# The Amazing Race 11/11/07 - "I've Become the Archie Bunker of the Home" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 11, 2007, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-11-07-ive-become-the-archie-bunker-of-the-home/426042 "2007-11-11T19:14:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2007, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-11-07-ive-become-the-archie-bunker-of-the-home/426042/81 "2007-11-13T14:23:04Z")
[QUOTE=Otto] Ronald is AMBIGUOUSLY EVIL DAD!\* \*That’s a Heroes reference, for the non-Heroes fans [/QUOTE] SNORT! That was hilarious! ---
**Author:** ![Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19adc/32.png) [@Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2007, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-11-07-ive-become-the-archie-bunker-of-the-home/426042/82 "2007-11-13T14:46:47Z")
from Carissa’s blog > [@](#): > > Shana did a great job at the roadblock, and even ended up with the mud facial she was looking for. After watching the whole episode I’m hoping next week turns into Throw Daddy from the Train. Ronald is abrasive… ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2007, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-11-07-ive-become-the-archie-bunker-of-the-home/426042/83 "2007-11-13T16:33:06Z")
Have to give a shout out to the cameraman for the great shot of Phil as Rachel and TK biked right past him. ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2007, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-11-07-ive-become-the-archie-bunker-of-the-home/426042/84 "2007-11-14T03:24:40Z")
As a race, this is getting very entertaining. In leg 1, we had an animal-handling task. In leg 2, we have bog-vaulting, with many people getting down and dirty. And the previews show leg 3 will have our favorite animals, camels! Because any animal-handling task is more fun when it involves camels. As noted on the previous page, one of the most vital guidelines for running The Race is to never take the random-search task if you don’t have to. Next week is almost begging to trigger another guideline, never take the animal-handling task if you don’t have to. Although my quick guess is that the Roadblock is to milk a camel, and a Detour option is to lead four camels to a “camel merchant” (an underpaid local). ---
**Author:** ![aktep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f0a364/32.png) [@aktep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aktep)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2007, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-11-07-ive-become-the-archie-bunker-of-the-home/426042/85 "2007-11-14T05:25:09Z")
[QUOTE=psychobunny] **Smoke it or Poke it** : [/QUOTE] I suggested the same thing! ---
**Author:** ![Atrael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Atrael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atrael)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2007, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-11-07-ive-become-the-archie-bunker-of-the-home/426042/86 "2007-11-14T16:31:59Z")
I had to catch up on two episodes before I could join in, but I’m all current now. I don’t think much more needs to be said about Ronald, does it? Although he also struck me as the type that is quick to “let her figure it out” because that way he never has to take the blame for anything. Even when they got to the bike thing, it was her fault for being too heavy, not his for not being able to do the task. Although I’m sure nobody really wants to go back and watch that scene again, but did NNG actually have a larger pair of briefs on at the end of the task? When he first stripped down he looked like he was in some sort of male thong, then right at the end he was in something more like boxer/briefs. **Otto** to keep everyone cool, maybe you can find that standard reality show disclaimer that is on a bunch of these threads and post it with the OP? You know…the one that sort of goes over the accepted rules. I’ll see if I can find it and maybe post it here so someone can just copy and paste it for next week. ---
**Author:** ![Atrael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Atrael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atrael)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2007, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-11-07-ive-become-the-archie-bunker-of-the-home/426042/87 "2007-11-14T16:46:43Z")
Ahh…it’s actually from the Lost threads. Thread rules: > [@](#): > > Information about all episodes aired to this point – including the current week – will be unboxed. > Information about this week’s episode’s “next week” teasers will be boxed. > Information about future episodes taken from spoiler sites/inside sources, including Podcasts, will be boxed. This includes links to promo photos and screencaps from future episodes. > Speculation based on events in episodes aired up to this point will be unboxed. > Speculation based on spoilers for upcoming episodes will be boxed. > > Please remember, links inside spoiler boxes are readable even to those who don’t highlight. Although I changed it a little to reflect the general aversion to preview scenes here. Thanks to **John Mace** for the template. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2007, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-11-07-ive-become-the-archie-bunker-of-the-home/426042/88 "2007-11-14T16:59:58Z")
[QUOTE=Atrael] Although I changed it a little to reflect the general aversion to preview scenes here. [/QUOTE] Is there a general aversion to preview scenes in Amazing Race threads? ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_One](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/45deac/32.png) [@Evil\_One](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_One)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2007, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-11-07-ive-become-the-archie-bunker-of-the-home/426042/89 "2007-11-14T17:41:11Z")
[QUOTE=Gangster Octopus] Have to give a shout out to the cameraman for the great shot of Phil as Rachel and TK biked right past him. [/QUOTE] You would think they would notice a guy with a camera standing by the side of the road with it pointed toward the other side. ---
