# The Amazing Race 11/11/07 - "I've Become the Archie Bunker of the Home" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 11, 2007, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-11-07-ive-become-the-archie-bunker-of-the-home/426042 "2007-11-11T19:14:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2007, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-11-07-ive-become-the-archie-bunker-of-the-home/426042/61 "2007-11-12T20:34:07Z")
[QUOTE=Barbarian] Had to bail out halfway tonight (it’s on tape, no worries) but how screwed up do you have to be to start screaming at another team because of how they treat a check-in person. And then STILL not make the flight? Something wrong there. [/QUOTE] Exactly! WTF were they doing in that hotel lobby? Not getting a flight to Amsterdam appartently. ---
**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2007, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-11-07-ive-become-the-archie-bunker-of-the-home/426042/62 "2007-11-12T21:52:37Z")
[QUOTE=Mama Tiger] Although the over-bleached, over-baked, over-plucked, over-Botoxed blondes can go any time. Even if they did tolerably well this leg, they just annoy the crap out of me. “I haven’t had a single facial or a manicure!” Poor thing, suffering for _two whole days_ without being pampered! :rolleyes: [/QUOTE] See, I’m starting to suspect that they’re purposely “playing a role.” I mean, who gets facials so often that being without one for a couple of days is a hardship? They seemed to be pretty good sports about the whole falling in the muddy ditch thing, and they totally rocked the hoisting challenge. We haven’t heard them be nasty to anyone, have we? So maybe the “pampered L.A. blonde” thing is just their hook. Or maybe they really are spoiled idiots. I’m looking forward to finding out. [QUOTE=lorene] [Carissa’s] surprise when she finds out that they are male/female is hilarious. [/QUOTE] Oy! I was watching it with my 5 year old…he thought Kent was a girl. I patiently explained that men sometimes wore makeup etc., and he responded, “no, it’s a girl.” So I explained it again in a different way. He said, “No, Mommy. I’m sure it’s a girl!” So I explained again, to no avail. Then I gave up. And a note to Jennifer (of Nathan and Jennifer fame): Please stop calling other people names. It’s not nice. ---
**Author:** ![Eureka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/74df32/32.png) [@Eureka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eureka)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2007, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-11-07-ive-become-the-archie-bunker-of-the-home/426042/63 "2007-11-12T22:01:16Z")
I have to admit, I was shocked when I heard Kynt speak the first time. I had assumed them to be a pair of lesbian goth chicks. Alternate assumption, not lesbian, but still goth chicks. Part of this may have to do with me not paying enough attention, but most of it has to do with the whole wearing pink thing, when I saw them in the promos. Last night, I heard a voice-over or somebody refer to them as “Dating Gods”. ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2007, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-11-07-ive-become-the-archie-bunker-of-the-home/426042/64 "2007-11-12T22:03:01Z")
[QUOTE=jayjay] It’s Episcopal-Clergy-Speak. Almost all of the ones I’ve known (mostly university chaplains/student activity advisors) have had that psychotheological way of speaking. I’m probably talking out my prodigious ass, but I’m pretty sure I’d have pegged them as Episcopal clergy even if it hadn’t been generally announced. [/QUOTE] [Article on CNN.com about the ousted couple](http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/TV/11/12/tv.amazingrace.ap/index.html). And you’re right that they’re Episcopal: > [@](#): > > Throughout the race, Lewis, an Episcopal priest, says the couple frequently prayed in private, away from the reality TV cameras. The pair asked permission from their church to participate in the around-the-world race. ---
**Author:** ![Velma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/85e7bf/32.png) [@Velma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velma)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2007, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-11-07-ive-become-the-archie-bunker-of-the-home/426042/65 "2007-11-12T22:04:01Z")
I noticed the lack of young guy teams right away. I think they are stacking the odds here that an all-girl team will win it. There are more girl friend teams than usual. The question is, why can’t they find a girl team that actually kicks ass and does not start out their interviews by saying “we plan to get by on our looks and flirt our way to the top.” That pisses me off. ( at least 2 of the teams had that sentiment.) I wonder if the goth team is going to be able to maintain their look all the way through the race. It looks kind of high-maintenance. I call them team Azrael after the goth sketch on SNL. I also did a WTF when the asian dad went off on the other team’s grandson. Why does he care what the other guy was doing? You could tell the daughter was supremely embarassed. That guy is seriously a jerk. “You let me down” “You need to lose some weight” “I could have vaulted better than that” Just. Shut. Up. We also learned this episode that women are much better at tying knots. I think all the “haul it” teams ended up switching so that the female could tie and haul the items. ---
