successful (or even tried) when a defendant hires his own counsel. If that’s his plan it’s a very stupid one.

Good information. But I’m pretty sure he’s that stupid. Sly, yes. Devious, yes. Smart, no.

> [@smithsb](#):
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> From the live CNN coverage.

Better than any sitcom.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2024, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/67 "2024-01-17T23:22:47Z")

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Okay, I laughed! I think we have a winner! 😆

I also got a chuckle listening to some woman simply destroy her on the news today.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/68 "2024-01-18T01:54:16Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> I’ve never seen it successful (or even tried) when a defendant hires his own counsel. If that’s his plan it’s a very stupid one.

But what if you combine it with an objection that “T.0he judge was biased against me because I set a lynch mob after his clerk?” Are we getting closer?

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/69 "2024-01-18T04:52:03Z")

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It’s mind-boggling to me that when the judge corrects her, all she keeps saying is “sure“.

> <https://twitter.com/gtconway3d/status/1747789377630032324?s=61&t=7zPHcBzjb1UW-wh6DrDc3g>

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/70 "2024-01-18T05:14:47Z")

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I always think hommina hommina, like a flustered Ralph Kramden.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/71 "2024-01-18T05:31:46Z")

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> [@Maserschmidt](#):
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> It’s mind-boggling to me that when the judge corrects her, all she keeps saying is “sure“.

Mind-boggling? No. It’s really keeping me on the edge of my seat. I’m hoping that this happens very soon: the judge makes a decision she doesn’t like, then she rolls her eyes and says “Whatever”.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/72 "2024-01-18T13:55:20Z")

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The whole thing about delaying the proceedings so that he can attend his MILs (Melaniamom’s) funeral (the Judge nixed this idea) …

If you’re Trump, and – assuming, [_ **arguendo** _](https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/arguendo), that you are _not_ an idiot …

Would you let Alina Habba represent you without adult supervision … for even a single day?

Maybe that isn’t a petard by which his crapulence wishes to be hoisted.

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**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/73 "2024-01-18T13:59:03Z")

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> [@DavidNRockies](#):
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> Would you let Alina Habba represent you without adult supervision

Not sure what this has to do with Trump attending?

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/74 "2024-01-18T14:09:49Z")

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If he attends his Mother-In-Law’s funeral, that leaves Alina Habba representing him … _in his absence._ That’s the inmate running the asylum.

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**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/75 "2024-01-18T14:13:14Z")

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Yeah. Just not sure what about that situation would change if Trump was there. Would he explain to Habba how to enter documents into evidence?

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/76 "2024-01-18T14:24:33Z")

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Before my time. I don’t know if I’ve ever seen a full episode.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/77 "2024-01-18T14:24:33Z")

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Well, he _is_ a very stable genius, as we all know.

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/78 "2024-01-18T14:34:13Z")

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I’m sure Mel would be very upset if ol’ Stinky missed her mom’s funeral. I’d bet trump chafed at the prospect of Mel dragging her whole family of furriners along with her when they got married.

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/79 "2024-01-18T14:55:34Z")

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It was about a bus driver who controlled his wife through the threat of domestic violence, but in a funny way.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2024, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-alina-habba-pit-thread/995965/80 "2024-01-18T15:39:04Z")

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> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#):
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> I always think hommina hommina, like a flustered Ralph Kramden.

So do I, but I could have sworn he sometimes also went “habba habba habba”. 😃

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/xGprRpuXFj0/maxresdefault.jpg "Homina") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGprRpuXFj0)

> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#):
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> It was about a bus driver who controlled his wife through the threat of domestic violence, but in a funny way.

Nor really. The signature expression “Pow! Zoom! To the moon, Alice!” was obviously said in jest, and though Ralph and Alice had their humourous differences, the premise of the sitcom is that they had a very loving relationship. Even I am not nearly old enough to remember the original broadcasts, but it was widely syndicated and is still available on DVD.

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