**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2007, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-11-07-ive-become-the-archie-bunker-of-the-home/426042/90 "2007-11-14T18:04:32Z")
[QUOTE=jsgoddess] Is there a general aversion to preview scenes in Amazing Race threads? [/QUOTE] Apparently so. Earlier in the thread, **Otto** described himself as “pissed” and requested spoiler boxes because someone described a scene from the previews of next week’s episode. ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2007, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-11-07-ive-become-the-archie-bunker-of-the-home/426042/91 "2007-11-14T18:11:26Z")
One particular preview has been mentioned with great anticipation over and over again in this thread, without **Otto** or anyone else becoming upset. I fail to see what was so different about that one post. ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2007, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-11-07-ive-become-the-archie-bunker-of-the-home/426042/92 "2007-11-14T18:12:41Z")
[QUOTE=Sarahfeena] Apparently so. Earlier in the thread, **Otto** described himself as “pissed” and requested spoiler boxes because someone described a scene from the previews of next week’s episode. [/QUOTE] The spoilers in question were noted as coming from [cbs.com](http://cbs.com) and not from the previews for next week. The same level of detail may have been in the previews, I don’t know as I didn’t happen to see them. I have no quarrel with information that’s been broadcast but if it comes from somewhere other than the broadcast it should be spoilered. ---
**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2007, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-11-07-ive-become-the-archie-bunker-of-the-home/426042/93 "2007-11-14T18:17:59Z")
[QUOTE=Otto] The spoilers in question were noted as coming from [cbs.com](http://cbs.com) and not from the previews for next week. The same level of detail may have been in the previews, I don’t know as I didn’t happen to see them. I have no quarrel with information that’s been broadcast but if it comes from somewhere other than the broadcast it should be spoilered. [/QUOTE] It seems a little like splitting hairs to me if it’s promotional material from the website vs. the previews after the show, but I have noted that it’s the policy here. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2007, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-11-07-ive-become-the-archie-bunker-of-the-home/426042/94 "2007-11-14T18:40:59Z")
[QUOTE=Otto] I have no quarrel with information that’s been broadcast but if it comes from somewhere other than the broadcast it should be spoilered. [/QUOTE] That’s what I thought. I didn’t remember anyone ever complaining about previews, and you didn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2007, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-11-07-ive-become-the-archie-bunker-of-the-home/426042/95 "2007-11-14T18:54:28Z")
[QUOTE=jsgoddess] That’s what I thought. I didn’t remember anyone ever complaining about previews, and you didn’t. [/QUOTE] Obviously, I misunderstood. I didn’t realize there was a difference. ---
**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2007, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-11-07-ive-become-the-archie-bunker-of-the-home/426042/96 "2007-11-14T19:16:39Z")
Missed the edit window. The reason I found it confusing is that\*\* Otto\*\* referred to **Averie537’s** post as containing “spoilers,” but he was using the word to mean something I’ve never understood it to mean before, in reference to promotional information from the network. ---
**Author:** ![Atrael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Atrael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atrael)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2007, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-11-07-ive-become-the-archie-bunker-of-the-home/426042/97 "2007-11-14T19:35:25Z")
Hey…_shrug_…it’s no skin off my back. Just trying to give a general guideline that could be posted at the start of each thread so that we’re all on the same page. Whatever you guys wanna do. ---
**Author:** ![Avarie537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/48db29/32.png) [@Avarie537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Avarie537)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2007, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-11-07-ive-become-the-archie-bunker-of-the-home/426042/98 "2007-11-14T19:37:07Z")
[QUOTE=Otto] The spoilers in question were noted as coming from [cbs.com](http://cbs.com) and not from the previews for next week. The same level of detail may have been in the previews, I don’t know as I didn’t happen to see them. I have no quarrel with information that’s been broadcast but if it comes from somewhere other than the broadcast it should be spoilered. [/QUOTE] Well, if you look my original post, I mention that it was something I thought I saw on the promo/preview/teaser for Next Week’s Episode (therefore broadcast), and I went to the website to confirm what I thought I had seen. So how does that hair get split? ---
**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2007, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-11-07-ive-become-the-archie-bunker-of-the-home/426042/99 "2007-11-14T19:48:46Z")
[QUOTE=Atrael] Hey.._shrug_…it’s no skin off my back. Just trying to give a general guideline that could be posted at the start of each thread so that we’re all on the same page. Whatever you guys wanna do. [/QUOTE] I agree, I’m not trying to start a fight by any means. Whatever the policy is, I’ll abide by it happily. I just thought it was a little extreme of **Otto** to be pissed about **Averie’s** post when 1) the policy wasn’t posted in the thread, and 2) he’s using a definition of “spoiler” that is not typical. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-amazing-race-11-11-07-ive-become-the-archie-bunker-of-the-home/426042.md?page=4)