**Author:** ![GingerOfTheNorth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cdc98d/32.png) [@GingerOfTheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GingerOfTheNorth)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2007, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-11-07-ive-become-the-archie-bunker-of-the-home/426042/66 "2007-11-12T22:09:35Z")
I loved Holland. [QUOTE=Green Bean] Oy! I was watching it with my 5 year old…he thought Kent was a girl. [/QUOTE] My brain is broken. He can’t be five. Signed, Mother of a THREE year old ---
**Author:** ![GaryM](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garym/32/241_2.png) [@GaryM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GaryM)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2007, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-11-07-ive-become-the-archie-bunker-of-the-home/426042/67 "2007-11-12T22:21:55Z")
How about an all girl AR with teams consisting of members of the armed forces or law enforcement? Marines, Air Force, Navy, Army , Coast Guard, FBI and whoever else! Throw in a few teams from State Police or Sheriff’s Departments too. 😃 They should all be pretty fit and ready to go. ---
**Author:** ![Avarie537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/48db29/32.png) [@Avarie537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Avarie537)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2007, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-11-07-ive-become-the-archie-bunker-of-the-home/426042/68 "2007-11-12T22:35:49Z")
[QUOTE=zut] _Lorena & Jason_ (up from “Rapido!”) - A win this week gives them the best average placement of all the teams. Really impressive performance by Jason on both the Detour and Roadblock… which, of course, leads to the question of what _Lorena_ is bringing to the team. She’s the only person who hasn’t done a Detour yet, and while I wouldn’t be surprised at all to see that she’s fully competent, she’s still a question mark. [/QUOTE] I don’t think so … I’m pretty sure she’s the one who was featured in the promos cursing a lactating camel on her knees in the dirt, crying, wailing, etc. while Jason stood by. From [cbs.com](http://cbs.com) Sunday, November 18, 8pm et/pt PLEASE LORD, GIVE ME MILK! The severe pain of a hernia attacks one Racer at the worst time as one of the older men on the Race falls under the spell of two young, feisty, hip-shaking female Racers. Struggling at a Roadblock, one panicking Racer drops to her knees in tears while her Teammate helplessly looks on. ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2007, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-11-07-ive-become-the-archie-bunker-of-the-home/426042/69 "2007-11-12T22:49:13Z")
I’ve asked the Mods to box the spoilers for the unaired leg that you posted, in hopes that someone else reading the thread won’t end up as pissed off about it as I am. In future, either use spoiler tags or don’t post. ---
**Author:** ![Wolfian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/7ea924/32.png) [@Wolfian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolfian)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2007, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-11-07-ive-become-the-archie-bunker-of-the-home/426042/70 "2007-11-12T23:05:19Z")
[QUOTE=Otto] I’ve asked the Mods to box the spoilers for the unaired leg that you posted, in hopes that someone else reading the thread won’t end up as pissed off about it as I am. In future, either use spoiler tags or don’t post. [/QUOTE] Couldn’t you mention that in the OP? I know that’s the rule in these types of threads, but someone just happening upon the thread might not know that. ---
**Author:** ![psychobunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/54ee81/32.png) [@psychobunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychobunny)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2007, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-11-07-ive-become-the-archie-bunker-of-the-home/426042/71 "2007-11-13T00:53:24Z")
OK-while I loved the detour in Amsterdam, I think they missed an excellent opportunity to have the racers perform “tasks” much more common to this city. Thus, for the next visit, I suggest the following: **Smoke it or Poke it** : In **Smoke it** , you must make your way to a certain bar, then between the two racers, consume a set amount of hashish. You must then make your way to the pit stop. While experienced teams could finish the first part quickly, finding the pit stop may be difficult without stopping for munchies. In **Poke it** , you will be given a picture of a girl from Amsterdam’s red light district. You must locate this girl, and successfully copulate with her to obtain your clue. Teams may lose time waiting, as the girl may be already engaged with a prior customer. In addition, all female teams may find this option physically challenging. ---
**Author:** ![Sapo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Sapo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sapo)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2007, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-11-07-ive-become-the-archie-bunker-of-the-home/426042/72 "2007-11-13T01:47:21Z")
[QUOTE=Eureka] I have to admit, I was shocked when I heard Kynt speak the first time. I had assumed them to be a pair of lesbian goth chicks. Alternate assumption, not lesbian, but still goth chicks. Part of this may have to do with me not paying enough attention, but most of it has to do with the whole wearing pink thing, when I saw them in the promos. Last night, I heard a voice-over or somebody refer to them as “Dating Gods”. [/QUOTE] 😃 Goths And I had forgotten the macrame part. Very funny. Also very funny the face she made when she admitted to it in front of the camera. ---
**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2007, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-11-07-ive-become-the-archie-bunker-of-the-home/426042/73 "2007-11-13T02:23:15Z")
Is it considered a spoiler when it’s taken directly from promotional information from the network’s website? The scene described in Averie’s post was in the “in next week’s episode” teaser at the end of this week’s episode. How can that be considered a spoiler? ---
**Author:** ![KGS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/90ced4/32.png) [@KGS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KGS)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2007, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-11-07-ive-become-the-archie-bunker-of-the-home/426042/74 "2007-11-13T02:39:12Z")
[QUOTE=Sarahfeena] Is it considered a spoiler when it’s taken directly from promotional information from the network’s website? The scene described in Averie’s post was in the “in next week’s episode” teaser at the end of this week’s episode. How can that be considered a spoiler? [/QUOTE] Some people don’t want to know anything about next week’s episode before it happens. That’s why it’s common courtesy to spoilerbox any information that hasn’t happened yet, whether it’s part of a publicly aired promo or not. ---
**Author:** ![Wolfian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/7ea924/32.png) [@Wolfian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolfian)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2007, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-11-07-ive-become-the-archie-bunker-of-the-home/426042/75 "2007-11-13T02:39:25Z")
[QUOTE=Sarahfeena] Is it considered a spoiler when it’s taken directly from promotional information from the network’s website? The scene described in Averie’s post was in the “in next week’s episode” teaser at the end of this week’s episode. How can that be considered a spoiler? [/QUOTE] A touchy subject. Some people feel that the ad monkeys give too much away in the teasers, so they request that every and anything not pertaining to events not shown in the preceeding episode and the episodes before it be spoiler boxed. That’s standard opperating procedure in most Cafe Society threads. You don’t even want to open the time zone can of worms. ---
**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2007, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-11-07-ive-become-the-archie-bunker-of-the-home/426042/76 "2007-11-13T02:44:29Z")
Thanks, Wolfian! That’s a different policy than what I’m used to on other message boards, so good to know. ---
**Author:** ![lorene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/65b543/32.png) [@lorene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lorene)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2007, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-11-07-ive-become-the-archie-bunker-of-the-home/426042/77 "2007-11-13T11:51:20Z")
[QUOTE=Wolfian] Some people feel that the ad monkeys give too much away in the teasers [/QUOTE] On this topic alone—my husband noticed the other night that, close to the end of the episode, they showed a promo for something that happens on a different leg (based on clothing and activity) and you could clearly identify at least one team. Therefore, we could safely assume that that team would be around for at least one more week. We were pretty disappointed. ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2007, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-11-07-ive-become-the-archie-bunker-of-the-home/426042/78 "2007-11-13T12:34:14Z")
[QUOTE=lorene] He’s in sales, too. What kind of sales strategy does he have—badgering people until they buy things? I can see placing an order just to get him the fuck away from me. [/QUOTE] Now that you mention it, what does Ronald _sell_? (_quickly looks at the [CBS.com](http://CBS.com) website_) OMG, he’s a “Vice President of sales for a paper packaging company.” _Dude works for Dunder-Mifflin_. No freaking _wonder_. I’d order something to get rid of him, too. ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2007, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-11-07-ive-become-the-archie-bunker-of-the-home/426042/79 "2007-11-13T12:43:18Z")
Darn, outside the edit window. Anyway … I just read the “Carissa Explains It All” columns from the last two episodes, and I just wanted to mention: _someone_ is almost a teenager now, no? It almost doesn’t sound like her any more. ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2007, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-11-07-ive-become-the-archie-bunker-of-the-home/426042/80 "2007-11-13T13:31:33Z")
[QUOTE=rockle] OMG, he’s a “Vice President of sales for a paper packaging company.” [/QUOTE] Ronald is AMBIGUOUSLY EVIL DAD!\* \*That’s a Heroes reference, for the non-Heroes fans [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-11-07-ive-become-the-archie-bunker-of-the-home/426042.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-11-07-ive-become-the-archie-bunker-of-the-home/426042.md?page=5)